Arrow The Emily Bett Rickards/ Felicity Smoak Thread

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  1. Mask&Cape Registered

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    Both Arrow and The Flash need to show something of all of the characters lives outside of the heroics.

    We need to see how being the secret life gets in the way of Barry or Curtis' day job or Diggle's time with his family.

    Even Iris - most of her scenes has her in Star Labs. She doesn't even do anything and it might help her character if we see her being an actual journalist.

    The producers really should have spent the early episodes of this season showing Oliver (and Felicity) trying to balance being mayor (and whatever) with the crimefighting and dealing Church on their own. Wild Dog, Ragman and Artemis would still have appeared but the team could have come together slowly.
     
  2. metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    The showrunners do seem to be bad at running any "ordinary life" subplot that doesn't revolve entirely around secret ID drama.
     
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    And yet, the show runner don't seem to able to manage the concept of secret identities - so many people know Oliver's, Barry's and Kara's secret that I don't understand why they bother with the masks. :oldrazz:
     
  4. metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    Not concealing your secret from your closest friends is hardly a problem. The problem is that the writers think that every friend and associate's life ends the moment they find out. Nobody is allowed to know about the hero, and continue to do stuff unrelated to the hero.
     
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    [YT]rVpIi2GOpy4[/YT]
     
  6. Dr Lee Insert interesting quote here

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    She's got a great voice
     
  7. Primal Slayer Let the Siren scream

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  8. Syncos ROFLICIOUS

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    There was a throwaway line when she was trapped in the bunker about Felicity having a rather large severance from Palmertech. Implying that she's been living off of that.
     
  9. Jedi Arrow Vigilant Knight

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    Ah. Makes sense? Perhaps some sort of severance from QC is what Oliver has been living on all this time? :oldrazz:
     
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    That her actual singing voice? She damn good!
     
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    My feeling about Emily:

    I didn't know at the time when she first signed on, that Felicity was going to be only in 1-2 episodes at least.


    Rickards is heading into her 6th season of Arrow. So to only play a role that should've lasted for 2 episodes at least, instead she ends up being the love interest to the leading man of Arrow, it just shows that Rickards genuinely earned it,
     
  14. Dr Lee Insert interesting quote here

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    Season 1 & 2 proves that she is a very funny actress.... but she (and the whole show, which is why I've stopped watching but still follow)) was given horrendously bad writing to use and that's harmed her in the opinions of the fans...
     
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    Ya, she did a nice job - the exceptional on-screen chemistry she had with the lead actor pretty much set her up for a ton of success, there.

    Agreed on the writing. Starting around mid-season 4 for me, the writers have not been doing a good job with her character. Show has lost ~1M viewers since mid-season 4 and the end of season 5. Some writers need to get bounced and replaced, IMO.
     
  16. Syncos ROFLICIOUS

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    Yes, absolutely. Season 1 & 2 proved that she was very well suited to the role of sidekick. tech solutions, witty banter, etc.

    As soon as she pulled focus as the love interest, and they started writing the episodes as though it was the Felicity show featuring Oliver, that's when things started to fall apart.
     
  17. Dr Lee Insert interesting quote here

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    I don't think it was that they pulled the trigger on the onscreen chemistry between EBR & Amell. 'Olicity' worked when there was humour, when things were fun... but TPTB decided that they had to smother it in angst.... and (the bit that ended my viewing) angst for angst sake... they changed the characters to fit the scene, rather than make the scene work for the characters.

    Had they kept the humour, kept the fun-ness of the duo, then 90% of the hatred towards EBR, 'Olicity' & Felicity wouldn't have appeared.
     
  18. Primal Slayer Let the Siren scream

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    I love EBR and for the most part like Felicity. I just hate that they made them so central to the show which made Laurel and to an extent obsolete especially in the case of "OTA"
     
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    I agree with Dr Lee, Oliver and Felicity were good together until the writers kept inserting annoying, needless melodramatic situations into their relationship, this is an issue with the CW shows in general, they did it to Barry and Iris and even with Alex and Maggie, they put them together and then almost every week they shoehorned some kind of issue into their relationship to force an argument and then a reconciliation, the writers on the CW shows seem to have no idea how to write a happy, mature relationship.

    What is OTA?
     
  20. Primal Slayer Let the Siren scream

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    Original Team Arrow. Oliver/Diggle/Felicity.

    What they used to shut down Laurel back in Season 2 when she tried to join them.
     
  21. Hunter Rider Ronin

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    Gotcha, so did you want it to be Green Arrow and Black Canary without Team Arrow?
     
  22. Primal Slayer Let the Siren scream

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    I'm fine with them being one big happy team, I didn't need it to be strictly GA/BC.
     
  23. metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    Thing is, Season2 Laurel was *not* Black Canary. She wasn't even a sympathetic ally. She was basically a particularly unlikable antagonist.
     
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    Say what you will about S2 Laurel, but the Laurel from the last three episodes of S2 was my favorite Laurel. She may have been an unlikeable drunk who treated most of the team like crap for a lot of the season, but after she started making amends with Sara she got better, and from the time Slade revealed Oliver's identity as the Arrow through the rest of the season, she was really a fantastic character. She gets too much flak in her S2 arc–she was supposed to be antagonistic. It was a very realistic depiction of a grieving, depressed addict whose life was falling apart. Of course she lashed out–but she only would have been unlikeable if she hadn't snapped out of it. She did.
     
  25. Primal Slayer Let the Siren scream

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    That really doesn't have anything to do with it. They practically said "you aren't one of us so you can't sit with us" It is one of those things that kept the division in the show and made it harder to integrate Laurel into the team.
     

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