The Dark Knight Beyond (where I'd take the series after TDKR)

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  1. Always Sunny Nightman Sneaky Mean

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    T H E D A R K K N I G H T B E Y O N D

    • Influences would include the Nightwing story arc and Batman Beyond.

    • Blake gets ****ed up during his first patrol out in the city as Batman.

    • A gang inspired by the Joker are running around ****ing **** up similar to the Citizens for Batman copycats.

    • A mobster known only as Black Mask has taken control of the criminal underworld and uses remnants of Bane's former mercenaries and Blackgate inmates who have gone "underground" as muscle, the group is led by a hulking brute based on the Mutant Leader from Miller's The Dark Knight Returns.

    • Blake seeks out Alfred Pennyworth to get in touch with Wayne.

    • Wayne decides to train Blake out in the mountains, tells him to become his own "beast".

    • Blake returns to Gotham and Fox develops a suit for him.

    • Blake debuts as Nightwing and in his first act, he manages to lock up most of the members from the Joker copycat gang.

    • Blake returns and ****s up the head of Black Mask's muscle.

    • Black Mask manages to kill Blake's mentor, Gordon, sending Blake to beating down Black Mask to the point of death.

    • The whole theme of the film would be "Inspiration", delving into the consequences of Batman as a symbol and Blake trying to live up to the legend Bruce left behind for him.
    Sort of want.

    More.

    • Casting call
      • Idris Elba, Cliff Curtis or Javier Bardem confirmed for leader of Black Mask's muscle. Origins are unknown but they would have alot of pull amongst the left over League of Shadows and Blackgate inmates who have escape persecution.
      • Paul Dano as the head of the Joker gang that the media has dubbed, "the Jokers". They would refer themselves though as "agents of chaos".
      • Haven't decided on who should be Black Mask though.
    DUH-DUH-DUH!

    I was actually thinking Alberto Falcone would be Black Mask. Yeah, it's a rewrite but I'm basing this in the 'Nolan-verse' plus it would tie it back to Begins. At first, Blake with detective work that Roman Sionis is Black Mask. Until it's revealed that he was killed six months prior by Alberto Falcone leading to Alberto being the one really behind the mask. That would be the twist.
     
  2. Always Sunny Nightman Sneaky Mean

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    Don't sleep on this guys. Would like to see opinions and what you would like to see personally.
     
  3. TheWatcher Dapper

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    Love your ideas.

    Though I would leave Sionis as Mask and leave Gordon alive.
     
  4. bluehit Registered

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    Well, the domain www.shadowofthebatthemovie.com and shadowofthebat-themovie.com is still registered by WB

    BTW I love the idea of Blake being a Nightwing and batman and a cameo of Bruce training him at the mountains
     
  5. Always Sunny Nightman Sneaky Mean

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    Thanks for that, bluehit. Thanks for scaring the **** out of me. Anyway back to the topic at hand. I would much rather have Sionis in there. People would be thinking Roman is Black Mask until Alberto Falcone reveals himself as a god-tier like twist.
     
  6. Victarion Iron Captain

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    I'd leave the story as is (the Dark Knight trilogy, that is. I think its perfect). Yet, I also like your idea for Blake's story arc. It feels very natural. No to your Alberto idea; Black Mask can be written as his own character.
     
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    I was kind of hoping against hope for a "Jokerz" type gang to be featured in a third Nolan Batman film. Good stuff so far. I agree with Wooden Alligator about keeping Black Mask as his own character.
     
  8. PSYLENTGuardian El Pollos Hermano

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    This would make a great fan fiction. I'd be up for helping write it if I weren't already consumed by Summer homework and other plans.
     
  9. Mob1423 LE-HOO...SEH-HER!

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    I always thought Blake repaired the bat signal, The Bat would become his Batmobile because it can fly, and he would modify any spare batsuit parts to his liking

    I'd kill to have a Batman Beyond movie after having those thoughts
     
  10. Always Sunny Nightman Sneaky Mean

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    So, I might actually do this as a fan fiction project. Anyone willing to join the team? We would have to discuss things (I prefer IM) so yeah. I'm actually a scriptwriter and am currently penning a script for a Mortal Kombat reboot that I might fax over to Warner Brothers or just go straight to Ed Boon directly.
     
  11. Uroboric Forms Your Move, Creep

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    This is one of the few things that I think would be a pretty cool way to take things, especially including Black Mask and having Bruce train him.
     
  12. Syncope Registered

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    It's too predictable. Bruce training Blake in the mountains? Meh.
     
  13. Always Sunny Nightman Sneaky Mean

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    Everything would run along natural here, I want to do it in that style. Blake training with Wayne would echo Wayne's training with Ra's from Begins. I don't think it's predictable at all and if it is, it's a logical step in the right direction.

    The crime would be to not have Blake training at all. I was going to introduce The Sensei who might train Blake but I'm not sure about that.
     
  14. shauner111 Registered

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    I think the environment in which Bruce trains Robin should be different. This is not the league of shadows and Blake is not Wayne. He's his own person. You can run the parallels without repeating the training sequences from Begins. No mountains for me personally. Or at least somewhere in Italy would be better.

    At least this is what i've been writing. I said 2 weeks ago that i was writing something of a Nightwing meets Beyond story for Blake. And some of your stuff is pretty cool.

    I like some of your ideas, like the Black Mask and joker gang.
     
  15. Always Sunny Nightman Sneaky Mean

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    So, where would you guys like to take the series?
     
  16. shauner111 Registered

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    Well it's late, and im tired lol, so i dont want to get into it too much. But JGL going out as Nightwing for a while, to become the Batman with that Beyond suit is still on the table for me.

    I think his evolution is very important. The concept of Robin constantly growing as a character should be the only reason to think up any kind of story. Just like Nolan did with Bruce's arc.

    The villains are confusing. There's a lot of options but it has to fit with Blakes experiences. Im liking the Black Mask/Jokers gang thing. Im liking the detective story with Nygma. Im liking the Penguin starting something underground and becoming Mayor story. Im liking Blake recruiting youngsters from the orphanage for his very own "sons of batman". Even Mr Freeze down the road as a main villain to a Batman set in the future with his new suit...

    There's SO many options if ur continuing the story. That's the beauty (and FRUSTRATION) of Nolans ending to TDKR.
     
  17. KalMart 239-Bean Irish Chili

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    To BluRay. :woot: It should end with this film the way it was intended to. Leaving it with the possibilities for Blake works well as an ending, but I don't find it very interesting as a possible beginning that I'd like to see continued....and I honestly don't think that's what they wanted to leave possible with it. It was meant as an ending, period, to that cinematic world and everything involved with it, and I'd be glad to see it stay that way. I really hope that WB doesn't try to do spinoffs from this.
     
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    They wont, but we're just talking about where it could go. For the peeps who would like to see it carry on, even just on paper.
     
  19. KalMart 239-Bean Irish Chili

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    Oh I know...and like discussed elsewhere, I'd do a "Blake and the Sons Of Batman" approach....starting it about ten years after TDKR.
     
  20. Tequilla Registered

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    I would like something crazy.

    Damian Wayne is born (yeah far-fetched that she was pregnant...and that would come alive of from the accident.But for the sake of it). Neo-Batman (JGL) knows about this after a while and takes care of him. Has he grows up , NB accepts him as his second , and givse him his own name (Robin).

    2nd movie would basically be a Death in the Family spin. JGL would die at the hands of Joker , who doesnt recognize him as the real Batman so he kills him. Bruce would come back once again , much older and starting to get suspicious about who Robin really was.

    Maybe its a very shhitty idea :woot:

    I really like the way Nolan treat some of Batman myths. He created a formidable universe. Heck , i would love to see a whole movie dedicated to the League of Shadows.
     
  21. shauner111 Registered

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    The sons of batman thing is cool, maybe even the death in the family story. But yeah, obviously Damien cant be in this universe. Maybe if a year or so had passed from the time Bruce was tossed in the pit and his return. But thats not the case.
     
  22. Mob1423 LE-HOO...SEH-HER!

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    Even if they DID continue with John Blake's story, I don't think Damian should be involved as Robin. John Blake isnt Dick Grayson
     
  23. KalMart 239-Bean Irish Chili

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    If anything I'd want to do something where it's evolved from just one man in a suit, and to give everything a different dynamic than just what they got before with some different people.

    Actually...you know what I'd like to do as a trilogy? Jump way forward with each installment. You're in Batman Beyond-ish time by the second, then way into the future by the third. That way you're really evolving the ideals and legacy of what Batman established, and spanning truly epic measures of time with each prior story really being the stuff of legend to the next.
     
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    I've followed Batman stories all my life. From comics , movies , tv...and i will never understand internet's love for Batman Beyond.

    Can you imagine Damian discovering he was the son of the original Batman , that also killed his mother ? Kinda wicked
     
  25. Mob1423 LE-HOO...SEH-HER!

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    But he DIDN'T kill her, just like he didn't kill Ra's Al Ghul. As long as Damian knows that, he shouldn't be a demented and brooding Robin
     

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