Saitou Hajime
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Where's any objective evidence of that?
None, hence the inverted commas.
Where's any objective evidence of that?
None, hence the inverted commas.
I just hate people that recist seeing flaws in a movie just because they enjoyed it. I loved The Dark Knight Rises and my enjoyment of it was 11/10 but I see it's not flawless, I really enjoyed The Amazing Spider-Man but I recognize it's flaws. But some of these guys, even after a sensible argument just can't say "oh I kinda see where you're coming from, but I still enjoyed it myself". Kinda petty
This topic isn't going anywhere. I'm gonna leave with these words: the twist didn't work on solid logic, but hey, if some of you enjoyed it, great. I personally hated it
cheers to you all
Any good writer could make the rings mesh with Mandarin.
Any good writer could make the rings mesh with Mandarin.
Exactly. There is no excuse for the underwhelming Mandarin Marvel introduced on the big screen. I mean, seriously. Mandarin is really the only thing that interests me about Iron Man and it was fudged.
So, you don't care about the man vs machine dichotomy, Tony's ambiguous moral history, the self-made hero theme, the fact that Iron Man is a hero by his own design as opposed to those who have heroism thrust upon them by accident, and all those things that make Iron Man an interesting hero in his own right? You define Iron Man by one of his villains who was a caricature when he was conceived and has fared little better over time? Seriously?
In that case, what business did you have watching the first two movies, or The Avengers, or anything else that didn't have Mandarin in it but did have Iron Man?
I don't get it.
Anything is possible for the man who doesn't have to do it. Don't say its easy to make the rings work. Say *how* you would make the rings work.
Alien tech crafts the body of the rings; Extremis powers the rings. Ten Rings spies learn about Tony's PTSD from the Chitauri invasion. The Mandarin does a deal with one of Thanos's agents sent to Earth after the events of The Avengers. This agent is on Earth to gather intel on the Avengers for Thanos. So Mandarin becomes one of Thanos's lieutenants on Earth.
If you'd rather detach the film from the greater MCU, the Mandarin heads the Ten Rings and learns about Killian's Extremis project. The Mandarin's Ten Rings gets Killian's attention and enter into his employ. Killian uses Ten Rings as terrorist boogeymen to advance his corporation. Through their partnership, Mandarin is able to infiltrate Killian's company and obtain the Extremis. Afterward, Mandarin double-crosses Killian and kills him. Then we'd learn that Mandarin holds disgust toward self-styled heroes, and goes to war against Tony Stark. The Mandarin would target Tony because he sees Stark as the figurehead of the Avengers.
That would over-complicate a character who, frankly, could use a bit of simplifying in the comics, to make all his power in-keeping with his themes. His themes are about social darwinism. To quote one of his speeches: ""to know you are superior, in mind, in body, in spirit, is everything!"
1) You seem to be implying that the Avengers revolves around Iron Man and his story? Last time I checked the Avengers team doesn't consist solely of Iron Man.
2) I go to the movies to support Marvel and comicbook movies in general. Who are you to question that?
3) I actually enjoyed the first Iron Man movie, it's a great movie. I was entertained by Iron Man 3 but its interpretation of the Mandarin ruined the overall experience for me. Point blank.
4) We don't agree...you attempting to justify Marvel's cinematic interpretation of the Mandarin by berating the version I prefer won't change that. I'm a big boy capable of thinking for myself. I hope that sticks in the future.
Okay. Taking your post into account, the Mandarin views Extremis as a challenge. Something powerful and dangerous to be mastered. To that end, he creates each of the rings that let him sling Extremis in different ways.
any good writer could make the rings mesh with mandarin.