The Hype Mole 3: FINALE!!!

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  1. Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014/2019 Champion

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    The Hype Mole Mission 9 "Where is Vincent!?"

    The rules:
    11 players are chosen, one of them is an Other. The Other is a double agent within your group that is working to take out you all one by one while trying to keep their identity a secret. Each mission has a reward in the form of a clue to the true identity of the Other amongst you. It is the Other's job to thwart or sabotage any efforts at uncovering their identity. After each mission, a quiz about that mission and the Other's involvement is issued and the player with the lowest score is executed. In the event of a tie for last, the pm(s) first received will take precedence. The Other will always score 100% and will therefore not be eliminated. Quiz scores or answers will never be given after any mission.

    At the end, 2 players remain. It is then up to the 9 executed players to submit their vote as to who they think the Other is. If the majority chooses the Other, then the survivor did a good job at uncovering their identity and therefore wins. If the majority chooses the survivor, then the Other did a good job at keeping their identity a secret and therefore wins. ​

    Your outcome in this game is solely up to you. There is always more than one way aside from mission clues to uncover the Other's true identity. So, be vigilant, pay attention, and always mind your surroundings.

    Remember, only stuff given or sent by myself or Spider-Fan is official. The main rules about this game is that there are none. Lie, cheat, backstab, or slither your way to the top! Each mission will have its own set of instructions that will be outlined.

    Glossary for dumbies:
    Other = mole
    Survivor = rest of you

    Nell, you were an impressive rookie, and did a great job in playing the game and being active. While I disagree with your opinions on Wolverine, I have to respect the way you played :up:

    But, enough of the losers. LET'S FOCUS ON OUR FINAL 2!!! In one corner, we have KALEL114, and in the other, Rocker22. Which one is the Other? Let's find out:

    The two of you will have til 12am CST tomorrow to post a one post case in defense of yourself. The format and length of this post is entirely up to you. Once these are posted, you may rebut your opponents post JUST ONCE. Your former players will also be encouraged to ask questions, and you may reply to any questions that get asked. It will then be up to the former players to vote and decide whom they think is the Other, so make your case a convincing one.

    I wish good luck to the both of you in our finale, and I would like to personally thank everyone who participated. You guys made this a great game to look over and a great experience. I hope you enjoyed this game as much as myself and chase did hosting it. I also would like to thank chase for allowing me to cohost this game with him. It truly was a tremendous honor cohosting the game, and I am glad I got to be a part of the game :up:

    Enough of the gushy stuff. LET'S GET THIS BATTLE ON!!!
     
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  2. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    Group hug:heart:

    Good luck to the both of you.
     
  3. KALEL114 Returned

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    Wednesday 12pm or am?
     
  4. Star Slurr

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    Clearly it's Kalel
     
  5. Spider-Fan SHHFFL 2014/2019 Champion

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    Midnight tomorrow...my mistake in the post.

    I'm still somewhat new :csad:
     
  6. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    What a great question!
     
  7. Majic Walrus Faster than an Iceberg.

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    Can we ask questions now or do we have to wait until after they make their argument... Are we limited on the number of questions we can ask?
     
  8. Erzengel |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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    I'd like to sign up for this Hype Mole 3. :up:
     
  9. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    You can ask whatever you want whenever you want. They can choose to answer it or not.

    You're hired...and then subsequently fired.
     
  10. Majic Walrus Faster than an Iceberg.

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    Question 1: Are you the other?

    Question 2: Is the other guy the other?

    Question 3: Wasn't I awesome when I was still playing and not dead'd?
     
  11. AlteredEgo Hello...

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    1. Has Teddy been found out yet?
     
  12. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    Quit trying to ruin the surprise:o
     
  13. Nell2ThaIzzay Registered

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    I'm out?!

    BOO!!!! I demand a recount!!

    Or at the very least, acceptance into Hype Mole 4.
     
  14. KALEL114 Returned

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    If I get off this island alive, I will make sure to get that note to Amanda, Malcolm.

    A promise is a promise.
     
  15. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    If there is one:csad:
     
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    Wow! What another great game chase. SF you were great as co-host. I want to thank you both for allowing me to play again. And I'd like to give props to all of the other players in the game as well, especially SsM and Nell.You two helped me out a lot in this game when others didn't. Thank you. :up:

    Now, let me start by saying that I am not the Mole/Other. The evidence I have collected will prove that Rocker22/Ryan is.

    As far as my strategy this game, I did the exact same thing I did last game. Here’s what I said then: If you are a fan of the show (The Mole), you know that one strategy is to draw attention to yourself. This gives you a slight edge. That was my goal coming in. I knew that it could only take me so far, because unlike the show, the executed here can still communicate with the remaining players. It could give me an advantage, until someone who targeted me in a quiz got eliminated.

    Let’s talk about that evidence. Ryan has lied quite a bit in this game. I know this, because of Execution Quiz 8. This was one of the questions. I added the answers. Nell and SsM, feel free to object if I’m wrong:

    What year was the Other born?
    • 1965- Me
    • 1982- Nell
    • 1984- SsM
    • 1985- Rocker22
    Ryan claimed he was born in 1986. Which you can see isn’t even an option.
    http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=16903080&postcount=89

    I believe the only thing he was truthful about was his name. The clues we received were pointing to parts of his bio and his Hype alter ego Rocker22.

    Our first clue was for an album cover for Elvis Costello’s album Armed Forces. I believe this is pointing to Ryan’s true favorite musician and not Johnny Cash like he claims.
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    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=06HARMK5HAWC5D8CY79Y

    The second clue was of Uranometria of the constellation Orion with the quote "Look to the stars for guidance." I believe that this is in reference to Rocker’s band Race the Sun. Perhaps it is also a hint to Ryan’s occupation as well, maybe an Astronomer.
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    When Orion was blind he was taken to Helios (the Sun) to be healed.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(mythology)
    "Look to the stars for help" people have used the Sun to guide us all the time.

    The next clue was a picture that shows what looks to be the mining of a type of rock. Another hint to Rocker, but the most important part is the bottom of the picture. The date has been altered (perhaps by chaseter) to show only the day. 22. Another connection to Rocker22/Ryan.
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    The next clue was a note in Latin. The key here is it points to the letter R as in Rocker22/Ryan.
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    Attero means Ruin. Ille qui nos omnes servabit - “He who will protect us all.” This was said by Richard in the last season finale of Lost. The other part that sticks out is:Vir ex Caput mundi. Man out of Rome.Rome has been known for centuries as Caput Mundi.
    http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Incident,_Parts_1_&_2
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caput_Mundi

    The next clue is in fact the biggest and most important of them all. It was a Coat of Arms for the Ryan Family.
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    http://www.allfamilycrests.com/r/ryan-family-crest-coat-of-arms.shtml

    Our next clue was a miniature puzzle like the one’s we did in Mission: "If I Could Turn Back Time".
    Here is the clue and the answers:
    Movie: Man desperately has to get these two people to fall in love.
    Answer: Back to the Future, 1985
    Song: Man sings about something that can save your life.
    Answer: Huey Lewis and the News “The Power of Love”. This was featured in Back to the Future.
    http://www.lyricsfreak.com/h/huey+lewis+and+the+news/the+power+of+love_20066339.html

    Back to the Future was released in 1985. Remember that quiz question I posted at the top of the post? This is what I believe is Ryan’s true year of birth.

    The next clue was broken into 4 pieces and given to each of us. I received Calgary, Canada. No one shared their pieces with me. I’m not sure what this references, because of this.

    That’s what I have. I sincerely hope you look over everything before you vote. Rocker22/Ryan was very quiet the entire game and the small amount of info he gave us was mostly lies. He is the Mole/Other.

    I will happily answer every question you have for me. And look forward to proving my innocence even further. Thank you.
     
  17. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    Remember, you can both rebut each other's evidence only once. If Rocker does so in his evidence post, then he does not get a rebuttal post.
     
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    Great job to everybody involved in the game but lets get down to business:
    I'm going to be using the same clues he is using against me and show you the true meaning of each clue and then revealing the latest clue I got after the last mission that certified in mind as to who the mole was. Yes I did lie about my age to the other survivors but that was merely a white lie to not give away my true age to the group. I have always been irritated by the questions about my age.

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    This clue has always confused me, it also led me to Elvis Costello, but Johnny Cash is my favorite artist. If I'm not mistaken Jake has told us who his favorite artist is by saying BB King. But King=Elvis(King of Rock and Roll) But I never found a link to prove Elvis Costello.

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    I think this clue is about Jake's story...he is trying to find his missing wife. The uranometria was the first atlas to cover the entire earth and he has searched all over the Earth trying to find her.

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    This one was easy for me to decifier...that's iron in that man's hand. It represents Iron Man. Jake once said his was Superman but it looks like he only jumped on the band wagon
    http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=16941019&postcount=132
    http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=16941068&postcount=133

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    The real latin translation of this phrase is:Destory the one who will save us all man from capital city. Jake is from Austin, Texas...of course Austin is the capital of Texas.

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    Yes this is the Coat of Arms for the Ryan family. But Ryan is my first name of course not my last. The Ryan family is a Irish family. I couldn't find where Jake has said he was Irish but that's my guess.

    Now for my final clue that I was the only one to receive:
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    Which is from the latest Trebek vs Sean Connery during the SNL finale. Connery is Jake's favorite actor:
    http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=16937678&postcount=128

    If you notice Jake is desperately trying to connect me with the clues. Chase has said only the bios we sent in would be used in the game. In no way would my band be involved in the game. Also with the latin phrase "pointing" to the R's He did not even translate it properly. Also I'm not a astronomer...I'm a entrepreneur and that's why I said this: http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=17012370&postcount=63

    I hope this helps with your decision.
     
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    Oh and to answer your questions hahaha


    We are both others.:whatever::wow::huh:
     
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    Ok. So you admit lying about your age.

    Drawing a line from Elvis Costello to Elvis Presley to BB King is the biggest stretch I have ever seen. If you lied about your age, I believe you are capable of lying about everything else. Including your favorite musician.

    Superman is my favorite hero. Look at my Hype name. You didn't even address the 22 on the bottom of the picture.

    You can twist the translation all you want, but I stand by mine. Richard in Lost has a connection to the game we are playing. And all the R's point to you.

    The Ryan Coat of Arms is so blatant that there is no other explanation. You are Ryan therefore the clue points to you.

    How convenient. The only clue you have that would directly point to me, is the one that only you got.

    There is nothing desperate about my evidence. If anyone is desperate right now, it is you. You have nothing tangible that could point to me. Chase never, at anytime, said that the Mole clues themselves would not connect to our Hype names. He told us to stay in character the whole time, but nothing about the clues. TDK had posted a question about the connection, but I asked him to edit it. I had started to connect you through the clues and didn't want everyone else to figure it out. The Astronomer was a guess on my part and I even said that.

    I ask everyone to look over his evidence and mine before voting. I have actual solid evidence proving he is the Mole/Other. I will answer any questions you have. Please ask them.

    Thank you.
     
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  22. Majic Walrus Faster than an Iceberg.

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    Both of you, what translator/dictionary did you use to translate that Latin?
     
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    I tried to put the whole thing in a translator and it didn't make sense to me. So I broke it up.

    "Ille qui nos omnes servabit"- I recognized immediately, because I watch the show.
    http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Incident,_Parts_1_&_2

    vir ex- http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran?url=http://&type=text&text=vir+ex &from=ltt&to=eng

    Caput Mundi- I did a Google search on it and found out that Rome was called that for a long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caput_Mundi

    Attero- http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran?url=http://&type=text&text=attero &from=ltt&to=eng
     
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    I broke it down and found out through google that caput mundi sometimes means "capital city" then I had a friend who took Latin several years back look at it and tell me what he thought. And he gave me that translation..which reads funny.
     
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