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Surfer said:Comic Book Therapy sat down & discussed Iron Man 3 with writer Drew Pearce & Director Shane Black, and one of those things discussed was once again the Mandarin twist. Article below.
http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/sha...otts-sex-tape-tony-with-a-gun-and-more-159814
I personally wouldn't mind there being a twist on the twist, where Trevor was playing Tony all along & he truly is the Mandarin. I mean if they can kill off Agent Coulson & then have him return in Agents of Shield, Marvel could probably retcon some scenes in a one shot or after scenes credits showing how Trevor knew Tony had arrived at his lair, and he calls Killian notifying him that everything is going according to plan and that he will play Tony into the Trap and that Killian is to assume the Mandarin persona in case things go south. I mean he did say you will never see me coming, what better way to not see your enemy coming then to think they are dead. I know Shane Black is not a fan of the idea, but Drew Pearce seemed to be somewhat open to it. For me if Marvel did this I think it would save the film for me, because right now I can't see me watching it again, much less buying it like I have all of the other Marvel Studio's productions. Sad, because I love Marvel & their characters way more then the 95% general public that they are targeting, and it's strange because they tout them as Comic Book movies, yet they seem to do their best to remove much of the comic book type elements from these movies and just reinterpret them as typical Sci Fi Movies.
Surfer
On one hand, I love that he doesn't cater to fans wants and needs, OTOH...that was a little too blunt, the sex tape thing would have been terrible.
Yeah to the sex tape idea. I like that about Black, too. As I've reiterated on here many times, I don't mind the twist Black added at all. I just felt like Killian was a badly written character.
I do have to agree with Black that retconning Trevor into being the real Mandarin isn't a good idea. Killian as the MCU Mandarin can easily work with some development.
I do have to agree with Black that retconning Trevor into being the real Mandarin isn't a good idea. Killian as the MCU Mandarin can easily work with some development.
But he isn't, and that's not going to change. Like, seriously. Even if they did want that to be a theory, you literally hear Killian pronounce "I am the Mandarin". Seriously getting tired of this argument.
I've been tired of that argument for months. Its desperate flailing out of the worst fan fiction. "Killian eventually puts his body back together" is *vastly* more likely than any variation of "Trevor was actually the real Mandarin from the start."
Didn't Tony blow up & destroy Killian / Mandarin in one of his suits, so not sure how he is going to work with some development, except to say they did bring back Coulson so I suppose they could do it with Killian too. However, I would still prefer if they could come up with a logical way for Kingsley to return as the real Mandarin. He was way more menacing as a villain then Killian, and he is the only one I would want to see return as the Mandarin.
Surfer
Why is it *vastly* more likely that Killian is able to put his body back together after it has been blown to bits? I mean sure they are bringing Coulson back after what appeared to be a terminal wound, but I don't think Marvel should bring back every character that dies especially one that would have been destroyed so completely. I mean you seen how Jack Taggert exploded, there was nothing left.
I think they left it ambigous enough where they could easily bring him back if the wanted to.
I was under the impression that Taggert's body wasn't really accepting Extremis, hence why there was nothing left of him. Conversely, Killian was able to survive Mark 42 exploding while encased in it. IMO, its not a stretch that he could've survived the missle detonation.
But he isn't, and that's not going to change. Like, seriously. Even if they did want that to be a theory, you literally hear Killian pronounce "I am the Mandarin". Seriously getting tired of this argument.
Killian does literally say "I am the Mandarin" however that doesn't mean anything. I mean it could if you interpret it that way but I interpreted at a form of him gloating to Tony Stark that he fooled him and ultimately everyone. He was being cocky with that statement. At least in my eyes it came off that way.