The DOOMSDAY CLOCK is ticking...

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  1. Sawyer

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    I know there's a Rebirth thread, but I'm thinking this one will make good use of a thread all it's own.

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  3. Sawyer

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    Not reading those, but glad to know it's going well so far. My interest is so high I'm actually driving into the city to pick up a physical copy on Thursday morning.
     
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  5. Sawyer

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    NY Times writer...

    https://twitter.com/georgegustines/status/933182254515408896
    Not getting spoiled is going to be borderline impossible, but goddammit, I'm excited.
     
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  6. titansupes

    titansupes Well-Known Member

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    I'm picking up the issue tomorrow, but I'm going to have so much trouble avoiding spoilers... Due to work being a bit crazy, I'm only... TWO issues into my Watchmen reread (a very necessary read, since I've only read it once, and that was like 2006 or so).

    And I've still got The Button to go. :doh:
     
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  7. Sawyer

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    The Button was enjoyable enough, but I'm glad I trade-waited rather than read it on an issue by issue basis. Issue 1 was literally 90% fight scene, and it wasn't really as much Watchmen/Rebirth as it was [blackout]Flashpoint[/blackout], so I did feel a bit misled. But I suppose I should wait until Doomsday Clock is done to see how to feel about The Button within that context.
     
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  8. geetard

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    Loved the first issue! Frank's artwork and Robinson's colours are fantastic. :hmr: The matte paper is also another great touch.

    So, no surprise Rorschach is not Walter (I guess we can call him Rorschach II now).
     
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  9. Sawyer

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    I got myself spoiled, though I fully expected that to happen anyway, and I'm okay with it.

    Figured [blackout]Veidt would be the one with the brain tumor[/blackout]. Relieved that [blackout]Rorschach is a legacy character, rather than the alternative[/blackout]. Also like hearing that the two that [blackout]Rorschach[/blackout] broke out are based on Charlton villains.
     
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    I'm still not sure how I feel about this in general. I hold Watchmen in such high regard that I don't like the idea of someone making a sequel to it -- let ALONE unnecessarily connecting it to the main DC universe. I just don't understand how you can have a story that focuses on deconstruction and connect it to a world that isn't intended to be seen through a realistic lens.

    I might pick it up, but I have incredibly low expectations.
     
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  11. Sawyer

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    I don't think it's unnecessary at all. What was teased in DC Universe Rebirth was a meta commentary on the lasting impact of Watchmen and how that deconstruction started to seep out into the larger universe. It's about the legacy of Watchmen, for better and also for worse.

    I think there's a real thesis statement to this book that goes beyond just "Superman and Doctor Manhattan duke it out in a boxing ring".
     
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    Hmmm, interesting. I'm more intrigued now, although still cautious.
     
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  13. Cobblepot

    Cobblepot Giant-Size Man-Thing

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    The mute looked an awfull lot like Bruce. Could he be?

    Not much happened in the first book, so I can't say much if it's going to be any good.

    Did Rorschach always talk like that? I think they went overboard with that.
     
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  14. Man in the Suit

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    Because that's not Walter Kovacs.
     
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  15. Cobblepot

    Cobblepot Giant-Size Man-Thing

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    Yeah figured that much, he kinda died at the end of 'Watchmen'
     
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    Watchman is a stand-alone story. It has no ties to anything. It has a beginning, middle, and an ending. Your reasoning above is actually why I'm a little dubious of Doomsday Clock, especially considering I was pretty underwhelmed by the first issue.

    The cynic in me sees it this way: at best, Doomsday Clock is a run-of-the-mill superhero story that goes the way of Before Watchmen - to a realm of indifference. At worst, Doomsday Clock is, and turns "Watchmen" into, a plot point used to creatively explain away piss-poor editorial and creative choices since 2011 and arguably 1987.
     
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  17. Sawyer

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    I feel like the "This story had a beginning, middle, and end" argument works better when not applied to something created by the same guy who wrote The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
     
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  18. geetard

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    I love Watchmen, but I don't consider it sacred so any prequel/sequel/spin-off won't be blasphemous to my eyes.
     
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    Did a review of the first issue, and while I don't think Doomsday Clock is going to set the comic book world ablaze like Watchmen did, and is essentially fan fiction, it's still very, very good. And as a sequel to Watchmen and a tie-in to DC, it works surprisingly well, too.

    Stillanerd Reviews: Doomsday Clock #1 review
     
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  20. Sawyer

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  21. Sawyer

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    https://twitter.com/geoffjohns/status/942875965956296705
    Hmmmmm
     
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  22. squeekness

    squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    I read the first issue of this and liked it well enough to see how the rest of it goes. :)
     
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    ^ Same. Very much a set-up "don't worry, we can get the tone right" kind of issue. Some good little mysteries established. Looking forward to seeing what comes next.
     
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