Superman Returns The Effects of Kryptonite

[Superfreak]

STM: Kryptonite makes superman instantly weak. It actually hurts him. The second he is exposed to kryptonite, he is totally debilitated. He can barely function. He can barely talk, and he definately can't swim. We assume it takes away his invulnerability, although it is never shown. He does not know about the kryptonite because it is hidden in a lead box.

Smallville: Same as STM, but it makes clark's veins pop out, and looks really painful. It also takes away his invulnerability. It's affects are also blocked by lead.

SR: Well, it seems he can't sense that the kryptonite is there and that it affects his invulnerability without him realizing it, so it doesn't cause pain if he's exposed to it from a distance (as he was on NK, an island made of kryptonite and rock, and the kryptonite was not hidden in some sort of lead container). However, it does cause damage to him, if it is in physical contact with him. It burns his hands when he is lifting NK. However, Kryptonite in SR is not debilitating like it is in STM, because he is still able to lift NK into space, even though he has a small shard of it still left in his side (taken out in the hospital).

 

[Bad Superman]

STM: Kryptonite makes superman instantly weak. It actually hurts him. The second he is exposed to kryptonite, he is totally debilitated. He can barely function. He can barely talk, and he definately can't swim. We assume it takes away his invulnerability, although it is never shown. He does not know about the kryptonite because it is hidden in a lead box.

Smallville: Same as STM, but it makes clark's veins pop out, and looks really painful. It also takes away his invulnerability. It's affects are also blocked by lead.

SR: Well, it seems he can't sense that the kryptonite is there and that it affects his invulnerability without him realizing it, so it doesn't cause pain if he's exposed to it from a distance (as he was on NK, an island made of kryptonite and rock, and the kryptonite was not hidden in some sort of lead container). However, it does cause damage to him, if it is in physical contact with him. It burns his hands when he is lifting NK. However, Kryptonite in SR is not debilitating like it is in STM, because he is still able to lift NK into space, even though he has a small shard of it still left in his side (taken out in the hospital).

I think this is why the NK lift was so slow. His powers weren't 100%.

 

[DOG LIPS]

I did think kryptonite was dulled down a bit in the movie. He would have never been able to lift a giant ball of it into space AND have a shard in is side.

 

[Immortalfire]

I believe you meant, "effects".

 

[Superfreak]

I believe you meant, "effects".

who cares, you got the point

 

[The Sage]

I was under the impression that he was trying to act as if he wasn't weak while confronting Lex. They did show a bead of sweat on his head, so Superman must've been feeling pain or weakness.

 

[Bad Superman]

I was under the impression that he was trying to act as if he wasn't weak while confronting Lex. They did show a bead of sweat on his head, so Superman must've been feeling pain or weakness.

I got the same impression. As soon as Lex spotted the bead of sweat he punched Superman.

 

[Immortalfire]

who cares, you got the point

I care. The title looks like the Kryptonite loves him or something..affection.

 

[Action ACE]

I did think kryptonite was dulled down a bit in the movie. He would have never been able to lift a giant ball of it into space AND have a shard in is side.

It is very clear to me HOW and WHY he could lift NK like that with Kryptonite all around.

1. The shard was partially removed.

2. Superman flew into the sky, to what would become (IMO) the coolest scene in the film, to recharge and get as much strength as he could to do what was neccessary. Why do you think he flew so fast and hard into the ground? I'll tell you why, because he knew his time was limited.

I like Chris Reeve but not STM, and Smallville is alright too. But both of those adaptions seem irrelevant to me because of the dumb **** they have tried to pull off in those adaptions. (Ex. Reversing TIME and of course, reversing time)

 

[The Caped Knight]

When Lefting New Krypton, i could see Superman getting weaker & weaker {that's why he lefted it up slowly} He used all of his strenght to left all of New Krypton out of the ocean and into outer space.

for me that was a very powerful & emotional scene . It show SUPERMAN character. He was willing to give up his life to save his adopted home planet & Lois . From The destruction New Krypton was causing to Metropolis and if Lex's plan had worked The world .

 

[Superfreak]

I care. The title looks like the Kryptonite loves him or something..affection.

well, thanks for fixing it anyways.

 

[DOG LIPS]

It is very clear to me HOW and WHY he could lift NK like that with Kryptonite all around.

Yeah, I got it in the movie, it made sense, I was just saying other incarnations were more harmed by kryptonite is all, and probably wouldn't have been able to do that. Like for example, animated Supes was seriously sickened by a shard of it that one time. Remember that one time?

 

[Superfreak]

Yeah, I got it in the movie, it made sense, I was just saying other incarnations were more harmed by kryptonite is all, and probably wouldn't have been able to do that. Like for example, animated Supes was seriously sickened by a shard of it that one time. Remember that one time?

yeah, when he was fighting the giant robot dinosaur. 'A little peice of home'. One of my favorite epis. Especially how lois has to throw a 3 pointer so that the krypto falls into a lead cup... then Supes rips the dinosaurs head in half (like king kong did in Jackson's King Kong)... Wicked

 

[Bullsear]

I care. The title looks like the Kryptonite loves him or something..affection.

Actually, "affect" can be used in the case of an illness (or an internal attack). The "effects" of Kryptonite can be measured by how Superman was "affected." You're technically correct, but it has nothing to do with "affection" as your post implies.

 

[PunisherPoster]

George Reeves' and Tim Daly's Supermen were allowed to outsmart kryptonite traps, so I've never understood why the film versions are not.

Would it really have been so difficult to simply close the lid of a lead box? Or what about taking some kind of precaution before blindly flying into New Krypton? (The writers obviously realized this flaw, but just adding a throwaway line about "looking before you leap" hardly corrects it.)

Superman should've known anyone clever enough to rob the Fortress would also know about kryptonite. This is one point I have to concede to Ebert. The guy couldn't take some basic precautions- even with his super speed?

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

the whole lifting NK bothered me

once he breached the upper athmosphere he should've been fine, b/c the sun was on him at the same level of K, cancelling each other out

even with the tiny piece still in him, it was neglible as he was able to converse fine with lois, and fly up to recharge

and as soon as he threw NK into deep space, he should've been fine as:

a) his weakness to K, is locational; the farther it is, the better he feel. almost exponentially

b) if he's in space (out of our athmosphere) he'd be getting WAY more solar radiation than he was getting during his recharge, so his jesus-fall to earth was needless (other than forcing home some imagery )

 

[DorkyFresh]

i liked the way the kryptonite effected him in Superman Returns more than i did any other film/show. i never understood why kryptonite would HURT him unless it touched him. i never liked the idea of Superman being in pain just because kryptonite is a few feet away from him. i like that it instantly turns him into a regular person, but i don't like that it can kill him (unless he's in direct contact with it of course).

 

[Lurk]

Yellow Cyclone, I got the impression he pushed himself to the point of no return. He totally drained his power with the initial lifting, nearly killing himself. So, even though he then fell away from NK, distancing himself from the main Kryptonite source, he was unable to recharge due to such a brutal power-drain on top of having that shard preventing any "\S/uper-human" efforts to initiate recovery. Maybe he would have awoken as he was falling if it weren't for the shard; I thought that's what kept the "lights off" as it were.

 

[Eteric]

Yeah, him flying off with a small piece still stuck in him was a bit of a hole, but all in all it's still good.

Maybe a piece that size isn't enough to completely de-abilitate him?

Dunno.

I DO like the way it works though. It's kind of like radiation I guess.

 

[Superfreak]

i liked the way the kryptonite effected him in Superman Returns more than i did any other film/show. i never understood why kryptonite would HURT him unless it touched him. i never liked the idea of Superman being in pain just because kryptonite is a few feet away from him. i like that it instantly turns him into a regular person, but i don't like that it can kill him (unless he's in direct contact with it of course).

thing is, Kryptonite is radioactive. And getting hit with radiation, hurts

 

[Manhunter]

STM: Kryptonite makes superman instantly weak. It actually hurts him. The second he is exposed to kryptonite, he is totally debilitated. He can barely function. He can barely talk, and he definately can't swim. We assume it takes away his invulnerability, although it is never shown. He does not know about the kryptonite because it is hidden in a lead box.

Smallville: Same as STM, but it makes clark's veins pop out, and looks really painful. It also takes away his invulnerability. It's affects are also blocked by lead.

SR: Well, it seems he can't sense that the kryptonite is there and that it affects his invulnerability without him realizing it, so it doesn't cause pain if he's exposed to it from a distance (as he was on NK, an island made of kryptonite and rock, and the kryptonite was not hidden in some sort of lead container). However, it does cause damage to him, if it is in physical contact with him. It burns his hands when he is lifting NK. However, Kryptonite in SR is not debilitating like it is in STM, because he is still able to lift NK into space, even though he has a small shard of it still left in his side (taken out in the hospital).

Well he didn't notice it at first on NK, must be because it wasn't that saturated with Kryptonite. So we see that it has a delayed effect on Superman at this level of concentration.

Lois digs out most of the kryptonite, and before he lifts the kyptonite laced island he does two things. Superman charges up in the sun, a la Miller, boosting his power levels, then he uses heat vision to melt the bedrock under the island. It isn't until the island is completely out of the water before Superman's impromtu bedrock casing breaks away, and he has to deal with kryptonite again. So how does he overcome it long enough to get it from atmosphere to space? Willpower, if he fails, billions will die. Of course the result of this herculean effort almost cost him his life, so it wasn't easy for him to do by any means.

In the comic books, Superman can ignore kryptonite for a brief period if he really needs to, hell in a few years he'll absorb enough solar energy to be immune to it. I guess that's why Singer's climax worked for me.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

I haven´t seen the movie yet, but the more i read about it, the more flaws i see
Nothing that i wasn´t expecting....

Well he didn't notice it at first on NK, must be because it wasn't that saturated with Kryptonite. So we see that it has a delayed effect on Superman at this level of concentration.

A single shard of Kryptonite will kill him, so, the "wasn´t saturated" doesn´t cut it.

Superman charges up in the sun, a la Miller, boosting his power levels....So how does he overcome it long enough to get it from atmosphere to space? Willpower, if he fails, billions will die. Of course the result of this herculean effort almost cost him his life, so it wasn't easy for him to do by any means.

To charge in the sun is totally irrelevant here.
To charge in the sun would instantly cure him from Kryptonite poisoning, not give him enough energy to withstand the effects of Kryptonite, because, the moment he is in range of the rock´s radius, he would begin to feel the effects and all energy would be drained in minutes.
Willpower......the effects of the K rock are physical, not psychological.
No matter how much willpower Superman has, it would never be enough to lift an ALL CONTINENT.

In the comic books, Superman can ignore kryptonite for a brief period if he really needs to, hell in a few years he'll absorb enough solar energy to be immune to it.

Superman will NEVER be immune to Kryptonite, no matter how powerful he can still became (which is none).
The only way for that to happen is for him not be Kryptonian...guess what, he is

 

[Agentdemon]

Willpower......the effects of the K rock are physical, not psychological.
No matter how much willpower Superman has, it would never be enough to lift an ALL CONTINENT.

The physical body and psyche will always be intertwined so you can never ignore one aspect, especially with Superman. One of the reasons IMO that superman is so loved and popular is his ability in overcome almost all situations even when it looks impossible.

In the film, Superman realized that new krypton would cause the earth damage the more it grew and billions of lives were in danger, this fact was all Superman needed to lift the island even with kryptonite imbedded within it. Oh and it showed that while superman was lifting the continent, his hands were deteriating from K poisen.

 

[user123456789]

Yellow Cyclone, I got the impression he pushed himself to the point of no return. He totally drained his power with the initial lifting, nearly killing himself. So, even though he then fell away from NK, distancing himself from the main Kryptonite source, he was unable to recharge due to such a brutal power-drain on top of having that shard preventing any "\S/uper-human" efforts to initiate recovery. Maybe he would have awoken as he was falling if it weren't for the shard; I thought that's what kept the "lights off" as it were.

agreed

 

[kal-el2006]

i also want to point out that..when he went up the sun there wasnt any krpytonite in him..(loiis pulled it out the first time) it was the second time of the krpytonite that cut him as he lifted nk up...see pic...which led to the doc takin it out