The Haitian

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just got into the series this week and wound up watching them all to get caught up. i've seen some questions/hypotheses about the Haitian, and have some myself.

he's a vampire. not in the traditional horror-type way, but in a parasitic way. i think that's his primary power: power drain. the markings on Sprague's neck and Parkman's neck have to be a result of the Haitian, and they are vampiric in a sense. but it also seems that Sprague's and Parkman's powers were sped up rather than diminished. Parkman now hears more thoughts going on at the same time, and Sprague's power manifested immediately after his...programming, for lack of a better word.
 
i think his powers are just mental related

blocks the hearing of thoughts
blocks eden's purple man thingie
erases minds


perhaps the 2 lines on their necks are more of tracking devices and their whole stronger power thingie is just what happens over time

it was no shock that matt would have a hard time controlling his power, most early telepaths do(in fiction)
 
If it weren't for the fact that he's able to erase people's memories and render them entirely amnesiac, I would say he is a power nullifier, such as the mutant Leech from the X-books.
 
but he does more than that, since people's powers don't work around him. and you have to admit, the marks are quite vampiric: they're a pair, and they're at the neck. also, HRG and Haitian were tracking these people before the marks were made. they did find sprague, parkman, and nathan. and sprague became aware of his power immediately afterward. i wonder if the QB has marks on his neck.
 
On second thought, he can't be a power leech, otherwise Nathan wouldn't have been able to escape from the two of them in the episode Hiros. Jeez, what the frick is that guy?
 
ironmaidenrules said:
i think his powers are just mental related

blocks the hearing of thoughts
blocks eden's purple man thingie
erases minds


perhaps the 2 lines on their necks are more of tracking devices and their whole stronger power thingie is just what happens over time

it was no shock that matt would have a hard time controlling his power, most early telepaths do(in fiction)


ahem
 
ironmaidenrules said:
ahem, yourself.

but he does more than that, since people's powers don't work around him. and you have to admit, the marks are quite vampiric: they're a pair, and they're at the neck. also, HRG and Haitian were tracking these people before the marks were made. they did find sprague, parkman, and nathan. and sprague became aware of his power immediately afterward; it didn't just happen over time.
 
Parker said:
On second thought, he can't be a power leech, otherwise Nathan wouldn't have been able to escape from the two of them in the episode Hiros. Jeez, what the frick is that guy?
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i think the simple answer to that is he wasn't using his power. parkman was hearing thoughts in the bar before he was aware that the Haitian was there. eden was able to tell Sylar to sleep with the Haitian around.
 
so far all we know is that he negates mental powers
this makes sense with his power also being mind related(erasing)

we have never seen him block someone else's powers

until we do, i shall keep my theory

just the sAme, you will keep your theory until official word is given

truth is, we know far too little about this man

i seriously doubt he is of any vampiric origins
the marks on matt and captain nuke dont look like bite marks but more like a needle or branding (tagged them)
 
i didn't say he WAS a vampire, only vampiric in draining power. what does a vampire do? drains life force, i.e. blood. and the marks on the necks are vampiric. what does the Haitian do? drains power, even if it is just mental.

again, they don't look like traditional bite/teeth/puncture marks, but they are in a pair and they are at the neck area. it's just an analogy, man.
 
Mysterio said:
i didn't say he WAS a vampire, only vampiric in draining power. what does a vampire do? drains life force, i.e. blood. and the marks on the necks are vampiric. what does the Haitian do? drains power, even if it is just mental.

again, they don't look like traditional bite/teeth/puncture marks, but they are in a pair and they are at the neck area. it's just an analogy, man.

as i said, its all up in the air as of now

if we see him negate someone's powers(side from those mind related people(not sure if issac would count...he prob would)

remeber, i am not saying ur an idiot and that ur theory is wrong

i just don't agree with it and i explained my theory

truth is, there is not much to do from here on...we can go back and forth and reiterate our points and use capital letters and angry emoticons and call each other names that would make out dear mother's cry, or we can agree to disagree and argue with people who make really stupid theories(claire=sylar)
 
ironmaidenrules said:
as i said, its all up in the air as of now

if we see him negate someone's powers(side from those mind related people(not sure if issac would count...he prob would)
well...he did do something with the radioactive guy, so his power isn't just related to people with mentally driven powers. before Haitian - no radioactive power; after Haitian - radioactive power. now obviously that isn't draining power, but he appears to possibly "speed up", or "activate" evolution as well? and actually, that would be somewhat vampiric as well. after all, how does one vampire make another? a vampire can both kill (the analogy in this case would be the QB Brody), and make/transfer/grant/increase power (radioactive guy, parkman). i think it's a pretty good analogy.
 
Mysterio said:
well...he did do something with the radioactive guy, so his power isn't just related to people with mentally driven powers. before Haitian - no radioactive power; after Haitian - radioactive power. now obviously that isn't draining power, but he appears to possibly "speed up", or "activate" evolution as well? and actually, that would be somewhat vampiric as well. after all, how does one vampire make another? a vampire can both kill (the analogy in this case would be the QB Brody), and make/transfer/grant/increase power (radioactive guy, parkman). i think it's a pretty good analogy.


or it was dr.glasses messing with their junk
 
ironmaidenrules said:
or it was dr.glasses messing with their junk
then why did the Haitian need to be present in the bar? just to drug his beer? i don't think so. those marks are from the Haitian.
 
Mysterio said:
then why did the Haitian need to be present in the bar? just to drug his beer? i don't think so. those marks are from the Haitian.


ok

he finally speaks

sadly..i dont think this adds anything new

but we are getting close
seems jan.22 will explore more about our haitian since matt was able to recognize him

now the question, that static, does matt hear it because the haitian blocks his powers or because they drugged him and made his powers not work(vampire junk to you)

i still think that part of his power is to disable mind powers(reading,suggestion)

glasses claimed that sylar's powers wont work(they ****ing did), why the false sense of security? did the haitian put some power block(if so then this goes to you), was eden the only one not cool enough for the power block?

so much to think about
 
ironmaidenrules said:
now the question, that static, does matt hear it because the haitian blocks his powers or because they drugged him and made his powers not work(vampire junk to you)
the Haitian was blocking parkman's power, both at the station while claire was being interviewed and when he was walking across the parking lot with HRG.


ironmaidenrules said:
glasses claimed that sylar's powers wont work(they ****ing did), why the false sense of security? did the haitian put some power block(if so then this goes to you), was eden the only one not cool enough for the power block?

so much to think about
the Haitian blocked Eden's power in Six Months Ago (remember when he was standing in front of her car and remember when HRG first talked with her?). and yes, the Haitian was blocking Sylar when HRG said his powers won't work. don't forget that Sylar has more than just mind powers. clearly the Haitian is not totally in line with HRG's vision, has disobeyed HRG's orders, and had even taken sides with Eden. she told HRG that even the Haitian would agree with her that Sylar needed to be killed. The Haitian immediately gave a slight nod of agreement after she said that. Haitian wasn't around to block Sylar when Eden went, on her own, to kill Sylar.
 
This guy is mysteriously awesome. And it's cool that he's trying to help Claire.
 
Mysterio said:
clearly the Haitian is not totally in line with HRG's vision, has disobeyed HRG's orders, and had even taken sides with Eden. she told HRG that even the Haitian would agree with her that Sylar needed to be killed. The Haitian immediately gave a slight nod of agreement after she said that. Haitian wasn't around to block Sylar when Eden went, on her own, to kill Sylar.

Given the chance, anyone would agree with Eden.:cwink:
But now she's dead, maybe her last request for the Haitian was to keep Claire in the loop and not erase her memories. Remember that Parkman didn't stop eating donuts for days.
 
I think there is also the possiblity that Mr.Bennet aka HRG has the ability to nulify powers. Last night it seemed like that was the case. Like when he was talking to Sylar. The Haitian was quite far away at the time. Also it seemed like when he and Claire visited Peter in the hospital, Peter became more sickly because he didn't have that residual healing power to draw on. Even when Matt tried to read his mind..nothing. I think having the Haitian around at these points in time is a plot device to make us think that he's the one doing it. But think about it, as far as we know HRG is the only "non-powered" guy working the field for whatever agency he works for. Why would the government ever send just one normal human after all these supers? They wouldn't, not unless HRG was able to negade their powers.
 
I think the Haitian has a stopping/cancelling kind of telepathy. He can turn memories off and he can turn powers off... he just has an ability to turn certain sections of the mind off... no big deal. It's something he controls and he can target it (capturing Sylar) or make it an area effect (the Police station)... all is well...

The reason Matt couldn't read Peter's mind was feedback, if you listen to the sound it wasn't the static of Matt's power not working it was words looping back on themselves... Peter was unconcoiusly reading Matt's mind while Matt was reading Peter's... feedback.

The Hatiian as cool as he is, has only one power. I'm actually kind of dissappointed he can talk. Wait... Eden didn't know he could talk... hmm.. there's a lot going on in this plot.
 
NoirMan82 said:
I think there is also the possiblity that Mr.Bennet aka HRG has the ability to nulify powers. Last night it seemed like that was the case. Like when he was talking to Sylar. The Haitian was quite far away at the time. Also it seemed like when he and Claire visited Peter in the hospital, Peter became more sickly because he didn't have that residual healing power to draw on. Even when Matt tried to read his mind..nothing. I think having the Haitian around at these points in time is a plot device to make us think that he's the one doing it. But think about it, as far as we know HRG is the only "non-powered" guy working the field for whatever agency he works for. Why would the government ever send just one normal human after all these supers? They wouldn't, not unless HRG was able to negade their powers.

Can't be the case because in previous episodes, Claire has healed herself when she was right by him.
 
Since the source of the "heroes" powers is in the mind, it makes sense he can block them somehow.
 
The Haitian has strong mental capabilities. He can erase people's memories, he can block telepathic attacks and I think he can block other psionics from accessing their abilities. I think he needs to know what kind of ability they have in order to block them accessing it. Such as not knowing that Nathan could fly, therefore he couldn't prevent him from doing it.

I don't think the Haitian affects other peoples powers. I think Bennett is trying to "activate" these heroes for some, as yet, unknown agenda. That's why Ted only discovered his abilities after coming in contact with Bennett. And unwittingly Bennett did not realize Matt was already active, so what ever he did jumped up Matt's telepathy. Matt mentions that his ability is a bit screwy since his encounter with Bennett.

The Haitian's mind block is so he doesn't know or sense when someone is trying to attack his mind, evidence in Matt trying in the bar and again when trying to read Bennett/Hatian or both thoughts when they left the building.
 
GL1 said:
I think the Haitian has a stopping/cancelling kind of telepathy. He can turn memories off and he can turn powers off... he just has an ability to turn certain sections of the mind off... no big deal. It's something he controls and he can target it (capturing Sylar) or make it an area effect (the Police station)... all is well...


This sounds about right to me. Bennett did say that Sylar is the only one who has more than one power, so whatever the Haitian's ability is exactly, it should only be construed as one particular thing. Thus he couldn't have the ability to turn off people's powers AND erase their memories unless those two functions were somehow interrelated.

By the way, does anyone find it a little politically incorrect that they only refer to this dude by his nationality? I mean, I'm not hung up on PC crap, but seriously... they don't call Nathan "the American" or Mohinder "the Indian." And I assume when Christopher Eccleston shows up he won't be "the Englighman." I can understand why people who don't know who he is would refer to the Haitian so generically, but would Eden and Bennett know his name or at least a better code name for him?
 

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