At the same time, comic Joker's evilness is pretty timeless. Making him sympathetic is risky territory IMO; it worked for that movie and The Killing Joke. When you start giving The Joker layers like empathy and compassion like Suicide Squad (at least that's the way it was presented), you've f**ked up.
That would be interesting. I'd imagine that being close to Scott Snyder's interpretation of Joker where he felt much more like the bogeyman; an almost supernatural force of nature that has Batman questioning his humanity or rather, the complete absence of it
Huh.. I wonder what relevent aspect of society Reeves' Joker could personify.
I honestly don't want another society Joker. I get that he represents our evil side and all that, but not every version has to be making a statement. I'd be down with a boogeyman-type Joker, especially if these movies might be retconned into a larger universe.
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That's a fair point. I guess I meant that they don't have to lean into the societal aspects that much like they did with Joaquin and Heath.
Of course, he should still have that showy flair and intelligence.
Good point! Not unless they use Flash point Batman or just a brutal Batman. That would be great! The good thing about comic book character they can be R or PG-13 when needed. So it can work especially in story mode, just show blood but not too much and of course cut down on the cussing
You could really just lean into the primal fear of the unknown that all humans have. I don't think we've ever had a truly terrifying take on the Joker that emphasizes the disturbing nature of the character
Even so, I'd like a more hedonistic Joker. Even in most comics, chaos isn't his one true end-all-be-all motivation. He usually just uses it as a means to an end IIRC
I both agree and disagree with this idea. He could depend on Batman to give his life some kind of purpose, but I'm not sure if he needs a reason for doing what he does (most of the time anyways). He can still do stuff on the side from time to time but it could always come back to Batman at the end of the day. And he can still be a nihilist.
I'm curious to see what Reeves does, because he's already described Ledger's take as "totally nihilistic" so idk if he'd want to tread over that same water. It makes me wonder if he'd want to try and find an all new angle to tackle.
We kinda already got that though. And it was great anyways. I'd rather have something a little more traditional
You mean like a clinical Antisocial Personality Disorder angle?
I agree! We already got that in spades with Nolan Joker and with the movie Joker. I want the comic book Joker for the big screen.
Idk Reeves said interviews he doesn't want to make his Batman films like Nolan's Batman films. I'm thinking he will put his spin on him and mixed it with the comic book Joker. We know he is big Batman fan and like combine the history of the characters(going by his Batman look, there is history in there from Batman first appearance to The 60s show to Zero Year to Gaslight etc in the suit alone). So we might get a real treat with his Joker!
I think he is making gritty, grounded and combining that with comics(the history of the characters). I'm going by what was leaked a while back and his interviews about the movie. He doesn't want to go the Nolan route with his Batman movies. I think that's why Robert let it slip by accident that Joaquin Phoenix's Joker wouldn't meet his Batman. This movie is the reason The Batgirl and Nightwing got stalled. So they might be building a huge sandbox for Reeves Batman universe. The director of The Nightwing movie was excited and know a lot about Reeves Batman movie. He said the stall of his Nightwing isn't a bad thing and that is all he can say. So if that mean anything I am excited for this movie and the future for Batman! Now for Superman because he deserves it badly and then a World Finest movie
