The Brave and the Bold News and Discussion Thread

[SwordOfMorning]

Verbinski would be an excellent choice for this.

 

[BobJM]

I think Muschietti is fine for this, tbh. I really didn’t like Flash, but I don’t doubt him as a director. Give him a good script

 

[Invader Joker]

I do because the worst parts of The Flash can be traced back to him being a bad director, especially the way he handled VFX sequences, or how horrible the whole thing looked.

 

[emc5466]

With John Logan writing I could see any of the following names being signed on to direct:

-Sam Raimi: The most likely if we're being honest. Cut from the exact same mold as other hires Gunn has made (Mangold) or attempted to make (Matthew Vaughn) and already expressed interest in the job.
-Dan Trachtenberg: He's always been likely, but a seasoned genre blockbuster writer like John Logan seems like a natural fit for him directing his first blockbuster on this massive scale.
-Sam Mendes: Worked with John Logan several times before, and if they want the James Bond-ian aspects of Batman represented (which John's hire seems to suggest) it'd make sense to hire him.
-Joseph Kosinski: A seasoned genre blockbuster writer seems like a natural fit for him as well in this sort of project.
-Gore Verbinski: Worked with John Logan before, the tone he goes with in his most popular works seems like something they'd want for this.
-Darren Aronofsky: If he were ever to step up on doing a big blockbuster CBM like he's clearly wanted to do for a while a writer like this seems like the most natural companion.
-Travis Knight: Has always been likely but again, this is the exact type of screenwriter I'd expect to be paired up with him, like with Trachtenberg.
-Maybe Gareth Edwards? The Creator was enough of a flop to make it so he'd go back to IP. And once again, seems like a fit with this screenwriter.

I think your top 5 choices are the most likely. The Creator was a huge flop and Gareth Edwards was essentially fired from Rogue One so I don’t see another studio hiring him for a tent pole again anytime soon. Aronofsky makes dark movies which this isn’t likely to be since the Reeves films are already dark and serious. Travis Knight retreated back to his studio after working on Bumblebee and appears to have no interest in leaving to take another gig anytime soon. He also apparently clashed with producers on Bumblebee and I’ve heard rumors that he was replaced for reshoots.

Raimi is studio friendly and has made blockbusters with the type of tone that WB will want for this so he’s the most likely choice unless he signs up with Marvel again.

 

[Invader Joker]

I think your top 5 choices are the most likely. The Creator was a huge flop and Gareth Edwards was essentially fired from Rogue One so I don’t see another studio hiring him for a tent pole again anytime soon. Aronofsky makes dark movies which this isn’t likely to be since the Reeves films are already dark and serious. Travis Knight retreated back to his studio after working on Bumblebee and appears to have no interest in leaving to take another gig anytime soon. He also apparently clashed with producers on Bumblebee and I’ve heard rumors that he was replaced for reshoots.

Raimi is studio friendly and has made blockbusters with the type of tone that WB will want for this so he’s the most likely choice unless he signs up with Marvel again.

Here's the thing about Aronofsky: He's wanted to do a CBM for years and years, not to mention, he recently wrote a children's book which he said he'd have gladly made into a movie had he had the chance, so I do think the idea that he might do this is not as far fetched as it seems at first glance, especially since the source material for this is plenty dark anyway even if they have a more adventurous fantastical take than something like the neo-noir The Batman.

Do I think he's likely? Probably not but I can see the scenario where it'd happen.

Travis Knight idk, I think the prospect of directing a Batman movie would be very appealing to a genre director like he is. But yeah it does seem like he's more focused on animation now.

But yeah I'd generally agree that probably Raimi, Trachtenberg, Kosinski are the most likely candidates. I'd generally say Sam Mendes isn't that likely but the John Logan of it all changes that dynamic dramatically since both of them are quite close to each other and his participation could sell him on it.

Gore Verbinski I'm kinda skeptical off because idk if they wanna break him out of director's jail for this lol. But looking at his best work he's kinda undeniably a good fit for this more fantastical, but still dark take on Batman.

I wish I could be more excited about the prospect of Raimi. If it was Spider-Man era Raimi I think he'd be perfect but Multiverse of Madness was so incredibly flatly directed it makes me skeptical on him; I'd hope he still has what made him great back then.

 

[Boom]

IF Muschietti was given the boot, Verbinski would be tons of fun for this.

 

[C Prometheus]

Verbinski would be fun, but Raimi makes a ton of sense to me. Unless of course Feige snatches him up first to helm Secret Wars or something.

 

[Filmfreak]

I think your top 5 choices are the most likely. The Creator was a huge flop and Gareth Edwards was essentially fired from Rogue One so I don’t see another studio hiring him for a tent pole again anytime soon. Aronofsky makes dark movies which this isn’t likely to be since the Reeves films are already dark and serious. Travis Knight retreated back to his studio after working on Bumblebee and appears to have no interest in leaving to take another gig anytime soon. He also apparently clashed with producers on Bumblebee and I’ve heard rumors that he was replaced for reshoots.

Raimi is studio friendly and has made blockbusters with the type of tone that WB will want for this so he’s the most likely choice unless he signs up with Marvel again.

Rogue One made a billion and Godzilla good enough to spawn a franchise. He hasn't made a box office bomb based on preexisting property, so The Creator is a whole other story.

But the thing is Edwards isn't interested in franchises anymore so I can guarantee you that it's far more like for a big studio to approach him for a project than it is for him to give up trying to do original things like he said he wants.

 

[flickchick85]

Just wanna state for the record that I would be ALL ABOUT a Gore Verbinski Bat-flick, especially one inspired by Morrison’s run.

 

[Invader Joker]

There'd be something pretty funny about Gore Verbinski getting out the director's jail he's been in since the Lone Ranger with the same project Muschietti would be kicked out of because of getting into director's jail for The Flash.

 

[flickchick85]

I mean, I don’t think there’s a chance Gore would be picked, as he’s kind of notorious for inflating his budgets, which is the real reason he’s been in director jail for so long, but I just think he’d be cool.

 

[Invader Joker]

I am sooo ready for that scheduling conflicts headline.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I am sooo ready for that scheduling conflicts headline.

Oh, it's totally going to happen

 

[emc5466]

They should just go back to Tim Burton. Have him continue the awesome world that he built with the first two movies but with a younger cast.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

They should just go back to Tim Burton. Have him continue the awesome world that he built with the first two movies but with a younger cast.

Tim Burton has not displayed the slightest sign of life as a filmmaker in like twenty five years. I'd take Muschietti over him in a heartbeat and I think Andy sucks.

 

[Filmfreak]

Tim Burton has not displayed the slightest sign of life as a filmmaker in like twenty five years. I'd take Muschietti over him in a heartbeat and I think Andy sucks.

That's harsh. I'd say it's been 15 years he's done something really worth mentioning in cinema, though I did thoroughly enjoy his work in Wednesday. And Muschietti would only dream to have some of the fantastic films that Burton did in the past.

 

[emielaen]

They should definitely not go back to Tim Burton.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I love Batman Returns but even by Returns you can tell his interest in making Batman movies is middling at best.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Tim Burton has not displayed the slightest sign of life as a filmmaker in like twenty five years. I'd take Muschietti over him in a heartbeat and I think Andy sucks.

I liked Big Eyes at least, even though that's pretty grounded compared to the rest of his filmography.

 

[emielaen]

Let a woman have some fun.

 

[WatchProtect]

Seeing all the other characters showing up in Superman: Legacy and Brave And The Bold sometimes being used as a team up series, I wonder if we see maybe some Titans with Nightwing, or maybe Question or Huntress or Zatanna. I know the movie will probably have lots of Bat-Family characters already In it already but just some thought I had.

 

[Invader Joker]

With John Logan writing they can get someone decent to direct this. I'm not saying they can get Steven Spielberg or something, but they definitely can get someone of quality unlike what many people thought at first. They don't have to be scrapping at the bottom of the barrel.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

With John Logan writing they can get someone decent to direct this. I'm not saying they can get Steven Spielberg or something, but they definitely can get someone of quality unlike what many people thought at first. They don't have to be scrapping at the bottom of the barrel.

I like Logan too but he's not some massive draw. He's a very competent studio guy but he's also done a lot of outright hackwork over the years. I like his plays a lot, Penny Dreadful rules and a bunch of his movies are also awesome but dude also wrote Spectre and Nemesis. I don't blame him for any of those, they're pure work for hire and presumably noted to death but having Logan attached isn't gonna be attracting the cream of the crop, especially since presumably they'll be locked into his script instead of getting to build it up fresh.

Again, I think when Andy probably drops out they'll get a perfectly competent normal journeyman type. I don't expect some total hack. But I do think it'll be a Dan Trachtenberg type; someone solidly competent, amenable, without a ton of clout, etc.

 

[Invader Joker]

I like Logan too but he's not some massive draw. He's a very competent studio guy but he's also done a lot of outright hackwork over the years. I like his plays a lot, Penny Dreadful rules and a bunch of his movies are also awesome but dude also wrote Spectre and Nemesis. I don't blame him for any of those, they're pure work for hire and presumably noted to death but having Logan attached isn't gonna be attracting the cream of the crop, especially since presumably they'll be locked into his script instead of getting to build it up fresh.

Again, I think when Andy probably drops out they'll get a perfectly competent normal journeyman type. I don't expect some total hack. But I do think it'll be a Dan Trachtenberg type; someone solidly competent, amenable, without a ton of clout, etc.

I'm not saying that his name will instantly attract a cream of the crop director, but I do think he has enough clout that he will attract someone competent. A Dan Trachtenberg type is exactly what I'm referring to. Gunn could've gone will all sorts of different cheap hacks for this movie but instead he went with a screenwriter with 3 Oscar noms under his belt, that's nothing to sneeze at. Regardless of whatever misses he may have had on his career that's still nothing to sneeze at, how many screenwriters can say they have that behind them? Hell, most screenwriters if anything have many more misses with none of the hits in that level.

I will say this though: Doesn't his hiring also indicate that this movie might not be as comedic or as light hearted as some people initially thought it was gonna be? Not to say I think it'll be this mega dark sad thing, I'm sure it'll be super fun but, but like, once again, if something mega-comedic or kid-friendly was the direction Gunn was taking with this project, this would not be the screenwriter he'd have hired for it.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I'm not saying that his name will instantly attract a cream of the crop director, but I do think he has enough clout that he will attract someone competent. A Dan Trachtenberg type is exactly what I'm referring to. Gunn could've gone will all sorts of different cheap hacks for this movie but instead he went with a screenwriter with 3 Oscar noms under his belt, that's nothing to sneeze at. Regardless of whatever misses he may have had on his career that's still nothing to sneeze at, how many screenwriters can say they have that behind them? Hell, most screenwriters if anything have many more misses with none of the hits in that level.

I will say this though: Doesn't his hiring also indicate that this movie might not be as comedic or as light hearted as some people initially thought it was gonna be? Not to say I think it'll be this mega dark sad thing, I'm sure it'll be super fun but, but like, once again, if something mega-comedic or kid-friendly was the direction Gunn was taking with this project, this would not be the screenwriter he'd have hired for it.

A bit, yeah, but Logan is by his own admission a chameleon writer who morphs to suit the assignment. My assumption is he's on this because he's worked on Bond and my suspicion is that a more mainstream, accessible take on the Morrison material is gonna be heavily Bondian - which is a bit unfortunate because the TDK Trilogy were almost entirely Batman through the lens of Bond in an incredibly effective way so I find that sort of regressive creatively.