The Flash Season 5 Episode 10: "The Flash and the Furious"

Maybe, but ultimately, who would care? Heck, it's even unlikely that the characters would even care at this point, let alone us.

Honestly, the moment Flashpoint wrapped up, we should have been given the original [Earth 1] Harrison Wells. As far as I can gather, he should be alive and well right now. If we're ever going to have a reoccurring Harrison Wells on the team, it needs to be him.

It was stated in the episode that he was visiting family.

Reina Hardesty.

 

Yeah, the issue is that Cisco wasn't the target of Cicada. Vibe was. Cicada is just only going after people who are obviously metahumans.

Eh, he said he wanted a normal life. All he has to do is not use his powers and stay out of the superhero game. Even then, his life won't be normal if he still sticks with working behind the scenes for Team Flash.

Nah, it's just BS the writers came up with because they didn't have a better idea of what to do with Cisco to create some kind of dramatic storyline for him. I mean, powers or not, he's already a target just by virtue of being on Team Flash. This is like the nonsense they're doing on Supergirl about her secret ID and why she has one.

Yep.

 

Nora got caught in her lie about being stuck in the present, and she's still lying (by omission) about Thawne, so I wonder what else she might be lying about. The newspaper article could be from her future instead of her original time, since time travel is so easy for her.

Giving Nora's powers unhealthy side effects would tie her story to the meta-cure and the right-to-choose plot thread.

 

Yeah, especially since having Bart around for that story now would mean bringing another speedster onto the show.

 

Eh, I don't see the writers lying about her age. That would be giving them too much credit, for me. But, that's just me. I mean, we already can see she's not the original daughter Barry and Iris were supposed to have, but Eobard's actions changed that. I don't think there's any more that needs to be added unless they want to make the story more convoluted than it already is.

 

If Team Flash did create a cure, chances of them forcing it on Thawne (or at least them having the discussion about whether they should?)

 

I think all things will be explained, seems like sherlock there is trying to piece everything together with nora, the symbols, ect.

the fact that thawne looks like wells and not thawne himself is a question unanswered yet.

thawne didn't look like wells until he lost his speed going back in time to kill nora, when he realized his speed was unstable and couldn't return home he devised the plan to take over wells body/look to get barry to receive his powers alot sooner than in his timeline so that thawne could return home.

so the fact nora is talking to thawne who looks like wells, changes alot of things in terms of who this thawne version is and by nora coming to see her dad was it part of a master plan, ect...we'll have to wait and see how it plays out.

remember when barry beat thawne after eddie sacraficed himself he was himself not wells, thawne then went on to play on legends as himself, so this version of thawne still resembling wells even moreso from the future makes no sense to barry's timelines because thawne wasn't wells in the future he was wells during the time he wanted barry to get his speed and help him return home while pretending to be wells looking like him, until later he reveals his true identity,

 

Thinking about it...

Thawne came back in time and disguised himself as Wells in order to get back home. Here, he was initially killed (or rather, erased) by Eddie sacrificing his life. Fast forward, Barry saved his Mom, captured Thawne, and created Flashpoint. That Thawne never took on the appearance of Wells because he never needed too - Barry helped him return home.

At some point after that, Thawne (for reasons unknown) again chose to mimic Wells (although from the perspective of this Thawne, it would have been his first time mimicking Wells); a person who he'd otherwise have had no reason to mimic and we had the events of the Earth X Crisis. Here, Barry foolishly let Thawne go, and (presumably) it's this Thawne that's now stuck in the future.

The problem (or rather, irregularity) revolves around why Earth X Thawne resembled Wells when he simply didn't need too. If he's had the technology to morph at will (as he seemingly has) then he'd have had that technology to change himself back in the future, or, in the future, those containing him would simply use the technology to revert him back themselves.

As mentioned above, it's got to be something to do with Tom already being on set, and it's just easier for everyone involved. There's honestly no other logical reason behind it. Writers have wrote Tom into the role again simply because it's convenient, the problem is, Tom isn't remotely convincing in that role anymore.

 

I thought it was a good episode. Whether Thrawn looks like Tom or Matt doesn't needle me at all, esp as I still think Cavanaugh still plays him well.

I think the teaching moment for Nora is going to bite her in the behind when Wells finally puts whatever plan he has into play.

I can see Cisco flirting with the idea of a meta-cure, something similar to that infamous scene in the X-Men. Certainly it is something that could be used against convicted meta-criminals, esp the really powerful ones who would be more easily detained without their powers.

Can also see Caitlyn's side, as she has reached peace with her alter-ego and I would say that she considers Frost to be more like a sister than just an alternate personality. The 'cure' would pretty much mean that Frost would be dead for all intent and purpose if she were ever given it.
I did like how easy her transition between Caityln and Frost are becoming. I would really like Frost to interact a lot more with the other cast.
And I really wish they would drop the Killer from the Frost title already.

As to the car, I thought it was an okay plot.
I did read that some fan-theories are that it could become the new Batmobile for Kate. A super car stuffed with weapons, able to go invisible and loaded to the bumpers with Wayne-tech... Personally, I hope not. I'm just biased from all the cool, wicked looking Batmobiles from over the years to want more than just a suped-up muscle car lit with neon blue no matter how hot it looks in daylight.
Give me something low and sinister, black as night and with sharp fins!

 

Call her Chiller Frost. It sounds almost phonetically the same.

 

I like that!

 

As do I, they'd be perfectly fine just going with Frosty. Throwing Killer in front implies that she's a bad character/person that has murderous tendencies, which simply isn't the case an longer.

Honestly, for a Wayne car, it looked far too retro; which I get because who'd suspect, but if Kate gets a vehicle, I do hope it's something better than that.

 

Got to give credit to writers after the first 5-10 minutes I thought we were getting another by the numbers excuse to take Barry out and have Nora take the lead. (they've done it a few times already)

But credit where credit's due they changed it in to more than that and in the end have at the least planted the seeds for XS to have her very own personal villain with the potential for change like Barry had with Snart.

Only one I found a little less exiting was the key meta, they gave her less personality than a pineapple and the explanation for her power could have just been thrown and went "BECAUSE SCIENCE!" and it would have had the same effect on me lol.

Not even going to venture a guess in to the Thawne stuff as not really been enough for me to go off yet.