*The New Superhero Cinematic Civil War Thread - Part 61

I don't get everyone's beef with Obi Wan, I personally thought it was swell.

But then again, I just watch enough Star Wars to have a polite conversation with folks. :o
I like Star Wars a lot, but I don’t count myself into their fandom. Which is probably why I love Episode 7, Solo, Obi Wan, Book of Boba Fett, and I though Andor was boring and pretentious.
 
I will say that I had a suspicion that they made Shalla Bal the Surfer instead of Norrin to distance themselves a bit from FF: Rise of the Silver Surfer and after watching this trailer I'm starting to believe it. Of course they're going to do a better job at adapting Galactus but the fact that there's another scene of Johnny chasing the Surfer with similar beats as ROTSS is...well, it's interesting.
 
I will say that I had a suspicion that they made Shalla Bal the Surfer instead of Norrin to distance themselves a bit from FF: Rise of the Silver Surfer and after watching this trailer I'm starting to believe it. Of course they're going to do a better job at adapting Galactus but the fact that there's another scene of Johnny chasing the Surfer with similar beats as ROTSS is...well, it's interesting.
Also, love interest for Johnny.

There are more then a few shots that look like the Story movies. Which makes sense but is also funny.
 
Of course. But I'm kind of shocked by the marketing for FF. It's weak and rushed.
The interest has been there for it though. It's gotten all the attention of the movies this year since the long casting process. The marketing for this I expect to kick into high gear after Thunderbolts is gone. Marvel tends to not over do the marketing of the next movie after the current one that's coming. They'll still have 2 months once Thunderbolts has been out already to get that next gear. It will be fine
 
The interest has been there for it though. It's gotten all the attention of the movies this year since the long casting process. The marketing for this I expect to kick into high gear after Thunderbolts is gone. Marvel tends to not over do the marketing of the next movie after the current one that's coming. They'll still have 2 months once Thunderbolts has been out already to get that next gear. It will be fine
The old way of marketing these movies was fine, when they were hot. When they were hot, Thunderbolts low end box office prediction at this point would be 85m. That's not how it is now.

They've had some real struggles at he box office recently. I get that it's two superhero movies, but other studios competently advertise two major flicks at the same time all the time.
 
I am surprised Marvel is using Galactus as the lead villain right off the bat with the Silver Surfer storyline, given how much of that was already done in the last Tim Story FF movie. Normally Marvel shies away from that and uses a villain that hadn't been used before when they adapt a legacy character that a previous studio had control of. That is why we got Vulture as the main villain of Spider-Man Homecoming when the MCU did their solo Spider-Man movie, instead of immediately going to the Green Goblin or Doc Ock well.
 
I am surprised Marvel is using Galactus as the lead villain right off the bat with the Silver Surfer storyline, given how much of that was already done in the last Tim Story FF movie. Normally Marvel shies away from that and uses a villain that hadn't been used before when they adapt a legacy character that a previous studio had control of. That is why we got Vulture as the main villain of Spider-Man Homecoming when the MCU did their solo Spider-Man movie, instead of immediately going to the Green Goblin or Doc Ock well.
I think it's down to the idea that Doom and Galactus weren't done "right".
 
The old way of marketing these movies was fine, when they were hot. When they were hot, Thunderbolts low end box office prediction at this point would be 85m. That's not how it is now.

They've had some real struggles at he box office recently. I get that it's two superhero movies, but other studios competently advertise two major flicks at the same time all the time.
But Fantastic Four is starting already from a position of strength say Thunderbolts hasn't. The news cycle has covered this movie more than any other upcoming MCU films other than Spider-Man 4 and the 2 Avengers movies. The other struggles don't really matter because the FF has shown a staying power already in the hype machine some of these others haven't. It's gonna be fine
 
That was a different time, a different place. Before the majority of this country were in fact Nazis.

Yeah but for him to come out as one now, I would argue that he’s always been one. Hell, you can see it with all the toxic masculinity and ‘Murica propaganda in his earlier films.

Also, he likely raped someone back then, which is a pre-requisite for joining MAGA.
 

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