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[ThePowerCosmic]

I'd prefer there not be a Dr Strange movie but that's just me.

That is just you.

 

[Chewy]

I don't really care for Dr Strange either. I certainly don't care for the individuals currently involved with his movie

Marvel needs to quit screwing around and get on with Black Panther

 

[Mysteryman]

again, i didnt say it wasn't magic. But that there could be a mystical science behind all of it. The Energy from the worlds tree, the heart of the star itself being full of "magical" energy that allows odin to cast a "spell" on it, etc.. the golden apples of asgard could also grant magical abilities. etc...

i'm just saying that the words can be interchangeable.

On earth when we don't understand something, we call it magic (until we figure out how to create it ourselves), and I just think what thor was saying is that on asgard, they do the same. What's magic to them, might not be on another planet.

mystical science.
That is what I thought Thor meant .

 

[Kirmit]

To me magic only remains magic unless it can be explained scientifically.

 

[Splat]

That is just you.

Haha I know I'm in the minority, the character has just never been a favorite of mine. Of course I was never a huge IM fan and RDJ changed that. If the right actor is cast it could change my mind.

 

[sabetoonth]

I always saw that line(s) to mean in Asgard, they dont distinguish between the two much if any

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Marvel needs to quit screwing around and get on with Black Panther

Seriously, they need to get on the ball with that movie!

 

[craigdbfan]

I have a feeling Iron Fist will be the one getting a movie before any of the guys we're talking about right now.

 

[Scarlettess]

I odn't know if this has been posted, apologies if it has, I havn't seen it and I just noticed this on Play.

and these,

Edit: sorry forgot to put the pictures in the URL tag!

 

[sabetoonth]

I dont see anything?

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Robert Downey Jr is the star. Robert Downey Jr will be treated as the star.

People find the most insignificant things to complain about.

I'm sorry, but I don't agree. It's basically a stone's throw away from a 'RDJ & The Avengers' title. Downey been featured prominently in the marketing thus far, is it truly an awful idea to start the focus on Evans' Captain America as the leader of the squad?

 

[Guerrilla]

I'm sorry, but I don't agree. It's basically a stone's throw away from a 'RDJ & The Avengers' title. Downey been featured prominently in the marketing thus far, is it truly an awful idea to start the focus on Evans' Captain America as the leader of the squad?

For the marketing? IMO, yes its an awful idea. For the actual movie which, nobody has seen, yet are assuming "IM and friends"? No. I think ut will be a balanced yet clearly captain america led avengers team.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Yep, that's my sentiment as well. RDJ's ego is big enough, must Marvel Studios really make it any bigger? Captain America should be the central focus of The Avengers, not Iron Man.

I understand why Disney/Marvel is marketing the film around RDJ but at this point, it wouldn't hurt the film's revenue stream if the marketing slowly changed the guard.

Those two statements are contradictory. Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

Robert Downey Jr is the star. Robert Downey Jr will be treated as the star.

People find the most insignificant things to complain about.

This.

 

[jaqua99]

Dr. Strange really isn't quirky or oddball.

To me it doesn't make sense to cast him as Dr. Strange. His movies only really do well when he's playing a quirky character. When he isn't they don't do well to justify his pricetag. Hi playing Dr. Strange would be a waste of money. It would open reasonably big and then die off.

Agreed, definitally wouldnt do as well as say thor or cap, and ironman.

Cumberbatch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dempsey (ha). Quite frankly Benedict is in a whole different league.

I really like the idea of Benedict playing Strange.

I can dig it.

My preference for Dr. Strange would be Adrian Brody. He has the right combination of looks, chops, and headlining ability.

I think he would be my choice as well.

I'm tired of people thinking Asgardian magic is "advanced science" it's not because Thor saying "they're one and the same" is just saying Asgardians use magic the same way we use science.

Besides, Loki was called the master of magic multiple times and Odin placing that enchantment on Mjolnir using only words wasn't "science" it was freakin' magic.

Agreed, the whole "your ancestors called it magic, you call it science, well I come from a place, where they are one in the same thing". Which yeah, that is saying that its magic being used for science, but is it? Is that really how it can be interpreted? Dont forget how Jane said, "magic is just science we don't understand yet"....although that could be her thought. If you look at the deleted scene, when Loki creates snakes out of wine, then makes them disappear, I dont think that has anything to do with science, UNLESS, he was using a device to do so. Which he clearly was't. I think the only reason this is debatable is to make the not so hardcore fans not be like, "oh, magic? Are you kidding me right now? That is such a fantasy"...which it is, but those people don't understand...ALSO


When this movie comes out, are all the bandwagon fans going to aggravate anyone else besides me? I mean, all of us, we have been waiting for this movie for 4 friggin years, these people just see a trailer..."oh oh that looks sick, midnight release, lets go", when in reality, they have no idea what, or how big this movie really is? I don't know, seeing all those people going, just to see a midnight release of a movie because it looks good, but they don't know marvel comics, that is going to bug me a little bit...its kinda like...you don't belong here right now, its a special moment.

 

[DrDoom]

HELICARRIER!!!

:faints:

 

[Shadowlord X]

As much as I loved Chris Evan's CAPTAIN AMERICA and this is the character I'm looking forward to most in THE AVENGERS, there's simply no comparison. RDJ's star power is far superior to CE's, and IRON MAN's popularity is far superior to CAPTAIN AMERICA; all wrt the GA.

Thus I cannot fault the marketing. However they need to be careful that they are not over-promoting RDJ/IRON MAN to the detriment of one of the film's major strengths, i.e., the team up aspect.

 

[jaqua99]

it's about trying to reach an even broader audience.. it's smart marketing. Are the fan's really not going to go see this movie because they saw RDJ's head on a japanese poster bigger then caps? No. You will go see it anyway. But will a person who's not a fanboy, but liked ironman, and likes robert downey jr, go see the avengers because they notice him on a poster (while they don't really notice anyone else) yes.

the only people getting all upset about it are the fanboys who are horrified that japanese big head rdj poster = him being the focus of the film (which isn't the case, we've had countless reports saying cap is the leader, the team is equal, and RDJ filmed all his scenes pretty quickly compared to everyone elsese) so take a breather.

I think fiege has said there is no leader, which is unfortunate

 

[DoomsdayApex]

For the marketing? IMO, yes its an awful idea. For the actual movie which, nobody has seen, yet are assuming "IM and friends"? No. I think ut will be a balanced yet clearly captain america led avengers team.

How? People already know RDJ is in the film. I don't see how it would be a terrible idea at this endeavor to focus on Captain a bit more.

With the posters and trailers released, it certainly makes the general audience assume that Iron Man is leading his squad into battle.

 

[Shadowlord X]

I have a feeling Iron Fist will be the one getting a movie before any of the guys we're talking about right now.

I haven't read it thoroughly but the relatively recent expanded immortal IRON FIST mythology does seem quite substantial and may be worthy of the big screen treatment.

But again do martial arts films gross that much nowadays.

I'm with Chewy on bringing on BLACK PANTHER; that characters mythos is just ripe with good material for a big sreen movie.

But I'm for DR. STRANGE as well.

 

[Chewy]

I'm sorry, but I don't agree. It's basically a stone's throw away from a 'RDJ & The Avengers' title. Downey been featured prominently in the marketing thus far, is it truly an awful idea to start the focus on Evans' Captain America as the leader of the squad?

Every trailer has featured Evans and ScarJo in equal measures to RDJ. All of the characters appear on every poster. I don't really understand what more people want.

 

[jaqua99]

again, i didnt say it wasn't magic. But that there could be a mystical science behind all of it. The Energy from the worlds tree, the heart of the star itself being full of "magical" energy that allows odin to cast a "spell" on it, etc.. the golden apples of asgard could also grant magical abilities. etc...

i'm just saying that the words can be interchangeable.

On earth when we don't understand something, we call it magic (until we figure out how to create it ourselves), and I just think what thor was saying is that on asgard, they do the same. What's magic to them, might not be on another planet.

Thats just based on the movie, in reality, I dont think we call thing we don't understand magic, I think its just called, well, something we don't understand, or, more advanced technology, fantasy magic, and "real magic" are totally different. I don't think we call something we don't understand, "magic", on a real perspective, in the real world "magic" is entertainment, so in the movie, we can very well say that it flat out is magic, as I mentioned before the whole magic being science, is simply based off of Jane's statement, which to me, she's speaking of a much more advanced race of beings who she doesn't understand, so it very well could simply be magic...get what I am saying about this?

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Those two statements are contradictory. Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

Funny, I could make the same injudicious statement.

Please explain to me where I contradicted myself.

 

[Guerrilla]

..ALSO


When this movie comes out, are all the bandwagon fans going to aggravate anyone else besides me? I mean, all of us, we have been waiting for this movie for 4 friggin years, these people just see a trailer..."oh oh that looks sick, midnight release, lets go", when in reality, they have no idea what, or how big this movie really is? I don't know, seeing all those people going, just to see a midnight release of a movie because it looks good, but they don't know marvel comics, that is going to bug me a little bit...its kinda like...you don't belong here right now, its a special moment.

I can see why you feel this way...but i do not agree. This movie and really all movies should be and are for everyone. The more fans introduced to this world now, the better for "true fans" and novice fans alike in the long run. Cause it means more of these movies will get made. Taking an elitist, these noobs dont belong at "my" midnight premier attitude is kind of lame, IMO. But to each his own.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Every trailer has featured Evans and ScarJo in equal measures to RDJ. All of the characters appear on every poster. I don't really understand what more people want.

They want the Japanese poster (which is the ONLY promo item that puts extra emphasis on RDJ) to put it's focus on a WWII hero called Captain America regardless if it will help market the movie in Japan or not. Because in the comics he's the leader and stuffs

 

[Shadowlord X]

When this movie comes out, are all the bandwagon fans going to aggravate anyone else besides me? I mean, all of us, we have been waiting for this movie for 4 friggin years, these people just see a trailer..."oh oh that looks sick, midnight release, lets go", when in reality, they have no idea what, or how big this movie really is? I don't know, seeing all those people going, just to see a midnight release of a movie because it looks good, but they don't know marvel comics, that is going to bug me a little bit...its kinda like...you don't belong here right now, its a special moment.

I understand where you're coming from but one of the major goals of the MCU is to turn regular moviegoers into us, people who love these characters and the MARVEL universe, so it will not bother me at all.

I love the concept of all sorts of people who never read a comicbook before becoming huge CAP, IM, THOR, etc., fans.