The Israel Situation II - Part 2

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  1. Sithborg Registered

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    Unlike Trump, Bibi has an actual indictment sitting for him. Literally waiting for him to lose his protection.
     
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    Yeah. I know, but, you must admit, the parallels are fascinating. I was just rolling when I read his statement.

    It's the fraud of the century!!

    He made Bennett "incredible" offers!!!

    Even if Bennett's government is no better than Netanyahu's, at least you get one more criminal in jail. LOL
     
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    It might be worse, actually. This guy once claimed that Palestinians were "still climbing trees" at the time of the ancient kingdom of Israel.

    Right-wing leader Bennett: 'When Palestinians were climbing trees, we already had a Jewish state' - +972 Magazine

    There's also this crazy interview with Mehdi Hasan, where he defends Israel's occupation of the West Bank because "it says so in the Bible":

     
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    Could be, but I believe the party he is trying to form a coalition with is considered "centrist" (parentheses for obvious reason). I would imagine, they would want some real concessions. I'm not really up on the current politics of Israel, but am pretty well informed about the formation of the state 70 odd years ago and the Palestinian people got the extremely short end of that stick.
     
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    This isn't really better or worse for Israel, but at least that piece of **** might finally be out of power.
     
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    Any conditions on the Palestinian authorities or should nothing they, or a potential state, do lead to sanctions? I think both are at fault so supporting only one doesn't make sense but sanctioning only one also doesn't make sense.
     
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    Also Arab countries (who in 1947-1948 refused to accept any part of the land going to a Jewish state) attacked it to destroy it in 1948 and 1973 (while Israel launched wars against them in 1956 and 1967), Israel being able to make lasting peace agreements with some of the Arab countries including Egypt and Jordan and withdrawing from Gaza, Israeli leaders offered to allow a Palestinian state from some 90% of the West Bank in 2000 and 2008 which was refused by the Palestinian leaders I think because the deal would also involve giving up a right of return.
     
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    What started this entire situation was the annexation of the land. You might say that it was okay or not. IMO not.
     
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    I don't think that has anything to do with saving Trump. This was like this before him, it will be for years to come.
     
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    It's quite ahistorical to say that the Arab countries who attacked Israel in 1973 did so in order to destroy Israel. Whether they wanted to do so or not (and pretty clearly at least some of them did), they were well aware that this simply wouldn't be possible. Rather, their objectives were much more limited: launch a surprise attack to recapture the lands Israel had taken in 1967 (Egypt would take the Sinai, and Syria the Golan Heights), and hope that with the huge arsenal they had been given by the USSR that they would be able to inflict sufficiently heavy losses on the IDF to force Israel to the negotiating table.
     
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    What do the mean "form a government"? Do they not have a foundation of government that is always in place?
     
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    A "government" means something different in countries with a parliamentary system. A government means a party or a coalition of parties has the majority of parliament. Its why Israel has been having so many elections, because no party could come up with a controlling stake coalition. They clearly have methods to allow the actual continuance of service of the state to work.

    Think of government as "administration" with a parliamentary system.
     
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    Well, that's only a good sign.
     
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    Jerusalem Post - PM Netanyahu shares article calling him an 'icon of the global right'
     
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    Mike Evans doesn't have any political power in Israel, right?
     
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    I have now clue. I'm not entirely sure how he is able to have a conference in the Knesset, but then again, I am not familiar enough with the details of how the Israeli government works.
     
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    Behold, the antisemitic support for Israel.
     
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    The evangelicals don't care about Israel, they care about their wacked out end times prophecies.
     
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