The BATSUIT Thread

[hafizbat]

I mean, they (the costume designer) could be working with the production designer and cinematographer to set up how it's gonna look on certain scenes. In fact they most certainly are since the costume designer for the batsuit commented this when the cinematographer was confirmed.

So that leaker is claiming that the suit is not blue, it is black, but they are already planning for it to look blue in certain lighting.

Sounds like they're trying to make it look blue then, no?

 

[Legendver2]

So that leaker is claiming that the suit is not blue, it is black, but they are already planning for it to look blue in certain lighting.

Sounds like they're trying to make it look blue then, no?

Black with blue tint is the most likely scenario if there's any truth to any rumors. I mean they practically already did it kinda for all the JL marketing with Batfleck:

In all honesty though, I don't know if it's even possible to make a better batsuit than the one in BvS and JL. Those were so simple, and effective, and not to mention, probably the most comic accurate of anything live-action so far. Going with the Bermejo design would seem too over designed for live action, and it's impossible to go back to an all black aesthetics now after what Snyder gave us. Just change the sculpt of the cowl and some of the muscles and call it a day. Hell they can even bring back the briefs since we saw that work the Arkham games before Arkham Knight if they want to differentiate from Snyder's design but keep the overall look.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

That cowl is not aesthetically pleasing unless you have nostalgia for the 60s show imo.



Since we're discussing unreliable rumors, here's another one. The DCEU leaks subreddit is full of crap a lot of times but I do remember a few months ago a dude said that Giacchino has already written his Batman score which turned out to be true.

Anyway they're as reliable as Polito, KC and Daniel at this point

White eyes AND Pattinson's real eyes? So they are talking about something like this, then?

 

[Invader Joker]

Black with blue tint is the most likely scenario if there's any truth to any rumors. I mean they practically already did it kinda for all the JL marketing with Batfleck:


In all honesty though, I don't know if it's even possible to make a better batsuit than the one in BvS and JL. Those were so simple, and effective, and not to mention, probably the most comic accurate of anything live-action so far. Going with the Bermejo design would seem too over designed for live action, and it's impossible to go back to an all black aesthetics now after what Snyder gave us. Just change the sculpt of the cowl and some of the muscles and call it a day. Hell they can even bring back the briefs since we saw that work the Arkham games before Arkham Knight if they want to differentiate from Snyder's design but keep the overall look.

I'm 100% sure they won't keep Snyder's design.

 

[Travesty]

In all honesty though, I don't know if it's even possible to make a better batsuit than the one in BvS and JL. Those were so simple, and effective, and not to mention, probably the most comic accurate of anything live-action so far.

I think they can, they just need to do a different style. The reason why the Snyder suit is so good, is because it's the most comic accurate. But there's other styles to use from the comics. Snyder was clearly influenced by Miller's TDKR suit, and there's plenty of other artists out there that have different takes that Matt Reeves can go on.

Now, if they go back to the obvious black rubber, yeah, that'll be a HUGE disappointment.

 

[Travesty]

White eyes AND Pattinson's real eyes? So they are talking about something like this, then?

No, I think they mean lenses that can go up and down.

 

[I Am The Knight]

The BvS batsuit design was good, but the actual costume was padded as f***.

 

[Travesty]

The BvS batsuit design was good, but the actual costume was padded as f***.

Yeah, but again, it looked great for the Frank Miller look they were going with. Pattinson is a pretty slim guy, I don't think we're going to get that thick/brute style Batman again.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

No, I think they mean lenses that can go up and down.

Lame

Edit: I am not a fan of the "retractable" lenses concept. Its pointless when you can make the lenses transparent/translucent enough to see the actors eyes (like the pics I posted).

 

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah, but again, it looked great for the Frank Miller look they were going with. Pattinson is a pretty slim guy, I don't think we're going to get that thick/brute style Batman again.

It looked great in the actual film, so I guess that's all that really matters.

I really want to see what Pattinson's suit will look like. Hoping for long ears.

 

[BattleAngel]

Lame

Edit: I am not a fan of the "retractable" lenses concept. Its pointless when you can make the lenses transparent/translucent enough to see the actors eyes (like the pics I posted).

As a major supporter of the lenses, I’m actually pro-retractable lenses. I know you’re into the lenses too, and that we are both into realism. Reasons I like them: 1) Batman would need a way to clear his actual eyes without removing the mask. Blood, sweat, tears, etc. this is sufficient reasoning for me... But if more is needed. 2) As we’ve established, iris scan is among the best security methods; I think it’s likely Batman would use some iris-triggered tech. 3) In my research, opacity changing lenses are just a bit beyond what I think is technically feasible for a lens that has the comic accurate look we are taking about. Happy to be shown something I haven’t seen yet, if you’ve got a good link.

And a very distant 4) It’ll placate the people who need to see the actor’s eyes, this increasing the likelihood of lenses being used in the first place.

 

[Boom]

Just copy this color scheme, minus the orange.

 

[Travesty]

Wait...what's that from?

Edit: oh, Titans. I see now.

 

[Boom]

Wait...what's that from?

Edit: oh, Titans. I see now.

The contrast is a little high in that photo, I admit. The colors are more muted in the show itself.

Still a dope costume though.

 

[Travesty]

Yeah, I think it looks really good.

 

[C Prometheus]

Black with blue tint is the most likely scenario if there's any truth to any rumors. I mean they practically already did it kinda for all the JL marketing with Batfleck

Yeah, I'm wagering that if we get a Blue/Gray Batsuit, the blue hue will most likely be a lot like this. And personally I think it looks great!

In all honesty though, I don't know if it's even possible to make a better batsuit than the one in BvS and JL. Those were so simple, and effective, and not to mention, probably the most comic accurate of anything live-action so far. Going with the Bermejo design would seem too over designed for live action, and it's impossible to go back to an all black aesthetics now after what Snyder gave us. Just change the sculpt of the cowl and some of the muscles and call it a day. Hell they can even bring back the briefs since we saw that work the Arkham games before Arkham Knight if they want to differentiate from Snyder's design but keep the overall look.

If you ask me, Nolan and Burton both did a better job in 1989 and 2005. But that's where we venture off into subjective tastes, and admittedly I'm just not a fan of the Miller look for Batman.

I will say that if we get another fabric, more plain looking Batsuit, I hope to God that Reeves and his team at least opt for a larger, more lush cape than the CGI one that Snyder utilized. Obviously that technique worked well for the fight sequences, but I always felt that you need something more grandiose to convey that "Creature of the Night" vibe Bruce tries to project as Batman to spook criminals.

Part of why I've always preferred a somewhat more armored look for live action Batsuits is because, to me at least, it tends to look alien enough from the normal human physique to where I can imagine that criminals would only see glimpses of the armor- up close or from a distance- and shrouded in darkness while panicking with adrenaline, to the point where they'd make the mistake of thinking that Batman isn't human.

If you're going for a more leather-y or fabric look for the primary suit, I think that needs to be blended away by a different element of the costume to project that illusion. Otherwise, like in BvS/JL, Batman just tends to look rather clearly like a man in a costume- albeit a big man who can clearly kick anyone's ass into next week, but a man. And that, to me, goes right in the face of the idea of Batman creating a symbol that terrifies criminals, who are "a cowardly, superstitious lot."

 

[lujho]

Y'know this might turn into a blue and black / white and gold dress moment but do people consider the Batman TAS costume's cowl, gloves and outside cape gloves to be blue or black? (The inside cape is obviously blue)

Personally I think everything BUT the inside cape is supposed to be black and the blue highlights are just the animators taking artistic license.

In the commentaries on the DVDs I'm pretty sure Bruce Timm has called those "the black parts" or similar.

 

[lujho]

Now let's do Superman's briefs:

this was just a really deliberately unusual coloring choice. If it means anything, I'm pretty sure every toy and statue based on this series just has it as normal red.

 

[Invader Joker]

I just think he looks better in black. I really see no point to the blue other than nostalgia.

 

[Jekecy]

I have a slight preference towards black, but you’re being so insufferable about this I’m praying every night for blue.

 

[craigaat]

I just think he looks better in black. I really see no point to the blue other than nostalgia.

This is awesome

 

[FatRobin]

I have a slight preference towards black, but you’re being so insufferable about this I’m praying every night for blue.

Same Plus I do want to see them try something new. Black has been done so many times at this point.

 

[Invader Joker]

I have a slight preference towards black, but you’re being so insufferable about this I’m praying every night for blue.

I haven't really been a fan of any live action batsuit so far so it wouldn't be that big of a deal to me if this batsuit was underwhelming to me as well. I'd brush it off, like I have with the other suits as long as they don't do something too off putting and super controversial. I'm just expressing my preferences and concerns.

My thing is that the blue can work but even the designs that look good on blue, look even better in black. I haven't seen a single design where I've went "Oh that'd look better on blue!"; it really does strike me as more of a product of nostalgia over the whole "It pays homage to the way some artists color the suit!" rather than an actual aesthetic choice that looks good on its own. And I get it I guess; it's a similar reason as to why the white eyes would hype me but still, I feel you need to be really connected to certain versions of the character to prefer the blue over the black becausehonestly by their own the black just looks better and contrasts better with the grey and yes, even the yellow.



It just pops out more. It looks better, more cool.

Also, if they had colored Batman's cowl as entirely black in the animated series it'd have disappeared into the background because of the dark deco style. It's no wonder why they had to use the blue and why they dropped it as soon as the redesigns came.

 

[FatRobin]

My thing is that the blue can work but even the designs that look good on blue, look even better in black. I haven't seen a single design where I've went "Oh that'd look better on blue!"; it really does strike me as more of a product of nostalgia over the whole "It pays homage to the way some artists color the suit!" rather than an actual aesthetic choice that looks good on its own. And I get it I guess; it's a similar reason as to why the white eyes would hype me but still, I feel you need to be really connected to certain versions of the character to prefer the blue over the black becausehonestly by their own the black just looks better and contrasts better with the grey and yes, even the yellow.

I haven't watched a single episode of Adam West's Batman and I still think blue is beautiful in its own way dude. It can be more than just a product of nostalgia. And the guys who are designing it are professionals, if they think that it could work, I want to see them try. We can never know if something works in reality or no if we've never seen the professionals taking a shot at it. Cosplays and manips don't really count.

 

[Invader Joker]

I haven't watched a single episode of Adam West's Batman and I still think blue is beautiful in its own way dude. It can be more than just a product of nostalgia. And the guys who are designing it are professionals, if they think that it could work, I want to see them try. We can never know if something works in reality or no if we've never seen the professionals taking a shot at it. Cosplays and manips don't really count.

I know earlier I said nostalgia for the 60s show but I guess it's more nostalgia for certain types of bat comics in general where its blue

And I mean professionals have screwed up many batsuits and superhero suits in general even as of recently, so I'm not exactly putting blind trust in them especially since the costume designers for the batsuit in this movie have not designed any other superhero costumes so who knows what they'll come up with.

I have faith in Matt Reeves when it comes to his casting choices and his writing and direction. It's the design part that I'm afraid he'll screw up just like how every other bat-director has.

But yeah, I'll guess we'll have to wait and see. All we're doing now is speculating and discussing what we all think is better for the suit. Maybe if it ends up being dark blue they can execute it in a way that'll make me eat my words but unless he looks like that John Reagan fanart I reaaaally doubt it; if I think it sucks I'll just say it sucks and that'll be the last of it.