The Brave and the Bold News and Discussion Thread

Extrapolation-heavy? Sure. But boring? Nah.

I probably share Invader's sentiment more, but it's been a good discussion all around.
 
Since this movie has no release date, I am wondering if Gunn is going to hold off on making it until the Pattinson/Reeves trilogy is finished.
 
Extrapolation-heavy? Sure. But boring? Nah.

I probably share Invader's sentiment more, but it's been a good discussion all around.
Yeah, it's all in good fun. Clearly we're all very interested in the BTS aspect of these movies so it is only logical that we spend a lot of time discussing them.
 
Since this movie has no release date, I am wondering if Gunn is going to hold off on making it until the Pattinson/Reeves trilogy is finished.
Was thinking about a potential timeline earlier. Assuming the strike stuff ends “soon” Part II stills releases in 2025 along with Penguin probably.

The Batman Part III assuming it happens will probably be scheduled for 2028-2029, so if Gunn really wants this film out, 2027 seems the safest bet. But taking into account what will probably be at LEAST two other Reeves spin-offs, I think a “Final” timeline will look like this.

Winter 2024-2025 Penguin
Fall 2025 Batman Part II
Fall 2026 Reeves-Spin-Off (Clayface?)
Summer 2027 Brave And The Bold
Fall 2028 Another Reeves-Spin-Off (Arkham?)
Fall 2029 Batman Part III
 
Since this movie has no release date, I am wondering if Gunn is going to hold off on making it until the Pattinson/Reeves trilogy is finished.
Would be a bad idea since it's the one film in his DCU slate with the most potential to make money; and he's already made his bed when announcing it in February and just clarifying it wouldn't release in "the same 6 month window" as The Batman Part ll.
Was thinking about a potential timeline earlier. Assuming the strike stuff ends “soon” Part II stills releases in 2025 along with Penguin probably.

The Batman Part III assuming it happens will probably be scheduled for 2028-2029, so if Gunn really wants this film out, 2027 seems the safest bet. But taking into account what will probably be at LEAST two other Reeves spin-offs, I think a “Final” timeline will look like this.

Winter 2024-2025 Penguin
Fall 2025 Batman Part II
Fall 2026 Reeves-Spin-Off (Clayface?)
Summer 2027 Brave And The Bold
Fall 2028 Another Reeves-Spin-Off (Arkham?)
Fall 2029 Batman Part III
This seems about right but I'd expect 2026 to be when Arkham releases since it was being written since last year and already has a showrunner and director.
 
As for the timeline of this movie's production, well, assuming they get a screenwriter in March.... (And granted, they could get one sooner, but still, I'm gonna assume it /might/ take a while for them to nail the right person)

IF IT TAKES AS LONG AS IT TOOK MATT FOR THE BATMAN
20 months writing (March 2024-November 2025)
6 months pre-production (November 2025-May 2026)
6 months filming (May 2026-November 2026)
11 months of post (November 2026-October 2027)

MEDIUM SCENARIO (39 months)
15 months writing (March 2024-June 2025)
6 months pre-production (June 2025-December 2025)
6 months filming (December 2025-June 2026)
12 months post (June 2026-June 2027)

36 MONTH SCENARIO
12 months writing (March 2024-March 2025)
6 months pre-production (March 2025-September 2025)
6 months filming (September 2025-March 2026)
12 months post (March 2026-March 2027)


IF IT TAKES AS LONG AS GUNN DID FOR SUPERMAN
8 months writing (March 2024-November 2024)
9 months pre-production (November 2024-August 2025)
6 months of filming (August 2025-February 2026)
12 months of post (February 2025-February 2026)

FAST SCENARIO (30 months)

6 months of writing. (March 2024-September 2024)
6 months of pre-production (September 2024-March 2025)
6 months of filming (March 2025-September 2025)
12 months of post. (September 2025-September 2026)


So anywhere from late 2026-late 2027 is when this film could be released. As far as casting goes, and assuming he's not on Superman: Legacy or on another DCU project beforehand, we'll get Batman's casting anywhere from November 2024-November 2025.
 
I suspect if that complete ****ing rando is right it'll be purely by accident because everyone knows there's a reasonable chance it ain't gonna happen with Andy :funny:.

I can't speak to what he's heard right now, but Jamie's been a mod here for a long time and has been generally trustworthy.
 

Please keep talking to me about how this movie has no chance in hell of attracting talent.
 
It attracted Muschietti.
 
Who won't last in this project especially if this is the writer they're talking to.
Okay, I don't think Muschietti winds up directing this either but lmao Logan writing it will have no effect on that.
 
Okay, I don't think Muschietti winds up directing this either but lmao Logan writing it will have no effect on that.
If they can attract someone like John Logan to write the screenplay there is absolutely no incentive to keep Muschietti as they'd also be able to attract someone 100 times better with that type of screenwriter and with this IP.
 
If they can attract someone like John Logan to write the screenplay there is absolutely no incentive to keep Muschietti as they'd also be able to attract someone 100 times better with that type of screenwriter and with this IP.
They'd keep Muschietti is they want Muschietti. Which they clearly did. I suspect The Flash probably will lead to him dropping out but that is the only reason. Whether we think Muschietti sucks or not is totally irrelevant to whether Gunn and the studio does.
 
I mean isn’t it just possible that Gunn…likes Muschietti? I don’t care if he’s replaced or not and the project is at least 3-4 years from release, there’s a chance everyone attached to every project gets replaced at this far out from production.
 
Logan's work has been very spotty overall. Still, an interesting choice that could work well with Muschietti.
 
I mean isn’t it just possible that Gunn…likes Muschietti? I don’t care if he’s replaced or not and the project is at least 3-4 years from release, there’s a chance everyone attached to every project gets replaced at this far out from production.
Muschietti is so obviously someone Gunn would like. The Flash is ****ing awful but I can immediately and easily imagine Gunn really liking it.
 
I mean isn’t it just possible that Gunn…likes Muschietti? I don’t care if he’s replaced or not and the project is at least 3-4 years from release, there’s a chance everyone attached to every project gets replaced at this far out from production.
They'd keep Muschietti is they want Muschietti. Which they clearly did. I suspect The Flash probably will lead to him dropping out but that is the only reason. Whether we think Muschietti sucks or not is totally irrelevant to whether Gunn and the studio does.
I still cannot believe you guys keep believing that whole "Flash was the best thing ever" line of PR that they made every executive at Warner Bros say. It should be more than obvious by now that no one that said it meant it.
 
I still cannot believe you guys keep believing that whole "Flash was the best thing ever" line of PR that they made every executive at Warner Bros say. It should be more than obvious by now that no one that said it meant it.
Yes, because studio's and people involved are always completely rational and don't have their own opinions/biases/group think. Clearly, the more likely answer is that it was pure conspiracy and that Muschietti was a directorial false flag.
 
Yes, because studio's and people involved are always completely rational and don't have their own opinions/biases/group think. Clearly, the more likely answer is that it was pure conspiracy and that Muschietti was a directorial false flag.
You keep saying it as if we hadn't seen this exact same thing happen in Hollywood several times lol. Remember Joss Whedon directing Batgirl which he later admitted was never actually a thing and he never even had so much of an idea for it? Remember the fake Jason Momoa Frosty the Snowman movie that was reported on after Ray Fisher's drama? It's hardly this extremely far-fetched conspiracy theory when it's something that WB specifically has done a lot of and it's clearly in their damage control playbook. (The Flash being a movie in which they had to do A LOT of damage control)
 
John Logan, huh. Could do worse. Depending on who they replace Andy with, this might have a shot lol.
 
I still cannot believe you guys keep believing that whole "Flash was the best thing ever" line of PR that they made every executive at Warner Bros say. It should be more than obvious by now that no one that said it meant it.
Why do I have to believe that to think Gunn likes Muschietti? It's not "Gunn believes he's the second coming or Gunn Hates him and can't wait to get rid of him "
It's possible Gunn has an idea for Batman, Muschietti had a similar idea and then Gunn intrusted it to a director that's already directed some Batman and has a working relationship with Warner Brothers.

And again I'm not for or against Him staying but some people on here are acting like it's an impossibility that at worst we get a mediocre Batman movie.
 
With John Logan writing I could see any of the following names being signed on to direct:

-Sam Raimi: The most likely if we're being honest. Cut from the exact same mold as other hires Gunn has made (Mangold) or attempted to make (Matthew Vaughn) and already expressed interest in the job.
-Dan Trachtenberg: He's always been likely, but a seasoned genre blockbuster writer like John Logan seems like a natural fit for him directing his first blockbuster on this massive scale.
-Sam Mendes: Worked with John Logan several times before, and if they want the James Bond-ian aspects of Batman represented (which John's hire seems to suggest) it'd make sense to hire him.
-Joseph Kosinski: A seasoned genre blockbuster writer seems like a natural fit for him as well in this sort of project.
-Gore Verbinski: Worked with John Logan before, the tone he goes with in his most popular works seems like something they'd want for this.
-Darren Aronofsky: If he were ever to step up on doing a big blockbuster CBM like he's clearly wanted to do for a while a writer like this seems like the most natural companion.
-Travis Knight: Has always been likely but again, this is the exact type of screenwriter I'd expect to be paired up with him, like with Trachtenberg.
-Maybe Gareth Edwards? The Creator was enough of a flop to make it so he'd go back to IP. And once again, seems like a fit with this screenwriter.
 

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