The Friday The 13th Movies Thread - Part 2

[TX85]

I used to like Uber Jason but then I realized how cheap and plastic looking the metal looked

 

[Wildcard]

I liked Uber Jason for a while too...until I realized he looked too much like a damn Power Rangers villain.

If you're going to try to update Jason's design, probably better to go with a more Savini-esque route instead of making him half cyborg.

 

[StarLord]

Ah c,mon Freddy vs Jason wasn't that bad! ... Alright it probably was but I enjoyed it at the theather as a teenager and still overall do. Definetly has it's shameful flaws but it's a quilty pleasure of mine even though even I have it low on my list

I was 17 when it came out and I didn't care for it then.

I preferred the (and I hate to use this word) ''serious'' versions of both characters before they became punchlines in their latter movies. It was almost a spoof, IMO.

 

[Wildcard]

FVJ was far from being a spoof if you actually analyze it. In fact, when comparing it to the later installments of the NOES franchise excluding New Nightmare, Freddy is taken 100% more seriously in FVJ than those entries. Freddy's Dead and Jason X better qualify as spoofs/parodies. Well, imo, anyway.

 

[TX85]

Freddy in FvJ was at his most dark and serious since Freddy's Revenge with some shades of Dream Warriors Freddy but no where near as much as Dream Masters/Dream Child and Freddy's Dead.

The only Jason punchline in FvJ was when he was looking at his missing fingers for a second or two

 

[Broseph44]

The whole end battle of FvJ is just ****in great. So bloody and violent, always a ton of fun to watch.

 

[Wildcard]

Hell yeah! And I like that it was a back and forth battle where Freddy was able to believably hold his own while taking Jason to the absolute limit.

One thing that's always amused me the most about the fight, though, is how long it takes Freddy's damn hat to finally fall off.

 

[righthooksrus86]

There's always something fun about two badass big screen icons going head to head in a movie...it's like Deadpool vs Wolverine.

 

[Wildcard]

Not to get too off-center but oh God...could you imagine the amount of blood that would ensue from such a confrontation? It'd likely put FVJ's end battle to shame. No easy task, certainly.

 

[righthooksrus86]

haha yea it'd be hilarious.

 

[TX85]

Such a damn shame we never got Winter Jason/Crystal Lake!

 

[TX85]

 

[The Joker]

Probably because nobody goes out camping in winter.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

Probably because nobody goes out camping in winter.

Not exactly true. For the last 5 years my wife and 10-12 other women all rent a cabin out in the woods every March or April in Ohio. March may not necessarily be winter in some areas but in the Pennsylvania/Ohio area it's still cold and we're still getting snow during that month. It's freakin May now and we're still only getting high temps of 51-54 degrees lol.

 

[TX85]

Probably because nobody goes out camping in winter.

Plenty of people rent cabins and go to a lake during winter. Final Chapter or New Blood could have easily used a winter setting

 

[The Joker]

Not exactly true. For the last 5 years my wife and 10-12 other women all rent a cabin out in the woods every March or April in Ohio. March may not necessarily be winter in some areas but in the Pennsylvania/Ohio area it's still cold and we're still getting snow during that month. It's freakin May now and we're still only getting high temps of 51-54 degrees lol.

Plenty of people rent cabins and go to a lake during winter. Final Chapter or New Blood could have easily used a winter setting

Fair points.

I just don't imagine the teens of these movies renting cabins in the Crystal Lake area in winter.

 

[BH/HHH]

I agree with the Joker in that it would be a stretch to have teens to go Camp Crystal Lake to camp in the winter. You'd have to do something different for the winter setting. Not sure what mind, maybe scientists? Students on assignment? Who knows.

Edit: I should have read a few more above before posting. I guess people could go up to a cabin or two.

 

[BH/HHH]

I keep thinking with Friday the 13th they should aim to do a new trilogy. I think the days of doing Friday the 13th films as 1 a year are over so doing 3 films over say a 7 year period would be best way to go.

They don't need to be tightly connected by one character (like Tommy Jarvis for example) but they could be, although I think a better way to connect the films together would be by the Camp itself remaining the same location/set (but gradually the Camp deteriorates through the 3 films). Also there could be recurring characters in small roles over 3 films like local towns people been the same in every film and a Crazy Ralph type character. On the people of Crystal Lake (and it's nearby town), they could become more aware of Jason as the films go on and this changes the feel. You can also have the previous films be vague history (sorry to use a Bryan Singer buzz word). That way you can say it's a sequel or it's not but really you're rebooting.

So I'd do:

1st film - Campers reopen Crystal Lake (like the original), they believe the legend of Pamela's decapitation and Jason's resurrection to be that of legend and folklore.

2nd film - the Camp is closed for good, teens go to a nearby cabin and go looking for the Camp. Jason doesn't like people entering his wilderness as we know.

3rd film, teens come looking for the Camp again this time its back Summer. You can also have a redo of the epic Friday the 13th Part 2 campfire scene in this one. The final girl in this gives Jason a definite death, maybe decapitation or something.

Then you wait 5 years or so and do a new or even a duology. But just keep the budgets low as possible, market it with new merchandise and they have already missed the boat on this year but with a game etc.

I'd do the exact same with Halloween and A Nightmare on Elm Street aswell.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I agree with the Joker in that it would be a stretch to have teens to go Camp Crystal Lake to camp in the winter. You'd have to do something different for the winter setting. Not sure what mind, maybe scientists? Students on assignment? Who knows.

Edit: I should have read a few more above before posting. I guess people could go up to a cabin or two.

I personally don't think it'd be hard to come up with a believable reason for a Winter film. People lived around Crystal Lake before like in Part 4. Every plot line doesn't have to be vacationing teens. What if it's Grandma's funeral, and so the son of a family and his girlfriend, and the daughter of the family and her boyfriend, come home to their parents house. Meanwhile, a couple teens that are staying in a cabin are attacked, and one eventually flees toward the family home, where Jason begins stalking them. Instead of him cutting phone lines and power, you could easily have the power outages be by a large snow storm coming.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Don't use teens for a winter film. Use a SWAT team that sent in to take him down. Then they get taken out one by one. Make it more action oriented like Predator.

 

[BH/HHH]

Don't use teens for a winter film. Use a SWAT team that sent in to take him down. Then they get taken out one by one. Make it more action oriented like Predator.

Eh that sounds awful to me, I could have seen that in the 90s with Kane Hodders Jason but Friday the 13th and Jason work best when it's a bit more grounded IMO.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Eh that sounds awful to me, I could have seen that in the 90s with Kane Hodders Jason but Friday the 13th and Jason work best when it's a bit more grounded IMO.

Yeah, but Jason isn't grounded... at all. He may not have become a zombie until part 6, but he's always been ridiculous.

I want to see them put him up against people that are an actual threat to him. It doesn't need to be explosions and one-liners like Predator, but watching him butcher teenagers for 30 years has gotten stale. If the next film is just Friday 2009 again, what's the point? This aspect of the property is why this property is in shambles. Nobody knows what to do with it and nobody wants to take any risks.

 

[TX85]

The 2009 remake could have been in winter. It could have been explained that the rich *****e and his friends were on winter break and wanted to spend the holidays alone together and so the summer home was available for them.

The other characters could have been that the dude wanted his sister home for christmas or before the year ends and so he decides to finally look for himself

 

[TX85]

Yeah, but Jason isn't grounded... at all. He may not have become a zombie until part 6, but he's always been ridiculous.

I want to see them put him up against people that are an actual threat to him. It doesn't need to be explosions and one-liners like Predator, but watching him butcher teenagers for 30 years has gotten stale. If the next film is just Friday 2009 again, what's the point? This aspect of the property is why this property is in shambles. Nobody knows what to do with it and nobody wants to take any risks.

I agree. My favorite part of JGTH besides the ending is the beginning with a swat team confronting Jason and my favorite part of Jason X is the beginning with him held at a government facility before he takes everyone out.

There are comics with government agents and special ops teams that try to capture Jason so they study him and are especially interested in his healing factor. They use civilian counselors at crystal lake as bait and it all works great

 

[Octoberist]

Come on guys. Has no one thought of a ski resort during the winter nearby the campsite? It's close enough that a bunchsnowboarding teens (who probably heard rumors decide to head over to the lake to check out the 'rumors' of Jason, etc.)