Joker "The Joker" in development with Todd Phillips and Martin Scorsese attached? - Part 2

[Rodimus]

Im gonna be unpopular again.

Ive seen some articles , videos and comments that say Joker will make a profit of $550 mil and that this is on par with what EndGame did.

Let me comment on that. Both are wrong.

1st of all EndGame and Infinity War made a total profit of $1350 mil which averages at $675 mil per film.

A $1050 mil combined budget (production & marketing) with a $4840 mil total gross which is roughly a $2400 mil profit minus the cost leaves as with $1350 mil profit.

2nd Joker has a production cost of $55-70 mil which is easily $100 mil with marketing or even higher.

Lets assume the total cost is $90 mil. Now lets assume the final total gross is $950 mil (if it doesnt get an expansion or re-release).

$950 total gross means a $475 mil profit minus the $90 mil cost leaves as with a $385 mil profit.

So yeah Joker wont make a $550 mil profit nor is it on par with the profits of Avengers IW or EG which is $675 mil per film.

But dont get trigerred. Joker is a win win and it doesnt need to compare with Avengers.
Its a huge critical and box office success regardless.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Fantastic news, right there.

 

[Detective Conan]

Ironically, the massive controversy storm surrounding this movie may have helped more than hurt this movie’s box office.

 

[Arachnerd]

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what I like to call karma. The US media tried so hard to tear down this movie and fearmonger potential mass shootings that it would cause, and it backfired miserably.

 

[Iceman]

The funny thing is, before Joker came out, there were concerns that giving him an origin would ruin the character's mystique. The irony now is that a sequel to the movie might do the same.

Haha, can’t win. As far I see just make whatever you want to make and do it as well as possible and good things will happen.

 

[Iceman]

Another insanely small drop from last week! Last Monday it made $1,768,872. At this point, I have no clue where this movie is going to land domestically. This movie is killing it!

Massive domestic landmark regardless of its amazing overseas performance.

 

[Greenlite]

Rewatched Phoenix interview on Letterman from years back. Man, that is straight up Jokerish. I'm even assuming Todd took inspiration from it for THAT scene with Deniro towards the end. Brilliant.

He apologized to Letterman years later on the show, could do the same with Murray, somehow, lol

 

[Greenlite]

Im gonna be unpopular again.

Ive seen some articles , videos and comments that say Joker will make a profit of $550 mil and that this is on par with what EndGame did.

Let me comment on that. Both are wrong.

1st of all EndGame and Infinity War made a total profit of $1350 mil which averages at $675 mil per film.

A $1050 mil combined budget (production & marketing) with a $4840 mil total gross which is roughly a $2400 mil profit minus the cost leaves as with $1350 mil profit.

2nd Joker has a production cost of $55-70 mil which is easily $100 mil with marketing or even higher.

Lets assume the total cost is $90 mil. Now lets assume the final total gross is $950 mil (if it doesnt get an expansion or re-release).

$950 total gross means a $475 mil profit minus the $90 mil cost leaves as with a $385 mil profit.

So yeah Joker wont make a $550 mil profit nor is it on par with the profits of Avengers IW or EG which is $675 mil per film.

But dont get trigerred. Joker is a win win and it doesnt need to compare with Avengers.
Its a huge critical and box office success regardless.

Endgame probably earned close to a billion profit, based on Deadline’s article, Joker was already close to IW with about 450M profit, and they were basing it on around 925M box office, so Joker is gonna beat IW profit wise.

Endgame has the highest profit still, but ratio wise, as in risk reward, Joker takes the cake.

 

[Greenlite]

the more i think about todd phillips' joker, the more it reminds me of 1997's "Made in Hong Kong"

it's like joker's more arthouse, asian cousin.
it is less disturbing, but i feel it is equally as sad and bleak.

the story even has some parallels to joker:

- a poor, disenfranchised young man lives in the projects of hong kong with his mother, pressure from all the bad circumstances around him causes him to lose hope and he resorts to violence at the end.

for all you arthouse aficionados, check it out if you can.
it might be hard to find, i watched in on vhs about 20 years ago




this was made right around when hk was handed over back to china.
they'll probably never movies like this again in hong kong.

They just do it in real life now, yikes

 

[chintai80]

They just do it in real life now, yikes

oh yea this movie was made in '97.
i think the ending was trying to make a political statement.
cuz in it, a radio was broadcasting some kind of mainland china propaganda talking about how the future is going to be bright and hopeful.

but it juxtaposes with this hong kong youth leaning dead against a tombstone.

it was bleak man.

and it feels like its become more reality now.

 

[Greenlite]

oh yea this movie was made in '97.
i think the ending was trying to make a political statement.
cuz in it, a radio was broadcasting some kind of mainland china propaganda talking about how the future is going to be bright and hopeful.

but it juxtaposes with this hong kong youth leaning dead against a tombstone.

it was bleak man.

and it feels like its become more reality now.

That’s next level prophet lol

Or many clear head people have warned in the 70s and 80s.

Oh well at least they get to enjoy Joker n 2019. Unlike the mainlanders watching it on cam quality online, then brag about how great they are, lol.

 

[Binker]

Question: was it released why 1981, that particular year, was chosen?

 

[Micromind]

BTS pics posted by the director.

 

[Micromind]

 

[Yowza]

I just checked Rotten Tomatoes and 2 new reveiws popped up this week from critics bringing total from 504 to 506.

Lawrence Ware's review at the top of pg. Was fresh a weeks ago and now is changed to a Rotten for some reason. It's like things are subtly being tweaked to keep it at 69% so as not to mess with the certified status.

 

[Greenlite]

I just checked Rotten Tomatoes and 2 new reveiws popped up this week from critics bringing total from 504 to 506.

Lawrence Ware's review at the top of pg. Was fresh a weeks ago and now is changed to a Rotten for some reason. It's like things are subtly being tweaked to keep it at 69% so as not to mess with the certified status.

500+ reviews lol WTF, pop cultural event treatment

 

[Greenlite]

Watched a couple of bts clips, would love to watch the blu Ray commentary, they are quite in depth and Joaquin is just amazing, the opening scene he had tears first take, and Todd actually got the score done before filming and play it on set for mood.

 

[thangaran]

Watched a couple of bts clips, would love to watch the blu Ray commentary, they are quite in depth and Joaquin is just amazing, the opening scene he had tears first take, and Todd actually got the score done before filming and play it on set for mood.

are there official behind the scenes clips or are the clips you saw ones of people filming the shooting from far away?

 

[Pennywise]

Friday Box Office: ‘Terminator: Dark Fate’ Plunges 73% As ‘Joker’ Nears $1 Billion

In better news, Warner Bros.’ Joker is continuing to do its thing. It earned $2.51 million (-34%) on Friday for a new $306.802 million domestic cume. Presuming it has maintained that 32%/68% domestic/overseas split, the film has earned, on a $62.5 million budget, $958.7 million worldwide. As noted yesterday, that makes it the most profitable comic book movie, in terms of “rate of return” budget versus global gross, of all time. It’ll earn $9.22 million (-32%) in weekend six for a $313.5 million domestic cume, just shy of Thor: Ragnarok ($315 million in 2017), a new $980 million global cume. The DC Films flick is essentially holding up Warner Bros.’ entire year-end dramatic slate. And yeah, it should be over the $1 billion mark in a week.

 

[geosphere]

Monday should be strong domestically too considering Monday is veterans day which is recognized as a national holiday. ...That is my guess anyway. Studios should really respect the first weekend of October as a prime release date especially when you consider all of the holidays that exist between October and November. It's a lot more than I really took time to think about and I'm talking about the ones that exist well before thanksgiving. There is no doubt that Joker's domestic totals are benefiting from that.

 

[Detective Conan]

Off-topic: Terminator just got Terminated.

By Roland Emmerich no less, lol.

On-topic: Man, Joker is killing it at the box office. This is a phenomenon.

 

[Greenlite]

are there official behind the scenes clips or are the clips you saw ones of people filming the shooting from far away?

YouTube Todd Philips opening scene joker, it's an official commentary

 

[Pennywise]

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

 

[dhandler01]

The countdown to a Billion is underway! Now it is just a matter of what day it happens!