The James Cameron's "Avatar" Thread

[TNC9852002]

Hmmmm..

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Apparently Peter Jackson, Elijah Wood, etc. lobbied hard for Andy Serkis to be nominated for The Lord of the Rings, but the Academy rejected him because they said a computer generated character was not eligible.

So unless their rules have changed, Saldana wouldn't be eligible either. Which I personally think is BS, as Serkis and Saldana both 100% acted out their parts in the scenes with the other actors and the entire performaces were off their movements, voices, body language, and expressions. It's 100% their performance, even if they're not "in" the finished movie in the flesh.

And Serkis gave the most impressive performance in LOTR.

And Serkis' performance was far and away better than Saldana's, so she has virtually no chance.

 

[TNC9852002]

Whoa, SRSLY?

 

[Solidus]

And Serkis' performance was far and away better than Saldana's, so she has virtually no chance.

I will have to agree with this, I thought Serkis was superb as Golum, I was incredibly invested into his character.

 

[A&W]

And Serkis' performance was far and away better than Saldana's, so she has virtually no chance.

that might be the worst post in this thread. what you smoking man?

He did an excellent job but nowhere in the leage that Saldana gave in Avatar. I dont' even think he did as good of a job as she did in Star Trek, and her Star Trek performance was light years behind her Avatar performance.

 

[terry78]

As far as Gollum goes, he did good for a supporting CG character, but Neytiri was literally a top billed character who was on screen moreso than the live action actors.

 

[Kane52630]

so now it reached 10k. can i make a new thread?

 

[terry78]

I still say give it its own forum.

 

[Big Daddy]

And Serkis' performance was far and away better than Saldana's, so she has virtually no chance.

But Andy Sirkus was voice acting. his emotions and actions weren't being captured in the performance.

Avatar is an example where its pretty much the actors' performance without 5 hours of make up and prosthetics.

 

[Kane52630]

I still say give it its own forum.

i know, i asked if it can but was turned down



hey everyone CNN will have something about AVATAR, i just saw a quick snip of it in the intro

 

[BLACK-SPIDEY]

But Andy Sirkus was voice acting. his emotions and actions weren't being captured in the performance.

Avatar is an example where its pretty much the actors' performance without 5 hours of make up and prosthetics.

Just to let you know Andy´s actions were captured in performance.

 

[Kane52630]

ah i found out that Steven Lang will be on CNN right about now
everyone tune in

 

[DraganM]

And Serkis' performance was far and away better than Saldana's, so she has virtually no chance.

Maybe he did beter job. But effort from Zoe combined with current team in Weta left Golum in dust. Golum was grate performance. But I had 0% emotional investment in him.

Where you emotional invested in Golum?

 

[Sarge 2.0]

But Andy Sirkus was voice acting. his emotions and actions weren't being captured in the performance.

Avatar is an example where its pretty much the actors' performance without 5 hours of make up and prosthetics.

You don't know what you're talking about. Serkis was motion captured.

 

[BLACK-SPIDEY]

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/15043-ep036

pretty lame?

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Maybe he did beter job. But effort from Zoe combined with current team in Weta left Golum in dust. Golum was grate performance. But I had 0% emotional investment in him.

Where you emotional invested in Golum?

Yes, because he was a fully fleshed out character performed flawlessly by a veteran actor. Neytiri was barely a character at all, and Saldana overacted to make up for the lack of material to work with.

 

[DraganM]

But Andy Sirkus was voice acting. his emotions and actions weren't being captured in the performance.

Avatar is an example where its pretty much the actors' performance without 5 hours of make up and prosthetics.

Actually ... not really. That is more of marketing stunt. Technology is better put there is still a lot of artists from Zoe to final product.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

that might be the worst post in this thread. what you smoking man?

He did an excellent job but nowhere in the leage that Saldana gave in Avatar. I dont' even think he did as good of a job as she did in Star Trek, and her Star Trek performance was light years behind her Avatar performance.

All this convinces me is that you don't know good acting from a hole in the ground.

 

[Slusho]

that might be the worst post in this thread. what you smoking man?

He did an excellent job but nowhere in the leage that Saldana gave in Avatar. I dont' even think he did as good of a job as she did in Star Trek, and her Star Trek performance was light years behind her Avatar performance.

pretty bold statements here

IMO, her Star Trek performance was typical "Blockbuster acting", certainly not bad, but also nothing spectacular / memorable


and while I don't think that Andy' s performance was worse than Zoe's in Avatar, I still would give her the nod

simply because she was the 2nd lead and the whole concept of the movie relied on her and her range of emotions

if the audience wouldn't have bonded emotionally the way they apperantly have with her, nobody would understand why Jake leaves his race and his former life behind just to stay with the Navi, IMO

 

[Green Day]

saw this movie a 2nd time loved 2nd best movie of the year out 45 movies i have seen.

 

[DraganM]

Yes, because he was a fully fleshed out character performed flawlessly by a veteran actor. Neytiri was barely a character at all, and Saldana overacted to make up for the lack of material to work with.

I respect that .. but at the end. I do not care!

Golum didn't make emotional impact on me. I do not care what is 'fully flashed" or who is veteran actor. At the end you feel character or you do not.


Rest of this I will not comment. It looks like you have some issues with director of this movie. IMO

 

[BrettAnthony™]

And Serkis' performance was far and away better than Saldana's, so she has virtually no chance.

I don't really think thats true. I think Serkis did a wonderful job yes, but the emotion Zoe bought 2 the movie did it more for me than when i watched LOTR.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Also, I'd like to point out that motion capture does nothing to make an animated performance better or worse. Two spectacular performances this year that far surpass Saldana came from Jason Schwartzman and James Gandolfini in Fantastic Mr. Fox and Where The Wild Things Are, respectively. They brought dimension, life, and depth to their characters instead of just doing simplistic emotional cues, and they didn't even motion capture. If anyone should be nominated for portraying an animated character, it's one of those two.

 

[Kurosawa]

Yes, because he was a fully fleshed out character performed flawlessly by a veteran actor. Neytiri was barely a character at all, and Saldana overacted to make up for the lack of material to work with.

Well, I don't think that little of the character or the actor, but still, Neytiri could have been one of the best characters ever and Saldana could have given a Meryl + performance and the academy would still not nominate her for Avatar. It's not gonna happen.

 

[Kane52630]

nice interview by Lang

let me see if its online.