The Full List of "Crimes" Committed by Fox's Tom Rothman

[Sawyer]

Wait wait wait.... Rothman's got a hand in Fox tv now too?! Does that include shows on FX? If that mother****er lays one finger on It's Always Sunny, I'll break his knees.

 

[Darkness Falls]

yea lsm rothman's in charge of fox tv

i agree with you about i'ts always sunny,
in fact i'll hold him for ya while you break his knees

 

[Timstuff]

How did that dipstick manage to get a promotion? The only thing he's done in his career is help ensure that Fox remains at the VERY bottom-tier of the major studios.

I am disappointed that Dragonball is getting such bad reviews. Even now, I'm thinking in my head "these people have GOT to be exagerrating, there's no way they could spend 100 million on a movie if it's THAT BAD!" But then again, this is Fox. They seem to have a knack for taking your already low expectations, and then shooting even lower.

On the bright side, look at it this way: Fox blew 50 million on Street Fighter, and disowned it-- it made 8 million dollars. They blew 100 million on Dragonball, and they're more or less disowning it (no advertising)-- and if the early reviews are even half as honest as their writers claim to be, it'll be lucky if it makes 50 million world wide, and that's not even counting what the theaters keep. All of this money is not coming out of thin air, and at the end of the day SOMEONE is going to have to be held accountable for WHY Fox's money keeps getting flushed down the crapper. I have not been impressed with what I've been hearing about the Wolverine movie either, so that may very well be the next movie that Fox bungles up. It's too high profile for them to sweep under the rug like with Street Fighter and Dragon Ball, but still, if the movie sucks badly enough it'll probably have a decent opening and an abysmal dropoff.

It is a shame about Dragonball, but hey, after Dragonball GT the franchise was already pretty much effed up beyond repair anyway. Unlike GI Joe and Transformers, for some reason my nostalgia goggles towards Dragonball Z don't seem to do much at all. The show started getting pretty crappy near the end, and a few episodes of GT it pretty much killed my interest in Dragonball. It put a sour taste in my mouth that not even nostalgia can cover up, I'm afraid. I've outgrown Dragonball, and it doesn't look like I'll be getting back into it any time soon.

 

[louiebling$]

**** Rothman for ****ing up Dragonball.... it could have been an Epic Movie

 

[dude stannis]

**** Rothman for ****ing up Dragonball.... it could have been an Epic Movie

It was in a sense.

 

[Darkness Falls]

screw fox, after wolverine

rothman and i we're F***ing done professionally

 

[Evil Twin]

How did that dipstick manage to get a promotion? The only thing he's done in his career is help ensure that Fox remains at the VERY bottom-tier of the major studios.

While there's no doubt that Fox has been artistically garbage for a long time, Fox has generally been very tight with their money and as a result have done well enough on enough projects to be solidly profitable. There have been no Speed Racer's or Golden Compass's on their slate, huge flops. At least, not yet.

Really, despite how crappy the Wolverine movie looks, is anyone going to be very surprise when it opens #1 and probably turns a solid profit? Fox's mandate is 1) keep it cheap, 2) keep it short, 3) throw in enough action for commercials, 4) don't take stylistic chances, and 5) let the marketing department promote the hell out of it.

 

[dark_b]

Austalia
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=australia.htm
domestic matters the most to the studios. and its a mega bomb.

 

[Heretic]

screw fox, after wolverine

rothman and i we're F***ing done professionally

So basically, after you spend money on the movie you want to see, youre boycotting Fox until they release another movie you want to see???

Thats a lame boycott, dont you think?

Man up, and skip Wolverine...or quit talking like you mean it.

 

[Timstuff]

While there's no doubt that Fox has been artistically garbage for a long time, Fox has generally been very tight with their money and as a result have done well enough on enough projects to be solidly profitable. There have been no Speed Racer's or Golden Compass's on their slate, huge flops. At least, not yet.

Dragon Ball cost Fox over 100 million. With the amount of money they threw at it, it SHOULD have been a blockbuster, but apparently it's so bad that Fox is disowning it just like they did with Street Fighter. The movie will be lucky to gross even HALF of what Fox dumped into it, and that's just terrible. Fox cannot keep dumping these big budgets into rushed, half-baked projects and then just walking away when it's time to release them.

With Dragonball they actually made some attempts to fix it. They pushed it back to spring instead of late summer, did reshoots, listened to the early complaints and made piccolo green, turned Goku into a giant ape instead of a fish man, etc. But as they say, you can't polish a turd, and I really have no interest in seeing it anymore. People who were far more optimistic about it than I was were left screaming bloody murder when they saw it, so I can only take it as a sign that it REALLY WAS THAT BAD.

It would be one thing if Fox was making crappy movies, and then dressing them up with extremely slick and agressive marketing campaigns. However, they are making crappy movies, and then saying "yeah, it sucks, don't bother watching it." They're not going to abandon Wolverine because now, aside from Avatar that's really the only thing left they've got going for them this year. However, that doesn't mean that Wolverine will be a good movie, and I've seen nothing for it so far that makes me believe it will be any better than any of Fox's previous screw ups. Essentially, Rothman and Fox are flushing money down the toilet, and in today's economy that's an EXCELLENT way to go into bankrupcy. It would be truly shocking if we actually lost one of the major studios, but given the financial crisis, IT COULD HAPPEN.

 

[Sawyer]

So basically, after you spend money on the movie you want to see, youre boycotting Fox until they release another movie you want to see???

Thats a lame boycott, dont you think?

Man up, and skip Wolverine...or quit talking like you mean it.

Especially since Wolverine looks like kind of a doodoo movie anyway...

 

[Sam Fisher]

**** Rothman for ****ing up Dragonball.... it could have been an Epic Movie

Like I said in another thread, how can something be good when it's already based on a piece of crap?

 

[Anita18]

It would be one thing if Fox was making crappy movies, and then dressing them up with extremely slick and agressive marketing campaigns. However, they are making crappy movies, and then saying "yeah, it sucks, don't bother watching it." They're not going to abandon Wolverine because now, aside from Avatar that's really the only thing left they've got going for them this year. However, that doesn't mean that Wolverine will be a good movie, and I've seen nothing for it so far that makes me believe it will be any better than any of Fox's previous screw ups. Essentially, Rothman and Fox are flushing money down the toilet, and in today's economy that's an EXCELLENT way to go into bankrupcy. It would be truly shocking if we actually lost one of the major studios, but given the financial crisis, IT COULD HAPPEN.

And unless Avatar makes like Titanic at the box office, it's going to be difficult to recoup its reportedly-$300 million budget.

 

[BestGirl]

I hope Rothman was promoted out of harm's way, so that he makes lots of money but doesn't have much in the way of real responsibilities. I hope I hope.

While there's no doubt that Fox has been artistically garbage for a long time, Fox has generally been very tight with their money and as a result have done well enough on enough projects to be solidly profitable. There have been no Speed Racer's or Golden Compass's on their slate, huge flops. At least, not yet.

Really, despite how crappy the Wolverine movie looks, is anyone going to be very surprise when it opens #1 and probably turns a solid profit? Fox's mandate is 1) keep it cheap, 2) keep it short, 3) throw in enough action for commercials, 4) don't take stylistic chances, and 5) let the marketing department promote the hell out of it.

I've gotten this sense about Wolverine since I saw the first teaser. I'd like to be wrong since I'm crossing my fingers for Gambit and Deadpool spinoffs.

 

[louiebling$]

It was in a sense.

Its not that bad

Like I said in another thread, how can something be good when it's already based on a piece of crap?

Whoa.... DB is an Underated, Amazing anime.

 

[kedrell]

Like I said in another thread, how can something be good when it's already based on a piece of crap?

I gotta agree. I never understood the appeal of all this japanicrap. I guess you have to be under 30 to appreciate it.

 

[Raiden]

Especially since Wolverine looks like kind of a doodoo movie anyway...

The only good thing that could happen if Wolverine tanks, is that Fox will abandon their plans for an origin movie of Magneto and a X-Men 4, and eventually the rights will be reverted back to Marvel.

Hmm, come to think of it, I do hope Wolverine will fail at the BO now.

 

[kedrell]

^That's always been my hope. I'd say the same for Spider-Man over at Sony.

 

[Raiden]

I gotta agree. I never understood the appeal of all this japanicrap. I guess you have to be under 30 to appreciate it.

As an anime fan, I take offense when someone insults Japanimation. Anime, much like Hollywood movies, have a wide variety of genre that appeal to different demographics, from kiddie (Sailor Moon) to teens and young adults (Naruto, Dragonball), to adults (Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scrolls). They even have hentai, which is like adult/porn for mature audience. Saying that you have to be under 30 to appreciate it is quite ignorant imo.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Anime is like anything else. There is fantastic stuff, utter crap, and everything in between.

 

[Raiden]

Anime is like anything else. There is fantastic stuff, utter crap, and everything in between.

Exactly. We don't say that all Hollywood movies are crap after turds like The Hottie and the Nottie, The Guru, and Catwoman were made, same for anime.

 

[kedrell]

It's a general statement(the age thing) and I accept that there are people(usually very young people) who like japanimation. But to me it sucks and I've not seen anything of it that even remotely interested me. So I can accept that you love it, and there's nothing wrong with that. As long as you can accept that there's a whole lot of people from my generation that will just never like this stuff. Also, I like my porn Americanized and in live action.

 

[Raiden]

It's a general statement(the age thing) and I accept that there are people(usually very young people) who like japanimation. But to me it sucks and I've not seen anything of it that even remotely interested me. So I can accept that you love it, and there's nothing wrong with that. As long as you can accept that there's a whole lot of people from my generation that will just never like this stuff. Also, I like my porn Americanized and in live action.

I'm not sure what anime you saw, but I doubt you have seen the best ones anime has to offer. If I only seen a couple of Hollywood movies like Street Fighter: Legend of Chun-Li and Ghost Rider, I'd probably would have lost all hope for Hollywood and refused to watch another. As for hentai, it's obviously not for everyone, but the fact that anime would make porn shows that Japanese treat their animation VERY differently than Americans, who can't get over their stereotypes that cartoons are limited to Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse, and they are made for kids only.

 

[louiebling$]

i know plenty of Older people who Enjoy anime... maybe not the Campy stuff but alot of the more Mature stuff like Appleseed : Ex Machina,Princess Mononoke(along with alot of Miyazakis work), Akira, Van Helsling,Deathnote.Theres alot of good stuff thats not main stream.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Ghost in the Shell is great. That's the only series i like really.