dhandler01
Don Zod Has Declared It!
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I don't understand what you mean...it's an opinion no unlike any other one.
I’m sensing that he meant that as some sort of flex, but honestly, Gunn should probably send him an Edible Arrangement and a thank you note for distancing Joker from what he and his team are putting together.
Seriously.Saying they need to rethink their slate when we haven’t even gotten to the slate that Gunn has put together feels a bit like concern trolling IMO.
Yeah, I'm one of the more openly cynical people here about the DCU but I don't think this says anything about their prospects. They'll have their own issues to overcome largely unrelated to what this movie had.Saying they need to rethink their slate when we haven’t even gotten to the slate that Gunn has put together feels a bit like concern trolling IMO.
I agree in that I truly don't think audiences will see Superman as any different from the DCEU movies that came before it. Quality and word of mouth will make up for a lot, but obviously its a huge up hill battle for them.Concern trolling lol that’s a new one. I WANT DC TO SUCCEED, why would I spend so much time here if I didn’t? The usual suspects get so bent out of shape when negative comments are made and genuine concerns are brought up. Discussion is about differing viewpoints but some people want blind acceptance and optimism, and that’s never going to be me.
Acting like DC studios slate isn’t going to be affected by the general negative reception to previous non DCU projects is way too optimistic. Yes this is a new universe but DC doesn’t exist in a vacuum and audiences will have a hard time forgetting being burned over and over and over and over..
Joker failing hurts DC in general and they need to think very carefully about the movies they make. I don’t want the DCU to fail, I’m tired of DC being second best. But there’s a very great chance Gunn’s attempt is going to fail miserably. WB is the most reactionary studio out there, we’ve seen what happens when they panic. I think it’s a good idea to be conservative with the slate. Things like Bane/Deathstroke, Dynamic Duo and The Authority seem risky. It’s not my money so I don’t really care but I just hope WB is smart with the slate so we can get as many movies as possible.
We’ll see when Superman releases. If that isn’t a smash hit, they’re gonna pivot like they always do. I hope that isn’t the case and the movie finally establishes a modern Superman that audiences actually like.
With the way the box office is looking, I don't think they will continue to let Todd do his thing.
Zaslav trying to swing his **** around even though he’s got no sense for any of this stuff.I dont understand how WB even allowed Joker 2 to balloon into a $150-$200mill budget film. Especially after 1 had $55mill budget.
Does the Joker bomb effect James Gunns DCU? I don’t see how an Elseworlds movie can kill a franchise but I am hearing chatter. So what is the truth.
It’s amazing how Joker flopped. Aquaman actually did the best and everyone knew the DCEU was done. Unless Superman is the greatest movie of all time, it might be in trouble. I mean even The Batman only hit just below $800 million and that was arguably the best comic book movie since Endgame.No. Though it will just make it that much harder general audience wise to get people in the seats with yet another DC flop. 5 in a row.
Those movies were not going to be the key to a movie universe. The Batman and Batman Begins was its own thing and Captain America was never on Superman’s level until the success of the Avengers movies. If Superman bombs the DCU could go the way of the Universal Monster Universe.I think The Batman is a good model for Superman, or something like Captain America First Avenger or Batman Begins, where the first movie doesn't gross the big box office numbers but gets that great word of mouth and grows its audience. Which is much more difficult to do in today's day and age.
Those movies were not going to be the key to a movie universe. The Batman and Batman Begins was its own thing and Captain America was never on Superman’s level until the success of the Avengers movies. If Superman bombs the DCU could go the way of the Universal Monster Universe.
How much do you think WB is expecting from Superman. It’s gonna be their top marketed film next year. Sadly anything less than 700 million won’t cut it. Superman will either be a success or bomb. No in between. The last two summer movies that came out around Superman’s release date was Barbie and Deadpool. Those movies made a billion. Zazie expects the same for Supes.They were absolutely designed to be a key to a movie universe. Batman Begins was supposed to relaunch the Batman movie franchise, after Batman & Robin. Captain America and Thor were supposed to continue to build up hype for The Avengers. Even Iron Man in 2008 didn't gross a billion dollars (its domestic total was around the $300 mil range).
You can't build a new universe and gross a billion dollars right off the bat. Especially after all the bombs have damaged the DC brand.
How much do you think WB is expecting from Superman. It’s gonna be their top marketed film next year. Sadly anything less than 700 million won’t cut it. Superman will either be a success or bomb. No in between. The last two summer movies that came out around Superman’s release date was Barbie and Deadpool. Those movies made a billion. Zazie expects the same for Supes.