The Flash Season 5 episode 14: Cause and XS

No it wouldn't. Cicada can control where the dagger lands. Considering in the end, Ralph, Cisco, and Caitlin entered from another way, yet the dagger was STILL going to hit Ralph. Telling them to duck would be pointless.

 

Episode is okay so far. I didn't know who Cicada was before this season, I don't recall ever seeing him on a animated show. I don't care for Nora, so I was glad she continued to fail, but why didn't a time wrath come after her. Shame the show threw Wally to the side/ Legends. He might be some help to Nora.

 

Never going to happen, we all know the CW DC formula by now. They like big cast of characters and they all need to be different with their side stories. They could have sent Dibney to LEgends with the other sidekicks. We are always going to have a Wells, don't need Cait if Cisco is around and vice a versa pick one. Iris could have been a Lois Lane but they really wanted to involve her in the team by making her lead. I would have preferred Wally stay as the 2nd speedster instead of continuing to get new ones, XS is lame.

 

How did Iris know that Nora went back in time? And when did all these other times happen that made it to 52 times? Nora went into the speed force after Cecille was killed. Then it cut to Iris being able to discern what happened.

They could've shown a speeded up montage to show Nora repeatedly failing.

And why couldn't Killer Frost ambush Cicada in Iris's apartment before he even threw his dagger?

 

That scene where they were constantly dying and she was running made up the 52 times. That was the montage. Iris knew because they were all in the room together probably discussed how weird Nora was acting. She was frantic each time, saying what they would say before it was said. Cisco knew after the 3rd time something was weird since he gets visions of events when vibing. Nora left her notebook to and continued to update each time so one look at it they would know.

 

I can’t help but laugh at how some of these actors run in some of these scenes.

These writers and their love of 52.

I didn’t really understand how they “beat” Cicada this time, but whatever. I don’t care anymore.

They also need to stop screwing around and just have Sherloque finally know what’s up with Nora.

Too bad we didn’t see Cisco like break dancer...

 

What scene was there where they were constantly drying? I don't remember that? I remember her running into the speed force but not them dying.

 

That did baffle me during that episode where Cisco vibed it into space. Why not just vibe it onto a different Earth? Preferably one where there's no life. Cicada may be able to recall the dagger from orbit. Pretty sure he can't recall it from another Earth within the multiverse.

This is never going to be the case though. No show is about a singular hero anymore, and it was never really going to be. There came a point where Arrow added Diggle/Spartan and then the rest of the team. Barry wasn't on his own for long. Even Supergirl has Alex, John & Brainy behind her.

I think the single focus works well in film, because you've only got something for 90 - 180 minutes, and it's a self contained story. With a tv series that stretches on for 22/23 episodes, you're never going to be able to focus on just one hero. I'm less annoyed by the team, and more frustrated at how involved Iris has become.

 

She's the all-seeing Iris.

 

There's only one solution.

 

If she becomes Vibe as well, that looks pretty much like the wormholes that Cisco opens.

She could also become XS, because there's already too much excess.

 

At this point, I'm surprised she's not running the CCPD alongside Mercury Labs all whilst having a part time job at Jitters.

 

No, it wouldn't. Telling them the dagger is already in the air makes them aware that the danger is there. Without any 'hobbling' a Speedster aware of the dagger being in motion should be able to avoid it, as well as get others out of the way. But, since this is the CW, they will continue to hobble the heroes in order to plot-armor the villains and keep them around for the alloted number of episodes.

Plus, warning your friends is just something you do.

An elegant solution that we either will not see, or be completely surprised by them (CW) actually doing something logical as a solution!

 

The ultimate problem with this show is that you need movie level FX every week to properly represent super speed as it should be deployed. Since they can't, the constant lengths to which they hamstring speedsters each week forcing other solutions are really lame.

They are also paring down casts on all these shows either on purpose or by the actors' choices which was long overdue.

 

How do we know she's not?

Maybe the reason Barry disappeared in the future is because he was absorbed into Iris as he wasn't necessary to be the Flash? Although that kind of makes her sound like Devoe, if she weren't already seeming that way with taking on everyone else's roles.

On another note, was Grant Gustin doing something else this week that he barely played and they decided to focus on Nora instead?

 

On this, I'd agree. It's a catch 22 situation though. On the one hand, the more characters you've got, the more filler episodes and sub plots you can introduce (which honestly, is needed for many of the CW shows). If the show focuses too much on one or two characters, they're going to run out of plot, or the viewers will just become bored.

Maybe Barry disappeared because he simply couldn't take it anymore? He needed to escape from Iris, and so literally ran away.

I figured this episode, and the other one we had the other week were filmed when Grant was away, either for his wedding, or honeymoon, so the shows with him were filmed before/after, whilst the rest of the episode was filmed without him. Episodes aren't always filmed and aired in the same order.​

 

Wouldn't surprised me at all that he'd do a runner.

Did he get married recently?

Didn't Katie Cassidy as well? Maybe they got married to each other.

 

He did, yeah, though not to Katie Cassidy. Grants wedding was back in December. I'm unsure when their honeymoon was though, likely over Christmas or early January. I follow Grant on Instagram (I don't follow Katie) and he [they] posted a few pictures of their big day.

 

I don't follow any of the Arrowverse actors on Instagram apart from Amy Jackson, and she hasn't posted anything of note lately. I don't check Instagram all that often though. Oh, Amy Pemberton is another one, but her Instagram is rather boring. Don't know why I even follow it.

 

You call that acting?

 

I only watch her for the view.

 

Why would employed actors get married during their seasons forcing limited storylines for their characters? They get much of April through July off. Have June weddings.

 

Because then it's like teachers being ill during their school break and ruining their vacation instead of during term time.

 

One reason is that time off from one job is a chance to do other work. There's no long-term job security in acting, so extra income is good, and actors on multi-year series may be concerned about being typecast.

 

The scene right after Cecile dies, she is running you see it. Those scenes are not her past failures it is a montage that makes it the 52.