The Hulk's origin

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  1. EmeraldBeast Registered

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    It has been debated over and over again that the Hulk's origin while not being done in this movie has strayed from the comics. Many fanboys were angered by Lee's origin. Many thought this movie was just a super soldier serum origin. It's not. It has been said by Louis himself that while this isn't an origin movie, the Hulk was created by.......the Gamma Bomb. Oh, just in case..here it is:
    " You’ll see Bruce Banner transform in minute three. (Laughs) Minute three! That’s what’s good about it and it was really important when I was accepting the movie. We're not treating it as an origin movie but: Bruce Banner stepping into his chair and the gamma bomb and everything. He’s the Hulk already, with the Hulk within him, and you get to understand how he came to be in this situation, his struggle in life, the other characters surrounding him and the enemies that he deals with and fights with."
     
  2. Asgard Kanga Fu

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    Maybe he means bomb as in bombard.
     
  3. EmeraldBeast Registered

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    No, as in accidental explosion.
     
  4. ant3ros SUPERFAN

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    He's saying Hulk is the gamma bomb. It's like the 90s expression 'dats da bomb!' except gammafied to Hulk level. 'Incredible Hulk' will be gamma bomb!
     
  5. FrostBite Behind you.

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    It's worded so weird I am not sure if he is saying thats the origin or if he's just saying it's not an origin movie and they aren't exploring the gamma bomb.

    But heres hoping!
     
  6. Judson Caspian Registered

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    Holy crap. Talk about staying true to the comics. So there won't even be any flashbacks revealing a gamma explosion scene?
     
  7. comic_guy04 Clown of Chi-Town

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    I thought the story involved Banner and peeps working for the government developing the super soldier serum that the army intends to market or use. Then Banner realizes that the serum reacts to Gamma radiation and, the government is pushing for a Human trial and Banner does the guinne pig thing. He in short hits himself with too much gamma via the chair thing everyone hates from the tv show, and Hulk is born? I'm down for that origin or the bomb, or perhaps a mix of the two.
     
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    I still think the TV origin is the best...it gave him a good reason to experiment on himself and be pissed off at the same time.
     
  9. Gamma Ra Registered

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    It may be that they will mix in all three some how. The super soldier serum, giving his body the necessary strength to withstand minor doses of gamma rays from the chair, until something goes terribly wrong and there's a massive explosion creating....:bh:
     
  10. Hulkfan2008! Registered

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    so is it the bomb or tv exposure or the super soldier.
    i hope its the bomb
     
  11. redlion2 Interim King of Wakanda

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    I dunno, based upon what I've read in the early draft of the script, I was always under the impression that Banner never worked directly on the SSS per Se. He was actually working on radiation mitigation; a way for soldiers to be protected from limited exposure to small amounts of radiation. I think that Ross even confirms this. When the funding begins to get cut, Bruce decides to experiment upon himself and tests his work by exposing himself to radiation but something goes horribly wrong and he's exposed to a massive amount of gamma radiation and there is an explosion and the Hulk is born.

    The SSS program grew as a result of Bruce's earlier research and beyond what he(Bruce) was doing by actually improving the physical abilities of the soldier and his aggressiveness in combat.

    Two entirely different things, yet related in concept. At least that was my take on things.
     
  12. Obi-Ron Deal with it

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    Like father, like son, I guess.
     
  13. redlion2 Interim King of Wakanda

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    Yeah, I guess so if you reference it to Ang's film but since this film is not supposed to be related to that film, well.........
     
  14. Sarg92 Ouch!

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    I think you are right.

    I have read the parts of the draft you are talking about and it makes sense.

    Banner and Blonsky both become monsters in different ways.

    Banner with gamma radiation only (from the chair?) and Blonsky being injected with the Super Soldier Serum not Banner, making him into a really strong human and then injecting himself with Banner's blood turning him into the Abomination.
     
  15. redlion2 Interim King of Wakanda

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    Yep Sarge, that's the way I took it.
     
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    Um...aren't you guys referring to the Super Soldier Serum that created Captain America? I mean, in order to the formula to accelerate and stablize the serum's effect on his body, Steve Rogers has to be "bomb"arded with a combo of exotic wavelengths of radiation called "Vita-Rays". My theory on the origin: Banner was injected with Cap's Super Soldier Serum, but accidentaly used gamma radiation to stablize the serum instead of those "vita-rays". Thus when angered, um... you get the idea.
     
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    No, we're not referring to the SSS that created CM.
     
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    They need to just avoid the origin. It will be confusing for people that saw the '03 film if they elude to anything else, and it will piss fanboys off if they don't have it true to....any one of the comic versions. Just avoid it and move on. That will free people up to consider this a sequel to '03 or not....however they wish. You please everyone.
     
  20. The Joker_1000 Registered

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    co2, I need your help with an origin story myself. I'm PM'ing you now.
     
  21. Hulkfan2008! Registered

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    but they really need to make clear that this is not a sequel and to do that is to some how spoon out a origin in a flashback.
     
  22. The Joker_1000 Registered

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    They've said in nearly every interview that this is not a sequel. That's enough.
     
  23. Hulkfan2008! Registered

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    a lot people dont bother to read up or watch interviews alot of people still think its a sequel.
     
  24. The Joker_1000 Registered

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    Well, let them think that for now. They'll learn soon enough.
     
  25. OneKnight Brutally honest

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    The problem is that this thing plays like a sequel in the way it's written.

    It starts with Banner already being the Hulk for years. It's soon made clear that he's been on the run for years. After that, we quickly learn that General Ross has been pursuing him for years. And this doesn't even count Betty Ross, a woman who has been longing for him for years despite being in another relationship.

    I have to say that this is pretty much where Ang Lee's film left off. If Marvel never really used the word sequel, I think they simply could have built off of Lee's film to launch their reboot.

    If they used David Banner's serum on Blonsky, a serum that Banner developed after experiments on aquatic life (starfish) and reptiles (hela monsters), I think you'd have the logical reason why Abomination has reptilian qualities.

    Also, there would be no need for the poorly written origin flashback in this film. You would not have to touch on it because people would accept that he's already the Hulk. The flashback will only make typical moviegoers think that this was how he became Hulk in Lee's film. That is to say that they won't remember, care, or believe this is anything other than a sequel.
     

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