The first Crow

Positively. :up: Brandon Lee is one of my favorite action movie stars ever. I'm sorry to see the Crow series die with him, but in a way, I'm glad. Because nobody could ever do it the way Brandon did.

...Well, I'm sure SOMEBODY could, but the people in Hollywood sure aren't looking in the right places.
 
Yes, the original one was pretty damned good. I need to get it on DVD.

I haven't seen any of the others, except for the ending of the one with Edward Furlong, and it was pretty damned horrible.

But I've always been a fan of the original.

Question though - which was the scene which Lee was actually killed in? I've always heard that it was the scene where he was like, running across the table with all the thugs shooting at him, but recently somebody told me that was wrong, just a common myth, that it was another scene.

:huh:
 
No, remember that flashback scene where he comes in the apartment, and someone shoots him? I think it was Funboy. They were blocking that scene and apparently, something like a piece of metal got lodged in one of the guns.
 
The Crow is a classic revenge tale. And a personal favorite of mine.
 
The first was a great movie. But that isn't it though, the second one gets past on the fact that the studio screwed it over so much. I really like the first two and those were the best of the franchise.
 
Yes, the original one was pretty damned good. I need to get it on DVD.

I haven't seen any of the others, except for the ending of the one with Edward Furlong, and it was pretty damned horrible.

But I've always been a fan of the original.

Question though - which was the scene which Lee was actually killed in? I've always heard that it was the scene where he was like, running across the table with all the thugs shooting at him, but recently somebody told me that was wrong, just a common myth, that it was another scene.

:huh:
Believe he was killed during the rape scene. After he gets hit with the knife,and he gets up and they hold him then gets shot. Think thats were he was killed..Not positive,but think thats were it was if I remembered right...Though that scene could be right also,as Ive heard they filmed majority of scenes that contained BL in makeup first to get out of the way,and since he died pretty early in production they used cgi/body doubles to finish...

Kindof weird knowing they used CGI to finish up the film along with 'body doubles' to finish the movie...Think there is a website or something that tells which parts are copy/paste of BL face and which are his body doubles(which happen to be stunt men/brandon's friends).
First Crow is a classic imo,second wasn't bad,but others blew balls..They should of followed the comics and did a female crow then japenese one,but studio decided they were just gonna F'up the franchise...
 
Believe he was killed during the rape scene. After he gets hit with the knife,and he gets up and they hold him then gets shot. Think thats were he was killed..Not positive,but think thats were it was if I remembered right...Though that scene could be right also,as Ive heard they filmed majority of scenes that contained BL in makeup first to get out of the way,and since he died pretty early in production they used cgi/body doubles to finish...

Kindof weird knowing they used CGI to finish up the film along with 'body doubles' to finish the movie...Think there is a website or something that tells which parts are copy/paste of BL face and which are his body doubles(which happen to be stunt men/brandon's friends).
First Crow is a classic imo,second wasn't bad,but others blew balls..They should of followed the comics and did a female crow then japenese one,but studio decided they were just gonna F'up the franchise...

was there a female crow?
 
^Apparently, in the comics.

Brandon Lee died in the scene when he walked into his apartment.
That's why the scene when he walked into the apartment was in first person point of view. The thug's gun was loaded, and they didn't know that there was an actual bullet in the chamber.
 
From Wipikedia and Brandon Lee's biography:

Death

On March 31, 1993, there were eight days left before the shooting schedule for The Crow was to be completed. The scene being filmed on this day involved Lee's character Eric Draven walking into his apartment and discovering his girlfriend being raped by thugs. This would subsequently lead to Eric being brutally killed, along with his girlfriend, by the thugs. Actor Michael Massee, playing Funboy, one of the film's villains, was supposed to fire a gun at Lee as he walked into his apartment with groceries.

Because the movie's second unit team were running behind schedule, it was decided that dummy cartridges—cartridges that outwardly appear to be functional, but contain no gunpowder—would be made from real cartridges. A cartridge with only a primer and a bullet was fired in the pistol prior to the scene Brandon was in, it caused a squib load, in which the primer provided enough force to push the bullet out of the cartridge and into the barrel of the revolver, where it became stuck.

The malfunction went unnoticed by the crew, and the same gun was used again later to shoot the death scene, having been re-loaded with blanks. However, the squib load was still lodged in the barrel, and was propelled by the blank cartridge's explosion out of the barrel and into Lee's body. Although the bullet was traveling much slower than a normally fired bullet would be, the bullet's large size and the nearly point-blank firing distance made it powerful enough to mortally wound Lee. It was not instantly recognized by the crew or other actors; they believed he was still acting.

His funeral was held several days later; he was buried next to his father in Lake View Cemetery, Capitol Hill, Seattle, Washington. The following day, a memorial service was held in Los Angeles, California. Jeff Imada, Lee's closest friend; and Eliza Hutton, Lee's intended bride, were so shocked they couldn't speak, while his mother, Linda Lee, reminded everyone, "Brandon would want this to be a happy occasion; we are here to celebrate his life." The footage of the incident was soon destroyed without ever being developed.

The shooting was ruled as an accident, although many fans suspected foul play. (Bruce Lee's own death in 1973, at the age of 32, apparently from a reaction to an analgesic he had taken, was also considered suspicious.) Bruce Lee's character in the 1978 version of Game of Death is shot in a similar fashion. His character, like that of his son in The Crow, returns from the dead to get revenge on his adversaries.

Some fans also suspected that Lee's death was all part of the theory of the curse which was also suspected when Lee's father died. The tragic circumstances surrounding Lee's death also eerily mirrored what had happened to his father as Lee had died nearly 20 years after his father; both deaths were very mysterious and Brandon would also die before the release of a film that would have been his breakthrough role.
 
And the scenes that were filled in:

After his death, his fiancée Eliza Hutton and his mother supported director Alex Proyas' decision to complete The Crow. At the time of Lee's death, only eight days were left before completion of the movie. A majority of the film had already been completed with Lee and only a few scenes had to be done.

To complete the film, a stunt double (Chad Stahelski), who was a friend of Lee's at the famed Inosanto Academy was used as a stand-in and special effects were used to add Lee's face onto the stunt double. Another stunt double named Jeff Cadiente was also used to complete the movie (Cadiente was already Brandon Lee's stunt double on The Crow and they were also good friends). These scenes were filmed after Lee's death:

* Eric Draven's death in flashbacks (this was the scene Brandon was filming at the time he had died);

* a scene with Eric walking into his apartment after returning from the dead was digitally composited from a scene of Lee walking into an alleyway with raindrops added (the rest of the scenes in the apartment were all done with the double);

* Lee's face was digitally composited onto the stunt double when Eric puts on make-up in front of a mirror and walks towards the broken down window of his apartment;

* When Sarah (Rochelle Davis) visits Eric, his face is not seen as it is actually the stunt double.

* When Eric Draven plays his guitar on the rooftops it is one of Brandon Lee's body doubles.

* During T-Bird's demise Eric Draven does not speak, nor is his face shown; the close-up of Draven's face was from a deleted shot.

* After the shootout at Top Dollar's the scene where Eric Draven is running on the rooftops from the police was filmed with a double and his escape in Officer Albrecht (Ernie Hudson)'s car.

The Crow was released in May 1994 and became a box office hit. The film is dedicated to Lee and his fiancée Eliza Hutton. They were to have been married on April 17, 1993, in Mexico. Lee is survived by his mother and sister.





And yes there was a female Crow in THE CROW: FLESH & BLOOD trade.
 
was there a female crow?

Yup,was a female crow;believe her name was Iris in comic. Was actually one of the better ones besides original imo.....Maybe in future they will do another,but highly unlikely. Disney owns the rights as of now, and I really can't see them doing one. Not sure when the rights revert back to O'barr or whatever comics owns it(think Darkhorse???). Heh, I even tried emailing Disney about it,but no reply...
 
I'm a fan of the first film as well; regarding the sequels, I hated City of Angels (demonic much?!), and avoided Wicked Prayer once I read about the storyline.

I did, however, like most of the third entry, "Salvation". The scenes in the strip club and a few of the gorier scenes should have been cut IMO, but on the whole I'd give the original a 9/10, and "Salvation" a 7/10.

I've been very fortunate to have met the original comic's creator, James O'Barr, several times over the last few years. You can find a scan of a custom sketch I got from him, at this link.
 
The last Crow film was by far the worst. I really couldn't believe how awful the series had gotten after sequel after sequel. Prefer, 1, 2, and 3 myself and the TV series pilot despite the changes made: STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN.

Dark Horse picked up the rights to the Crow comics, but the original comic was made by Kitchen Sink Press I believe.

The rights to the movie series belong to Dimension Films.
 
Actually, James O'Barr first published "The Crow" with the now-defunct Caliber Comics; the company was formed by a former employer he worked for, as a T-shirt artist during medical school.
 
Actually, James O'Barr first published "The Crow" with the now-defunct Caliber Comics; the company was formed by a former employer he worked for, as a T-shirt artist during medical school.

Ah thanks on that one. I must have one of the reprint editions. Third I believe.
 
Oh as for Wicked Prayer, the novel was a much better read then the movie. It's without a question one of the best CROW novels published. That was actually one of the reasons I was so displeased with the film.
 

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