The Justice League General & Speculation Discussion Thread - Part 3

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[dhandler01]

He never said it was a fact. It was a mix of speculation and inside knowledge, at least it felt that way to me.

From what I can tell it has zero to do with inside knowledge and everything to do with him pulling crap out of his ass trying to read tea leaves that arent there. Collider does this all the time and then when they get called out for it cry like 3 year olds. (Campea did this just a couple of months ago) They throw some crap against the wall about the DCEU knowing it will get posted on boards like this, they up their click totals and then completely walk away when they are wrong.

Put it this way, I would sooner believe they got scammed by an April Fools Day Joke and ran with it then I would Schnepp has any insight into the situation.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

From what I can tell it has zero to do with inside knowledge and everything to do with him pulling crap out of his ass trying to read tea leaves that arent there. Collider does this all the time and then when they get called out for it cry like 3 year olds. (Campea did this just a couple of months ago) They throw some crap against the wall about the DCEU knowing it will get posted on boards like this, they up their click totals and then completely walk away when they are wrong.

Put it this way, I would sooner believe they got scammed by an April Fools Day Joke and ran with it then I would Schnepp has any insight into the situation.

I love the Collider crew. But the way Schnepp has presented this idea along with allusions to insider info is reminding me of his talk that George Miller was a lock for handling a DC film.

 

[Micromind]

WB are keeping a tight lid over all their future plans, I really doubt that Schnepp has any worthwhile info about anything related to future DCEU movies.

Edit: Look at how Whedon as a director for Batgirl was a complete surprise for everyone.

 

[dhandler01]

JMC,

Collider heroes is not the Hype. Talk about a false equivalency.

If Schnepp didnt play up his "being close to the business" and his "sources" maybe you would have a point. Maybe if Collider didnt do this all the time to up their numbers you would have a point.

If you say you think this will happen we all know you are just hypothesizing because you are just a random on a message board. Schepp knows no one watching is thinking that when he says his little fanboy theories. Look at how people ran with it here like it was fact. Look at people using his "connections" to legitimize it. That is the difference.

Anyone can post a ridiculous idea from infowars on Twitter and it can be ignored. When the President repeats it at a press conference or tweets about it you give it more weight.

 

[jmc]

JMC,

Collider heroes is not the Hype. Talk about a false equivalency.

If Schnepp didnt play up his "being close to the business" and his "sources" maybe you would have a point. Maybe if Collider didnt do this all the time to up their numbers you would have a point.

If you say you think this will happen we all know you are just hypothesizing because you are just a random on a message board. Schepp knows no one watching is thinking that when he says his little fanboy theories. Look at how people ran with it here like it was fact. Look at people using his "connections" to legitimize it. That is the difference.

Anyone can post a ridiculous idea from infowars on Twitter and it can be ignored. When the President repeats it at a press conference or tweets about it you give it more weight.

At no point did Schnepp say what he was saying was some type of scoop or in anyway the truth. It was clearly someone spit balling ideas on camera, no different to what many of us here do. It's the responsibility of the viewer to actually listen to what is being said as opposed to thinking they know what was said. Just because Schnepp works for Collider doesn't mean he's not entitled to speculate about the same things we are, and I say that as someone who doesn't care all that much for Collider.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

At no point did Schnepp say what he was saying was some type of scoop or in anyway the truth. It was clearly someone spit balling ideas on camera, no different to what many of us here do. It's the responsibility of the viewer to actually listen to what is being said as opposed to thinking they know what was said. Just because Schnepp works for Collider doesn't mean he's not entitled to speculate about the same things we are, and I say that as someone who doesn't care all that much for Collider.

True enough except he then went on to say he was aware of information not public yet that would back up his speculations. It blurred the lines as to what is just a known personality theorizing and speculating for fun and that same person teasing a scoop or insider knowledge. I think that's what is rubbing some wrong.

 

[jmc]

True enough except he then went on to say he was aware of information not public yet that would back up his speculations. It blurred the lines as to what is just a known personality theorizing and speculating for fun and that same person teasing a scoop or insider knowledge. I think that's what is rubbing some wrong.

And maybe he does have knowledge we don't have to back up what he says, but people have the option to take what he says with a grain of salt. The thing is Schnepp isn't a reporter, so he's not exactly in the scoop game, so what he says should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[idiot09]

Think about this logically guys, we're about to get the very first Justice League movie about these heroes coming together.....and they're going to end that movie by retconning everything? A movie that has been said many many times to be acting as the rebirth/redemption movie for Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman and them banding together. Its all going to be erased in the very first film? LMAO. Yeah. Ok. Then what the Hell would be the point of this movie in this first place?

There is no Flashpoint. There is 110% no Flashpoint going on in this. This is just what people who dont like the DCEU want.

Absolutely.

 

[Boom]

I'm confused as to why Schnepp is talking like a Matt Reeves Batman trilogy and a Matthew Vaughn Superman movie are givens.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think he just gets really caught up in his theorizing. Vaughn is not even in talks for Superman because if he were Variety and THR would report that. I'm not saying WB doesn't want him but he isn't in talks. And we have no idea whether Reeves wants to make a Batman trilogy.

 

[king666]

Flashpoint would be kinda confusing for general audiences. Way easier to just change the tone and ignore everything that came before.

 

[STARMAN]

I'm watching Schnepp right now. He's clearly just throwing out theories. He's not pretending to have an exclusive scoop as fact.

Flashpoint is unnecessary.

 

[The Guard]

Yup

Imagine Flash runs back and erases everything, and suddenly Bruce Wayne is played by, say, Jake Gyllenhaal, in the same movie, and the re-energized Superman is now, re-energized and the loving, humane Wondy (the one that was well received in BvS and possibly WW) is now...loving and humane?

The same folks who ridiculed the Knightmare sequence now expect GA to not go WTF is this s*** when they see Flashpoint in the first JL.

Heh.

 

[Micromind]

I get it, we are getting a "soft reboot" after JL, Affleck walks out, the DC universe is reset by Flash, now we will get younger Batman...... new actors for Batman, Commissioner Gordon, Alfred, Harley Quinn and Joker.

Maybe we will get rid of Henry Cavill and Gal Gadot too. Can't wait to see new "Origin" stories for both Superman and Wonder Woman once the universe is rebooted.

New origins stories that have fun and hope, make DC great again.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I get it, we are getting a "soft reboot" after JL, Affleck walks out the DC universe is reset by Flash, now we will get a younger Batman, a new actors for Batman, Commissioner Gordon, Alfred, Harley Quinn and Joker.

Maybe we will get rid of Henry Cavill and Gal Gadot too. Cannot wait to see new "Origin" stories for both Superman and Wonder Woman once the universe is rebooted.

I know you're joking but if WB/DC were to ignore MOS and BvS from here on out, I'll be very very unhappy.

I want payoffs for the Trinity after the first 2 movies and the WW solo. I'm eagerly waiting for a more fun approach but not the expense of what came before. WB/DC can very well do the hope and optimism part in JL and further movies while still acknowledging the rather bleak part of the heroes journey in the DCEU.

 

[Paradox1]

They aren't rebooting the universe, it's a ridiculous idea. Being a lighter and brighter universe isn't what the DCEU needs. Just tell good stories and people will continue to come see your movies

 

[Limonade]

They aren't rebooting the universe, it's a ridiculous idea. Being a lighter and brighter universe isn't what the DCEU needs. Just tell good stories and people will continue to come see your movies

And if they are rebooting it. Who cares?

It just means it's going to go in a different direction. It does not mean DC is dead in the water.

 

[idiot09]

Its really funny though. Schnepp makes a comment out of his ass, and suddenly everybody is thinking about reboots.

There is not going to be a reboot let that be soft or hard anytime soon as long as these movies keep making money as they do.

Its just wishful thinking on the part of some, and for others its just ****-stirring.

 

[Greens]

It was 100% clear that Schnepp was just throwing a theory out there. He LITERALLY said "this isn't gonna happen".

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It was 100% clear that Schnepp was just throwing a theory out there. He LITERALLY said "this isn't gonna happen".

Yep.

 

[idiot09]

Good then. Because I dont see it happening either.

 

[Bagide]

No need for flashpoint to occur. Snyder already does the effects of certain events in his dream scenes/sequences. Let the director who'll direct the flash borrow that method.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It wouldn't happen with the same director that made the previous films anyway. They'd get another director if they wanted that kind of soft reboot.

Anyway it's not going to happen. WB said they were going to change things and I hope they keep their word.