The Johns/Morrison Super Project

[The Batman]

^ By that same token, is there any proof that most of the population thought Green Lantern was black?

Its not like everyone who watched "superfriends" died off in 2000.

 

[Anubis]

But they should have.

 

[BrianWilly]

^ By that same token, is there any proof that most of the population thought Green Lantern was black?

Its not like everyone who watched "superfriends" died off in 2000.

Exactly, that was my whole point. There's absolutely no evidence for any of that stuff, so making grand sweeping generalizations like that just sounds silly. Yes, everyone I know personally thinks GL is a black guy, but that's anecdotal. "The vast majority of people"? I mean, the vast majority of what people? Americans? "Deep down to most everybody"? The heck does that even mean?

(Fun fact: Green Lantern and Flash weren't even regular Super Friends cast members.)

 

[GNR]

From the DC Nation panel

Morrison and Johns are collaborating on a new project. What could it be?

My theory: The return of the Big 7.

Does this really excite people still?

 

[hippie_hunter]

Exactly, that was my whole point. There's absolutely no evidence for any of that stuff, so making grand sweeping generalizations like that just sounds silly. Yes, everyone I know personally thinks GL is a black guy, but that's anecdotal. "The vast majority of people"? I mean, the vast majority of what people? Americans? "Deep down to most everybody"? The heck does that even mean?

(Fun fact: Green Lantern and Flash weren't even regular Super Friends cast members.)

To be fair, whenever Green Lantern is mentioned with people that I do know they always ask "Isn't Green Lantern a black guy?"

 

[hippie_hunter]

Does this really excite people still?

Yes, because, the Justice League sucks without the Big 7 and what I like to call the Little 8 (Black Canary, Green Arrow, Hawkman, the Atom, Zatanna, Firestorm, Red Tornado, and Elongated Man).

That's honestly what makes Giffen and DeMatteis' Justice League International so great because it was the one time that they actually managed to make the Justice League fantastic without them. And it's why the Avengers is the superior premier team because you don't need all of Marvel's version of the Big 7 and the amount of B-listers that are appropriate is much more expansive. The League is, and should be, very elitist IMO.

 

[IBRAH08]

To be fair, whenever Green Lantern is mentioned with people that I do know they always ask "Isn't Green Lantern a black guy?"

Yeah most people our age (I think you and I are close in age. Not in a stalker way ) know Stewart as GL.

Does this really excite people still?

It does me. But I might be nobody...

Yes, because, the Justice League sucks without the Big 7 and what I like to call the Little 8 (Black Canary, Green Arrow, Hawkman, the Atom, Zatanna, Firestorm, Red Tornado, and Elongated Man).

That's honestly what makes Giffen and DeMatteis' Justice League International so great because it was the one time that they actually managed to make the Justice League fantastic without them. And it's why the Avengers is the superior premier team because you don't need all of Marvel's version of the Big 7 and the amount of B-listers that are appropriate is much more expansive. The League is, and should be, very elitist IMO.

looks like I'm not

 

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah most people our age (I think you and I are close in age. Not in a stalker way ) know Stewart as GL.

Are you close to the age of 22?

It does me. But I might be nobody...


looks like I'm not

Thank you

 

[IBRAH08]

Are you close to the age of 22?


Thank you

Yeah, I'm 20

 

[The Batman]

I dont think Avengers is the superior premier team...in fact, I dont even think The Avengers were the most popular marvel team until Bendis' run...when they decided to add Spidey and Wolvie to the roster....

 

[Kurosawa]

I dont think Avengers is the superior premier team...in fact, I dont even think The Avengers were the most popular marvel team until Bendis' run...when they decided to add Spidey and Wolvie to the roster....

I love the Avengers but traditionally they could in no way compare to the JLA for pure star power. Supes, Bats and WW all three are better known than Cap. And that's not to slight Cap and Thor is my favorite Marvel character, but it just is what it is.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Only reason I think it would be a JLA project with Morrison simply offering some sort of help or creative ideas is because I'm sure DC isn't happy with the status of the JLA ever since OYL.

As to the comments about Wally and Barry Johns said that after some big arc there is going to be a sort of team Flash book called the Speed Force or something for Wally and Bart to be real big in similar to that of the format with GLC.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I dont think Avengers is the superior premier team...in fact, I dont even think The Avengers were the most popular marvel team until Bendis' run...when they decided to add Spidey and Wolvie to the roster....

I love the Avengers but traditionally they could in no way compare to the JLA for pure star power. Supes, Bats and WW all three are better known than Cap. And that's not to slight Cap and Thor is my favorite Marvel character, but it just is what it is.

Well of course the Avengers doesn't have the star power that the Justice League has. But I personally find them to be the superior premier team because it allows more characters to thrive. They're the everyman's premier superteam.

 

[Hush]

Considering Lee is a co-publisher, I'd say he still has too much on his plate to be drawing comics.

He said when he took the role that he was doing it so he could draw more often. Plus him being the lead Designer on DCUO has taken him away from the drawing board for comics.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah, now that DCUO is pretty much done, I'm expecting a lot more from Lee.

 

[Mystirious]

He said when he took the role that he was doing it so he could draw more often. Plus him being the lead Designer on DCUO has taken him away from the drawing board for comics.

Means that the designs for DCUO will be fab though

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well of course the Avengers doesn't have the star power that the Justice League has. But I personally find them to be the superior premier team because it allows more characters to thrive. They're the everyman's premier superteam.

Wow, I've never, ever thought of the Avengers that way. I mean, some incarnations, maybe, but I'm not sure how you get to an everyman team with at least one god, a living legend, and like 2 or 3 super-geniuses the majority of the time...

 

[hippie_hunter]

Wow, I've never, ever thought of the Avengers that way. I mean, some incarnations, maybe, but I'm not sure how you get to an everyman team with at least one god, a living legend, and like 2 or 3 super-geniuses the majority of the time...

Because even with the God and living legend, as long as a hero is good and worthy enough, they'll fit in with the Avengers just fine. For every Thor, there's a Spider-Man. For every Captain America, there's a Luke Cage. Hell, we now have an era where everyone but Daredevil is an Avenger now. In Bendis' New Avengers we had the Avengers (that had Iron Man and Captain America) simply patrol the streets for the everyman.

The Justice League on the other hand, it's an elitist club that take on the biggest threats. They would look out of place simply patrolling the streets together. And anyone who isn't the Big 7 and Little 8 look out of place on the team, even if they are worthy and good enough.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, and New Avengers was f***ing terrible. I suppose the concept can work in theory on that level, but the Avengers are at their best to me when they're working on a global scale or greater. I don't really see too much separation between them and the JLA in that respect, although I do agree that their membership can be far more accommodating of lower-tier heroes. The Avengers can and have been good plenty of times without the big three or even Pym, the Wasp, the Vision, and the others who comprise their "inner circle," if you will.

 

[Tron Bonne]

It's not as if the Justice League has to be that way, though. You make it sound as if it's some kind of unwritten rule or something. The fact that JLI exists and is generally seen in a good light proves it can be another way.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

True, but that's more the exception than the rule. I can point out a bunch of times when Thor or Iron Man or Cap or any of the other well known Avengers staples were missing but the series was still great. It's tougher to point to anything other than the JLI as a time when the big 7 were all or largely absent yet it still remained good.

 

[hippie_hunter]

True, but that's more the exception than the rule. I can point out a bunch of times when Thor or Iron Man or Cap or any of the other well known Avengers staples were missing but the series was still great. It's tougher to point to anything other than the JLI as a time when the big 7 were all or largely absent yet it still remained good.

Tougher? It's flat out impossible. The JLI is the only time where the Justice League was good when most/all of the Big 7 were absent.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well, if it's 'flat out impossible', then the JLI wouldn't have worked out. I mean, yeah, that definitely is an exception over the rule, but exceptions usually mean that it can be done.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But the point is it hasn't really been done outside of the JLI.

 

[Hush]

Justice League Detroit is a perfect example of it not working. Or am I think Justice League Extreme?