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Pepper gets superpowers.
Mandarin gets nothing.
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Pepper gets superpowers.
Mandarin gets nothing.
......?????????
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Pepper gets superpowers.
Mandarin gets nothing.
......?????????
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Mandarin was Killian. He wasn't that great a character to begin with, Iron Man isn't Spider-Man or Batman, he's the selling point not his rogues. Most casual fans were upset with the Arc Reactor being removed rather than the Mandarin reveal.
Except the ability to breathe fire, cut through Stark armor with his bare hands, throw massive objects around like they're made out of paper, and the ability to instantly regenerate and regrow lost limbs. Did I leave anything out?
I have 2 other points of contention. First is the lack of SHIELD. Granted, this was supposed to be a non-Avengers story...however, the President is kidnapped, you have a super-villian blowing stuff up all across the country, and yet, other than a mention of Tony using their database, it's as if SHIELD doesn't exist. Don't get me wrong, I feel this needed to be an Iron Man centric story, however, I fel like they went out of their way to make SHIELD invisible in the movie, and it ultimately did a disservice to the film. I feel there could have been ways to incorporate SHIELD into the plot of the film, while still leaving this as Tony's problem to solve.
Finally, there is the relationship between Rhodey and Tony. Is it just me, or did it feel like Rhodey and Tony were more "passing aquaintences" than real friends and heroic partners in this film? In the final fight, War Machine isn't even hardly involved, and the majority of the movie the two of them are apart. Furthermore, there isn't even a single instance of Tony questioning why War Machine didn't have his back in New York. Heck, in the bar scene they could have had Tony giving Rhodey a bad time for missing the battle with the Chitauri and that would have been not only a nod to the Avengers, but also tie up the question of why War Machine was non existent in the attack.
I loved it. It was probably the most original and fun part of the film. However, keep in mind that Mandarin is not an iconic villain like Red Skull or Green Goblin. He's only Iron Man's archenemy by default because he has the worst rogues gallery of pretty much any major superhero. So it didn't bother that they 'ruined' him, unlike it would if it was say...Dr. Doom.
Exactly. I find it funny now that all of a sudden, Mandarin is now considered an iconic comic book villain when in fact I personally don't think any of Iron Man's best comic book stories even had The Mandarin in it.
Exactly. I find it funny now that all of a sudden, Mandarin is now considered an iconic comic book villain when in fact I personally don't think any of Iron Man's best comic book stories even had The Mandarin in it.
I loved it. It was probably the most original and fun part of the film. However, keep in mind that Mandarin is not an iconic villain like Red Skull or Green Goblin. He's only Iron Man's archenemy by default because he has the worst rogues gallery of pretty much any major superhero. So it didn't bother that they 'ruined' him, unlike it would if it was say...Dr. Doom.
How are you defining "iconic". As someone who didn't read comics, I wouldn't say Green Goblin was iconic. I always thought Dr. Octopus was Spider-man's arch enemy. Never even heard of Loki for most of my life, and they still made him bad ass. Galactus wasn't iconic, and I always found him corny, but everybody lost their minds because of how he was treated in the second Fantastic Four movie, and understandably so. Iron Monger, Whiplash, and even Justin Hammer were much more awesome in their movies, and they are less iconic than Mandarin. So I'm not sure why Mandarin getting the shaft is acceptable.
Oh, and why is this poll closed already? The movie has only been out for four days in America. I would like to add my voice to the dissatisfaction.
I loved it. It was probably the most original and fun part of the film. However, keep in mind that Mandarin is not an iconic villain like Red Skull or Green Goblin. He's only Iron Man's archenemy by default because he has the worst rogues gallery of pretty much any major superhero. So it didn't bother that they 'ruined' him, unlike it would if it was say...Dr. Doom.
I felt like this version could have been iconic and a proper arch-villain for Stark had they actually gone with it. I loved what they had done with the multi-cultural look and stately voice that seemed to be mocking the U.S.
The Mandarin seen in the trailers + Magic rings = potential Loki levels of awesome.