The Catwoman/Selina Kyle Casting Thread - Part 1

[shauner111]

I would say his casting was one of his strengths. SS had its problems, but the cast was solid. Who did he really miscast? I can't really think of anyone. It was also the most diverse comic book cast (maybe ever). So his casting choices aren't really something to worry too much about.

Leto might be hard to tell but Cara, who is a model who shouldn't be given a role as the main villain was BAD casting. And to think she was going to be working with Tom Hardy...ouch. That would have made her look even worse.

Baffling casting.

 

[BaneandDawn]

Eva Green would be my first choice as Catwoman/Selina Kyle

 

[Indy Flash]

Something I Did Eva Green Catwoman. My Choice Too.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Why she got a 60 year old chin?!!!

 

[regwec]

Whoever gets the role, she cannot wear Hathaway's crappy Selina Kyle in goggles costume.

 

[Wildcard]

I would hope not. Not only crappy but so incredibly bland, especially when compared to how much effort was put into Batman's suits. Would hate for the same to happen with the DCEU version.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Nolan was grounded in his realism, and that costume was a pure product of it. I doubt it'll be the case in this universe, considering everything we've seen so far.

 

[Wildcard]

Even given the added realism to the TDK trilogy, Catwoman's suit still could've been infinitely better than it turned out to be.

 

[regwec]

Were Hathaway's ludicrous spiked heels grounded in realism? Or her streaming Loreal hair?

 

[Wildcard]

Were Hathaway's ludicrous spiked heels grounded in realism? Or her streaming Loreal hair?

Probably diva-esque behavior on the latter. I could imagine Hathaway not wanting to wear a full mask at all costs.

 

[Jekecy]

Hopefully Ayer doesn't get too crazy with his artistic liberties in the new Selina. I'm hopeful with new management they'll be more enticed to stick to the source. I was always hesitant in how well a direct translation would work, but something a bit more tactical of this would work in this universe:

 

[Rodrigo90]

Were Hathaway's ludicrous spiked heels grounded in realism? Or her streaming Loreal hair?

 

[Osiris-Rex]

Were Hathaway's ludicrous spiked heels grounded in realism? Or her streaming Loreal hair?

Catwoman had pretty much always had streaming Loreal hair. It was only after Frank Miller F-ed the character up that Catwoman started looking butch. Wore spike heels too.

 

[regwec]

I know that! The point is that Hathaway's Catwoman retained the impracticalities while shedding the aesthetics.

 

[Boom]

The actual catsuit in TDKR was fine. The lack of a cowl and the stilettos ruined it for me. It was a pretty bland look.

 

[David H.]

I...

... I liked the DKR suit

 

[Wildcard]

Hopefully Ayer doesn't get too crazy with his artistic liberties in the new Selina. I'm hopeful with new management they'll be more enticed to stick to the source. I was always hesitant in how well a direct translation would work, but something a bit more tactical of this would work in this universe:

This, imo, would be the perfect aesthetic to shoot for.

 

[Greenlite]

Hopefully Ayer doesn't get too crazy with his artistic liberties in the new Selina. I'm hopeful with new management they'll be more enticed to stick to the source. I was always hesitant in how well a direct translation would work, but something a bit more tactical of this would work in this universe:

Since this is DC, the reaction to this kind of design ought to be -

UN anti-WW petition people "Sexualizing women! Sexist!"

"Snyder's costumes are way better, way to go WB "

Lindsay Lohan "Can't we just all have peace?"

"Black Widow with goggles! Marvel copycat!"

Scarlett Johanson "Monogamy is not natural"

Wait.

 

[KillerWolf]

Were Hathaway's ludicrous spiked heels grounded in realism? Or her streaming Loreal hair?

Yeah, if anything, TDKR Catwoman costume was quite jarring in his "realistic" world. Especially with that frickin' domino mask. It was basically a slightly modernized Julie Newmar's costume.

 

[shauner111]

Her costume was awesome for that world. Sexy but not sl***ty. Practical but still odd at the same time. Classic Newmar with a mix of modern era all at once. She doesn't need a cowl in order to be Catwoman, although now would be tne right time to do that. She doesn't need a whip either. The essentials were there with that version.

Right now I would go with the short hair, goggles, cowl, more cleavage, etc. Because it fits this world and it's a fresh interpretation in live action. As long as she's not being played by an actress who looks 19 and can't act (constantly over acting the part, which is an easy thing for an actress to fall into)..then it'll be great. Ayer nailed the casting for Harley but completely missed the boat with Enchantress so we can't be sure.

 

[KillerWolf]

Eh... don't really agree with that. I think she looked silly and oddly impractical for that world, but to each their own.

Ditch the cleavage from that list and I agree. Catwoman's sex appeal doesn't come from strategically revealing clothes, I actually find it to work better with completely zipped-up catsuit. I'd like something that combines aesthetic with utilitarian practicality, akin to "Telltale: Batman" suit:

Which brings me back to Nolan, as I find that this suit above would work much better in his universe than Julie Newmar homage he went for.

 

[shauner111]

I agree about the catsuit/cleavage. It's not necessary, but i can absolutely see it happening with the next version. Or sometime in the near distant future.

i don't really get the complaint that Hathaway's suit was impractical. For me it was the definition of practical. The goggles were useful, and it was a neat little thing to have her flip it up to get it out of her face and it looks like cat ears. Like Kevin Smith once said, it's pretty genius. Yet simple.

Her actual suit? What was impractical about that? Tight leather, sexy (in my opinion), helped her move around better.

Her hair? Shouldn't be a criticism if you look at the characters history/look.

Heels? Sure, on the surface you would think "why are you wearing heels?" but in the film it didn't seem to be a problem with how she moved, or ran away from characters. And they also came in handy when those razor sharp stilletos could do some damage to Daggett and Stryver when they tried messing around with her.

So what's the problem? It sounds more like an issue with the design, because i don't see the "it was impractical" argument at all.

It's time for something different. Something close to the Arkham games would be perfect.

 

[Jekecy]

Heels? Sure, on the surface you would think "why are you wearing heels?" but in the film it didn't seem to be a problem with how she moved, or ran away from characters. And they also came in handy when those razor sharp stilletos could do some damage to Daggett and Stryver when they tried messing around with her.

So what's the problem? It sounds more like an issue with the design, because i don't see the "it was impractical" argument at all.

Having a single-use functionality doesn't just excise all its weaknesses as footwear, especially for a supposedly stealthy burglar. Most especially when said functionality relies on constantly kicking your feet up in the air. That's the very definition of impractical.

Only Nolan could get away with giving his female lead stilettos (but serrated!) and still retain his image of function-over-design.

Thank goodness it was just a one-off. I just pray Ayer doesn't somehow mess it up even worse.

 

[KillerWolf]

I agree about the catsuit/cleavage. It's not necessary, but i can absolutely see it happening with the next version. Or sometime in the near distant future.

i don't really get the complaint that Hathaway's suit was impractical. For me it was the definition of practical. The goggles were useful, and it was a neat little thing to have her flip it up to get it out of her face and it looks like cat ears. Like Kevin Smith once said, it's pretty genius. Yet simple.

Her actual suit? What was impractical about that? Tight leather, sexy (in my opinion), helped her move around better.

Her hair? Shouldn't be a criticism if you look at the characters history/look.

Heels? Sure, on the surface you would think "why are you wearing heels?" but in the film it didn't seem to be a problem with how she moved, or ran away from characters. And they also came in handy when those razor sharp stilletos could do some damage to Daggett and Stryver when they tried messing around with her.

So what's the problem? It sounds more like an issue with the design, because i don't see the "it was impractical" argument at all.

It's time for something different. Something close to the Arkham games would be perfect.

If "Arkham" games are anything to go by, it does seem likely.

Suit itself was fine, but giving a long, flowing hair (that a) gets in a way in a heist or a fight and b) leaves DNA all over the place) and steel stilettos (Jekecy already listed reasons why those are impractical) to a character that is supposed to be a thief just doesn't make any sense.
Regarding the first thing, character's comic book history doesn't really excuse having it in a universe that aims to be grounded, especially since cowled version has been existing in the comics for the last few decades. The second is just ridiculous for anyone who is supposed to run, perform acrobatics, fight or even just walk on a surface that is not perfectly paved.

Goggles are pretty much the only element of the suit I liked, it was a pretty clever design. But then domino mask (which doesn't really seem necessary, when you think about it) looked very silly.

 

[pixen]

Use the Darwyn Cooke outfit/look with the boots ad goggles. Just please don't show cleavage/chest. Zip it up. Also have the mask and body suit connect also so we dont get that odd little bit of skin showing between the two looks.