The IRON MAN 3 News & Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

Discussion in 'Iron Man 3' started by Thread Manager, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. JAK®

    JAK® Upstart

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    Well, what do you say to that? Is Transformers good because it made a lot of money and people liked it? If you're going to use that justification for Iron Man 3, I don't see why other films should be different.

    Disclaimer: I think Iron Man 3 is a good movie even though I was disappointed by it.
     
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  2. Whiskey Tango

    Whiskey Tango Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget all those critics who were paid off to deliver favorable reviews. :o
     
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  3. Crimson King

    Crimson King Superhero Novelista

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    That's pretty much where I am on it as well.
     
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  4. metaphysician

    metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    The problem is that a lot of the haters set up a completely unfalsifiable statement: 'this movie is bad', end of story, while denying any possibility of evidence to the contrary. If you want to claim a movie is *objectively* bad, than you should present some form of evidence for it. . . or more accurately, present what evidence *would* have proven it good.

    Instead, critic reviews are discounted as "bought", box office success is discounted as "sheeple", and any individuals holding different opinions are discounted as "blind fanboyism".
     
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  5. Eddie

    Eddie Well-Known Member

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    Tacky stuff like that is part of early drafts all the time. Heck, the first Iron Man very nearly had a scene where Tony essentially tells three girls to start getting it on before he goes and blows up some terrorists. It even got filmed.
     
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  6. nogap87

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    There's a difference between three random chicks at the start of the franchise and Pepper Potts in Iron Man 3. Marvel even gave her a cameo in Avengers. But as Tony says, "Whatever."

    I will admit, given the somewhat goofy/lighthearted tone of the movie, I wonder how serious Tony and Pepper would have taken the situation.
     
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  7. spideyboy_1111

    spideyboy_1111 Young Avenger

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    Eh I've seen the movie twice. He's not saying whatever to pepper. Just the suit. Its not a commentary on pepper at all. People read too much into things
     
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  8. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    On that same subject of "teh tacky that got left on the cutting room floor," there was also a scene in IM2 that featured Iron Man and War Machine literally dueling over a lingerie-clad Olivia Munn in her bed.

    Screenwriters have always been trying for sexual innuendo (or even outright sex, though implicit instead of explicit) in the Iron Man franchise.
     
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  9. nogap87

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    I never said or implied he was saying "whatever" to Pepper. I know he said it because he gave up on his crappy suit. I'm saying it because I really didn't care that much in the first place.

    Yea. Ok. So there was a tacky draft for IM 2 as well. Great. I get it. Thanks for that.
     
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  10. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    You're welcome. A pleasure, sir. :yay:
     
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  11. Whiskey Tango

    Whiskey Tango Well-Known Member

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    lol what's with the attitude?
     
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  12. xeno000

    xeno000 IRON MAN WAS RIGHT!

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    We're now supposed to fret and wring our hands over how awful these scenes would have been had they been included in the final cuts of the films. The filmmakers can't get off the hook simply because they recognized that they had some bad ideas and decided not to use them.
     
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  13. Spider-Vader

    Spider-Vader Mercin' & Workin'

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    That's how I feel about the movie too. I liked it (4th favorite MCU movie), yet it left this sort of empty feeling in me. IM3 was a good, but very weird feeling film; I hope the other films in Phase II aren't like that
     
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  14. nogap87

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    No one has to do anything. Some ideas I didn't like didn't make it into the movie. I'm glad. They are still bad ideas. I'm also glad you seem to like IM3 a lot. Just relax and don't take my (or anyone else's) critique of it so personally. This place is reminding me of the batboards.
     
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  15. Whiskey Tango

    Whiskey Tango Well-Known Member

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    Great. We get it. Thanks for that.
     
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  16. nogap87

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    You're welcome. A pleasure, sir. :yay:
     
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  17. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    :cmad: WARNING: There will be no future stealing of other poster's lines in this thread, or else Very Bad Things Might Happen. (And I'm talking H.P. Lovecraft stuff. Tentacles coming out of fifty eyeballs, demons unleashed on Abercrombie & Fitch stores everywhere, real end of the world stuff.)

    Every schtick is sacred. :o
     
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  18. Repulsor Blast

    Repulsor Blast Walloping Websnappers

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    do you guys think they cut some of the cool armours vs. extremis soldiers moments out because it would detract from tony as iron man?

    like, if it were established that jarvis was creative and efficient in battle, then what's the point of having tony at all?

    when i first saw the story boards i was like "damn, that should have been in the movie"

    but the more i thought of it, i felt like it would make tony redundant if jarvis was that much of a boss lol.
     
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  19. Punisher_MAX

    Punisher_MAX Ol' Painless

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    I might be the only one that doesnt think the Mandarin is dead...i mean...he survived a far worse explosion before that shell hit him...so maybe this is wishful thinking but...maybe he comes back at some later point as the true Mandarin we know, builds 10 rings to allow him to use the full extent of his Extremis powers, etc etc.

    wishful thinking...
     
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  20. Whiskey Tango

    Whiskey Tango Well-Known Member

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    Ph'nglui Mglw' nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! Iä! Iä! Cthulhu Fhtagn!
     
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  21. nogap87

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    Sacred...Internet...Does not compute.
     
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  22. mkilban2

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    If they filmed those scenes, or cgi'd them or whatever (which I doubt the fully did if they didn't make the cut) I'd love to see them.. almost a waste of so many armors doing cool special things... and one was a big unibeam attack like I wanted!!!! :argh:
     
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  23. Repulsor Blast

    Repulsor Blast Walloping Websnappers

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    i agree about the unibeam; that's not exactly a creative attack in the same way the jet pack jettison and "stop hitting yourself" moments were.

    the heartbreaker should have had more screen time imo.
     
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  24. Kane52630

    Kane52630 Just Some Nut

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    Am I one of the few who thinks...[BLACKOUT]Aldrich Killian isn't really the Mandarin but wants to be? Sorta like Jim Carry's Riddler said he was Batman at the end of Batman Forever? because that's how I interpreted when I first saw IM3.[/BLACKOUT]
     
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  25. Crimson King

    Crimson King Superhero Novelista

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    I don't think so. He had the dragon tattoos, not to mention the fact that he orchestrated everything, including Trevor. He's definitely Mandarin.

    On a side note, I love your avatar. Can't wait for the new album.
     
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