The Dark Knight the dark knight and what we want

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see when we have a movie come out we always want it to be like comics or btas or what ever like when scarecrow came out i wanted him to be reaper style and him sayin "iam the master of fear"(but when i saw scarecrow i loved it) but we wont get what we always want and when joker comes out most of us want mark hamil did kinda like he did in birds of prey and we want harley to have a fun voice with coyotes and batman to get mad at her and buy her a candy apple just to keep her busy but we most like wont get what we want so just hope it will be great for one reason we know they cant do horrible i hope yall see what iam saying kinda

:bat: bnightwing :bat:
 
What 'we want' isn't always the best for a franchise -- a little flick that came out at the start of May taught me that. I happened to like it, but then again I love the character and can be quite forgiving generally.
 
Lets be frank...we all want the comic book in movie form, but half the stuff in the comics would cost more than the movie to make ( like the Sentinals, Galactus, Darksied, ect) it is just impossible for film makers to please all of us and make a profit, which is what this is all about. I would like a frightening Joker, a Batman who still lurks in the shadows, a bad a** batmobile, a peak at Two-Face, not just a throw of the chemicals and then end of movie, and finally no deaths of any villians
 
Yeah the scope of what you can do in comics is very wide. Film has it's limits, I just want to see Batman himself evolve so that the movie could live up to it's title. I don't really care too much about Nolan's Joker just let Batman go through **** that will make him stronger in the end.
 
I've seen BB again today and I want this film to be even better, I want this film to be the best comicbook-movie ever. I wanna see it also as a great great movie in general, just like Casino Royale & BB.


But I have faith in Nolan and of course in Ledger :joker:
 
I want bale to fix his voice. I want better performances and cinematography. I want heath to surprise us all and be at least really freaky and funny if he can't bust out with the insanity like hamill. I want batman to be treated like a mysterious creature of the night, more than rambo with his battank crashing through everything in sight. Above all I want batman to show us why he's the world's greatest detective. good lawd, can't the man use that brain of his instead of fox being the real batman.
 
I want what BB started to continue on in TDK
 
not gonna happen.

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fans whine

fans whine about whining

fans whine about fans whining

wash rinse repeat
 
1) Better dialogue
2) Rooftop scenes
3) Amazing performances from Ledger and Eckhart to show us they belong in the franchise.
4) More screentime for Gary Oldman.
5) Couple of little fanboy hints (e.g. Bruce going out on date with S. Kyle)
6) A tightly wound plot which pays homage to the comics that inspired it yet takes us in an unpredicatble and exciting new direction.
7) Oh, and boobies.
 
You can't always get what chu woant!
 
1) Better dialogue
2) Rooftop scenes
3) Amazing performances from Ledger and Eckhart to show us they belong in the franchise.
4) More screentime for Gary Oldman.
5) Couple of little fanboy hints (e.g. Bruce going out on date with S. Kyle)
6) A tightly wound plot which pays homage to the comics that inspired it yet takes us in an unpredicatble and exciting new direction.
7) Oh, and boobies.

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1) Better dialogue
2) Rooftop scenes
3) Amazing performances from Ledger and Eckhart to show us they belong in the franchise.
4) More screentime for Gary Oldman.
5) Couple of little fanboy hints (e.g. Bruce going out on date with S. Kyle)
6) A tightly wound plot which pays homage to the comics that inspired it yet takes us in an unpredicatble and exciting new direction.
7) Oh, and boobies.
Love your list, I'd just like to tack on a couple of things.

8) Getting to see more sides to Alfred
9) More detective work from Batman
10) At least one fight scene where I can clearly see what the hell is going on ;)
 
Here is my argument in a nutshell:

Anytime a movie or TV project has the "Batman" label on it, it instantly has potential because of the possibilities are endless. But far too often we get a visionary piece and directors trying to make statements. They want to change this, or add that, take away X or make Y bigger and better. They simply forget one thing: If you are directing a big budget movie about a comic book hero, chances are is that the character is alredy a success and has a fanbase. Don't go tweaking this or combining X & Y to get Z. If you want to share your vision, do it in an independant film.

Here is what I want:

Leave Bale alone. So far he is the best one to play the role. Possibly tweak the suit a lil here and there, but that's all.

If Batman is to have a love interest, let it be Selina Kyle or Talia. But if you must give Bruce Wayne a love interst, she must be a bimbo that adds to his cover as a billionaire party boy. If this love interest ever finds out that he's Batman, she's gotta die by the end of the film :cwink:

The Joker is an icon, don't mess with what's worked for the past 60+ years. He also has a regalness to him, so lose the suit that we've seen so far in the spy pics taken in Chicago. The suit makes him look like a 2 bit bum. I'm not sayng that every suit should be purple and green, but they should be what the Joker considers "fashionable".

The Joker is not a raccoon so lose the black circles around his eyes. Yes, the Joker has been drawn with dark circles under his eyes before, but from what we've seen he looks like he's wearing a Lone Ranger mask.

The mouth has got to go. The cut smile is a good idea if it's done correctly, but it's not working. Lose it. The sloppiness of the red smile makes it look like he's had 5 glasses of Kool Aid. Remember, the Joker has a sense of regalness so I highly doubt is he would draw that on that sloppily.

And speaking of "drawing that on", the Joker is that way due to an accident. He does not get his look from Mary Kaye so we better not see him apply make up in the movie.


Harley Quinn is a character that has been incorporated into the Batman mythos after appearing in a cartoon series. WB owns DC and they decided to make her canon. Just because WB wants to bastardize the mythos does not mean that you have to. Please, no Harley Quinn, and I hope to God never see 2 hyenas named "Bud" and "Lou" in a live action Batman flick. We've had enough camp with the 60's TV show and the last Schumacher film. Please do not incorporate a bloody kids cartoon into your movie.


That's what I want. I know that it won't happen and I'll be flamed for even posting this, but hey it's SSH! Batman forum. I realized it before I posted it. Call me a troll all you want, I'm stating my opnion.
 
First and foremost, better edited fight scenes. Next, better lighting. In Begins, I thought there was a lot of white light which was reflecting off of Batman's costume. Batman should be cloaked in shadow most of the time, making him truly look like a "creature of the night".
Oh, and I second the "more boobies" motion! :woot:
 
Anytime a movie or TV project has the "Batman" label on it, it instantly has potential because of the possibilities are endless. But far too often we get a visionary piece and directors trying to make statements. They want to change this, or add that, take away X or make Y bigger and better. They simply forget one thing: If you are directing a big budget movie about a comic book hero, chances are is that the character is alredy a success and has a fanbase. Don't go tweaking this or combining X & Y to get Z. If you want to share your vision, do it in an independant film.

Here is what I want:

And speaking of "drawing that on", the Joker is that way due to an accident. He does not get his look from Mary Kaye so we better not see him apply make up in the movie.



That's what I want. I know that it won't happen and I'll be flamed for even posting this, but hey it's SSH! Batman forum. I realized it before I posted it. Call me a troll all you want, I'm stating my opnion.

So any director should just do what the fanbase wants and/or make no changes tot he source material? Slavish adherence to the source material does not automatically make for a better movie. The Ducard/Ras thing was a complete invention, but worked really well.

Re the lipstick: Joker has applied lipstick in the past, DKR springs to mind.

Also, there's no need to be so defensive. Everyone's here to share opinions.
 

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