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The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland

The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland

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WorthyStevens

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Which noir are you looking forward to seeing the most?

I want to see both, but moreso for TBD. I'm more familiar with the story behind it, and having Scarlett in it doesn't hurt...
 
TBD, it looks like L.A. Confidential, but even greater.

Also, I loved the music from trailer :up:

But I also can't wait for Hollywoodland.
 
The Black Dahlia. The trailer was amazing. It almsot gave me chills. And it has:

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That being said, Hollywoodland looks quite good as well.

But if I had to choose, I'd give it to TBD. :up::up:
 
I'm going to say Hollywoodland, though I wished they would have kept the original title.
 
I prefer the story behind Hollywoodland more (as it is slightly more factual on film apparently too though neither are accurate) but BD looks better made, I will admit. Yet, something seems a little...slick about it. I am looking forward to Hollywoodland quite a bit though.
 
It's not noir, it could be noir inspired, but a key tennant of noir is it BEING BLACK AND WHITE! Noir is a dead genre like Expressionism, and many others, it died with Touch of Evil in the 60s :mad:
 
Noir isn't defined as being black and white
 
Movies205 said:
It's not noir, it could be noir inspired, but a key tennant of noir is it BEING BLACK AND WHITE! Noir is a dead genre like Expressionism, and many others, it died with Touch of Evil in the 60s :mad:

Definition of noir from Dictionary.com:

noir (nwär)
adj.
  1. Of or relating to the film noir genre.
  2. A genre of crime literature featuring tough, cynical characters and bleak settings.
  3. Suggestive of danger or violence.
 
Black Dhalia only confirms to me that Mia Kirshner is a Lesbian ( aint nothig wrong with that) But dag for a straight woman she typecast as a lesbian a lit ( L Word, 24, some random 2002 blockbuster movie I saw, this movie)
 
WorthyStevens4 said:
Definition of noir from Dictionary.com:

noir (nwär)
adj.
  1. Of or relating to the film noir genre.
  2. A genre of crime literature featuring tough, cynical characters and bleak settings.
  3. Suggestive of danger or violence.

Film Noir refers to a period in film, that goes beyond simple the script, it refers to shot values, and even in stories it refers to more than just crime, it also has tenants that must be followed. Noir is dead, now we're in a time of things that are influenced by Noir but are not.
 
Both look excellent but The Black Dahlia has a visual style that appeals to me:up:
 
Hollywoodland. That's the trailer that gives me chills every time I watch it and a mystery that really interests me.
 
Hollywoodland looks better, but The Black Dahlia doesn't look bad.
 
Movies205 said:
It's not noir, it could be noir inspired, but a key tennant of noir is it BEING BLACK AND WHITE! Noir is a dead genre like Expressionism, and many others, it died with Touch of Evil in the 60s :mad:

I disagree. This is a serious misconception. I happen to think that noir lapsed out for a while in the sixties, but the French continued making them, and in the 70s there was a serious revival of noir themes and aesthetics, with colour. What's more important to noir than black and white is the worldview. So, while it might not be considered pure noir, it CAN be noir. There are a lot of movies made post-classical period that have more noir philosophy at the core than some of the originals.

Incidentally, they DO have a term for noir inspired. Neo-Noir.
 
JLBats said:
I disagree. This is a serious misconception. I happen to think that noir lapsed out for a while in the sixties, but the French continued making them, and in the 70s there was a serious revival of noir themes and aesthetics, with colour. What's more important to noir than black and white is the worldview. So, while it might not be considered pure noir, it CAN be noir. There are a lot of movies made post-classical period that have more noir philosophy at the core than some of the originals.

Incidentally, they DO have a term for noir inspired. Neo-Noir.

Agreed. Just because it's not in black and white does not mean it's entire devoid of film noir elements.
 
Poetic Chaos said:
Black Dahlia has lesbians.

Lol. :up:

Ok, I admit- maybe I'm a bit immature.

But, still- Hollywoodland wins my vote.
 
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