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[MadVillainy]

I don't like animation snobs in general or when critics bash some animated movies when it's clear they're not the target audience. I think a lot of critics and just people in general have a hard time judging a movie for what it is. I mean, I still see people bashing a Fast and Furious movie for being "too unrealistic"

I think most regular people do judge a movie for what it is. People online is a different story. I feel too many people online (who I know are technically "regular" people but you get what i mean) spend way too much time and energy bashing movies by nitpicking them apart, looking for things they claim are plot holes, and just going "Heh heh heh look how stupid this is." I honestly blame CinemaSins and ScreenRant Pitch Meetings. But that's another story

To the bolded. I don't mind that as long as they're not endlessly doing it. I met someone at a friends house who said such about the F&F series. I was like "Ah come on. You just gotta turn your brain off" and he replied "Yeah I just can't do that." And that's fair. Not everything is for everyone. I had a teacher back in the day who said he didn't like time travel movies because he can't wrap his mind around the concept of time travel. I don't understand that but that's his opinion/life. I don't really care about people complaining about movies for those types of reasons as long as they're not talking down to those who do and/or aren't constantly complaining about it

 

[MadVillainy]

I mean, do we want animation to be taken seriously as an equal form of cinematic art or do we want to brush away criticism of it because it's "just for kids"? Good kids movies are good movies and bad kids movies are bad movies.

Not sure what this has to do with what I said.
My point is that not everything is a four quadrant made for everyone type thing. And that includes animation. And I don't get why go out of your way to watch movies, shows, etc. not made for you and then complain.

I wasn't saying every animated movie is made for kids. But there are some, like Boss Baby or Rollie Pollie Ollie or Dora the Explorer, where the primary audience is very young people or children. And that's fine. But I don't get why adults without kids go see those types of movies and complain about them. They're not the audience for the movie. It's like hating seafood and then going to a seafood restaurant on your own accord, saying the food sucks and complaining.

Example: I had a song from a old DCOM movie from my childhood stuck in my head the other day (don't ask why. I'm not sure) and when I went to YT to listen to the song, in the Up Next section I got served a 20 something dude's YT channel where all he does is bash DCOM movies. Movies made for people 14 and younger at best. And he was doing it on his own accord. Not like his kids are making him watch it or whatever. That's just weirdo behavior to me and I don't get it other than it being pretty pathetic.

And not even with animation. I was trying to pick out a movie with a friend and she wanted to watch Sweet Home Alabama (that Reese Witherspoon-Josh Lucas movie). I, a 30 year old dude, am probably not thought to be the target demo for a movie like that. So we watched and of course I thought it sucked. But she, who is in the target demo, loves it and thinks it's a great movie. It is what it is.

And of course there's some things where some is not thought to be the demo but they still enjoy the product. But my point still stands by and large.

Not everything is meant for everyone. And that's cool. But I just don't get why go out of your way to see something not made for you and then complaining.

To your last sentence, that's just not true. Everything is subjective. Good isn't good and bad isn't bad because everyone has different takes of what "good" and "bad" are

 

[Black Narcissus]

I'm more in awe of them building a cinematic franchise by ripping off Point Break. Bigelow should be getting some kind of checks. Eh.

 

[MadVillainy]

Does anyone know a good site to get real high quality HD screengrabs of film shots? I usually use Google Images but the newer rules of Google Images is making it more difficult to find

 

[Kane52630]

You gotta go to Google's advance search for that.

https://www.google.com/advanced_image_search

Or you can use this site

Movie- Screencaps.com

 

[MadVillainy]

You gotta go to Google's advance search for that.

https://www.google.com/advanced_image_search

Or you can use this site

Movie- Screencaps.com

Been using Advanced Search and still it's getting worse. It's just the changed Google Images has been doing for a bit now.

Will try the other site

 

[Black Narcissus]

The club scene after the robbery in the film 'Victoria' for some odd reason always makes me emotional. Every damn time I revisit that moment. That ecstasy of joy-filled of pending doom and sorrow captured on screen. More folks should've seen this flick. It was shot in one take. Laia Costa.

 

[MadVillainy]

What are some non composers would you guys like to see do a movie score ala Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross, RZA, Jonny Greenwood, Daft Punk, etc.

There's a couple of hip hop producers like Madlib, Q-Tip, and Roc Marciano who I think would be great.
(Boondocks actually used this instrumental/song)



Pre-2016 Kanye would've been interesting too.





Other than those, Muse would be really cool.

An out of the box choice but I think Weezer could be really interesting if they go more the metal/hard rock route


EDIT: Academy Award winning Three 6 Mafia (namely DJ Paul) could probably create a really good horror movie score. Makes sense since they're so influenced by horror and John Carpenter and his darker scores

 

[Kane52630]

The Glitch Mob first comes to mind.





Kavinsky had Drive but he just had an album released and I can see him doing a whole movie score.




CONFRONTATIONAL would make some amazing syth horror scores.




Roosevelt is another one I can see transition to movie scores.

 

[MadVillainy]

Yeah Kavinsky and any retrowave type artist would be great. The Midnight would have my vote


Roosevelt would be good too

Another hip hop example but Tyler the Creator. He did the soundtrack for The Grinch but not the score itself

 

[Black Narcissus]

Blonde

That teaser trailer was fantastic. Having read the book and the script, this story isn't a biopic, so if Ana's accent slips through, I'm more than ok with it, as this is just bonkers to begin with. Most will hate it, but tis' one of my most anticipated flicks.

 

[Kane52630]

Yeah Kavinsky and any retrowave type artist would be great. The Midnight would have my vote


Roosevelt would be good too

Another hip hop example but Tyler the Creator. He did the soundtrack for The Grinch but not the score itself

What about a Jordan Peele type movie with a Massive Attack score? that would be incredible.

 

[Kane52630]

Paramount: we won’t remove content from eras with ‘different sensibilities’

The boss of the US media company Paramount has said he does not want to remove historic programmes from his new subscription streaming service because they no longer meet current expectations.

Bob Bakish, Paramount’s CEO, said his company had thousands of shows in its back catalogue. “By definition, you have some things that were made in a different time and reflect different sensibilities,” he said. “I don’t believe in censoring art that was made historically, that’s probably a mistake. It’s all on demand – you don’t have to watch anything you don’t want to.”

Streaming companies have struggled with how to adapt to modern cultural expectations when it comes to archive shows, with BritBox and the BBC’s iPlayer among those removing content that is no longer deemed appropriate for modern tastes.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Fun Film Discourse Story:

Some yahoo over on The Site That Shall Not Be Named was hating on the wedding dance sequence in Ms. Marvel and ranting about how they want to keep "cringey" dance numbers far away from Hollywood movies. I noted how complaints like that left us in the most boring era of Hollywood. They doubled-down and I cracked a joke about how the people who hate dance sequences are the same people building generic beige houses and greyscale cars. And I KID Y'ALL NOT, they LITERALLY responded with "My house is beige and that's just the way I like it! What would you want, green polka dots?"

Never have I seen someone so proud to be so boring. An own-goal of epic proportions.

 

[Kane52630]

That dude probably thinks salt is too spicy.

 

[MadVillainy]

Netflix Axes Another 300 Staff, Taking Total Layoffs To Around 450 – Deadline

I'm really curious how this turmoil or whatever affects their plans for the Grey Man series as well as the Red Notice series. Red Notice 1 cost over 200 mill to produce. They're filming the sequels back to back so that's probably almost 500 mill budgeted at least due to salary bumps and new cast members

 

[DarthSkywalker]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Netflix Axes Another 300 Staff, Taking Total Layoffs To Around 450 – Deadline

I'm really curious how this turmoil or whatever affects their plans for the Grey Man series as well as the Red Notice series. Red Notice 1 cost over 200 mill to produce. They're filming the sequels back to back so that's probably almost 500 mill budgeted at least due to salary bumps and new cast members

Stuff like Red Notice is what they want to spend a crap ton of money on, while getting rid of the vast majority of everything else. It's an interesting strategy. Let's see how it goes.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Stuff like Red Notice is what they want to spend a crap ton of money on, while getting rid of the vast majority of everything else. It's an interesting strategy. Let's see how it goes.

You can't forget the part of the strategy that includes dumping cash on the absolute worst possible ideas for reality TV shows.

 

[flickchick85]

Netflix has always produced mostly trash and will continue to. Especially when it comes to movies. The only good movies they've released were ones they acquired that other studios didn't want for commercial reasons (like Roma and The Irishman). The Knives Out sequels will probably be an exception since they won a bidding war for those and it was at that point an existing IP and therefore a known quantity, but generally, the stuff they actually were a part of from the ground floor has been generic, disposable mediocrity. That's not gonna change. The problem was never how much they spend, it's what they choose to spend it on.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I'm curious to know any film soundtracks that was obscure to ya'll, but became favorites after being introduced to them via said flick(s) etc. Most recently to me was 'Riki-''Come Inside''. Via the great little flick called 'Watcher'. That entire sequence when this song is introduced is aces.

@Kane52630

 

[flickchick85]

I'm curious to know any film soundtracks that was obscure to ya'll, but became favorites after being introduced to them via said flick(s) etc. Most recently to me was 'Riki-''Come Inside''. Via the great little flick called 'Watcher'. That entire sequence when this song is introduced is aces.

@Kane52630

One of my favorite James Newton Howard scores is for a movie I’d never heard of from 1995 called Restoration, which I found due to one track from it called “The Fire” being a popular trailer cue for a while.

Still never seen the movie, but it has a really good cast so I should probably check it out lol.

 

[Kane52630]

Speaking of Watcher and Maika Monroe... for me it's everything from The Guest soundtrack.

 

[Kane52630]

I noticed Netflix added The Mist and it's on their top 10 list...so naturally i'm reading all the reactions on twitter and of course, they are losing their sh**. lol

 

[MadVillainy]

I've never seen the whole movie but I can see why some don't like the ending. Not even just the "I need a happy ending" crowd. From what I've seen of the movie and read, it does kinda come out of nowhere.

I think it's a good ending. But just because it's a shocking twist. Not because it's clever or well thought out.