The next big X-men event.

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Well from what I heard is that Marvel and Joe Q got a new big X-men event. And I heard that there going to make it darker then House of M and Decimation. Sounds like there going to depower more mutant and kill even more off. :csad: So the numbers may lower down to there 99 or 60. Only 99 or 60 so mutant left in the world. i hope this is not true.
 
Perhaps this event, will make the main X-men[ the uncanny and astonishing team] the last of the mutants or something like that, could be interesting. bring the already dwindling mutant population down to 40.
 
If the X-Men are the last of the mutants, doesn't that kind of defeat their whole purpose? They'd no longer have a mutant populace to fight for or any evil mutants to fight against. They'd become just another Avengers team, basically.
 
I say depower them all!!! Make them get real jobs and wish for the good old days when they would get killed three times a week and resurrected in time for lunch... It'd stop all the big "events" from happening with them...
 
Well from what I heard is that Marvel and Joe Q got a new big X-men event. And I heard that there going to make it darker then House of M and Decimation. Sounds like there going to depower more mutant and kill even more off. :csad: So the numbers may lower down to there 99 or 60. Only 99 or 60 so mutant left in the world. i hope this is not true.
Where did you here all this from?
 
Well, if theres only like 60 more mutants, they could just throw them all on various X teams, and not have a purpose anymore so...
 
ya i guess your right souless... maybe they could do something with the uncanny x-men...:(
 
Whats so bad about having millions of mutants?
 
I'm assuming this is reffering to X-men: endangered species?
 
Whats so bad about having millions of mutants?
The way it was heading earth would soon be mostly populated by mutants! Or at least new york. Marvel universe earth is based on ours: either that had to stop or they had to bring down the number of mutants to a more 'realistic' level. get me?
 
Well from what I heard is that Marvel and Joe Q got a new big X-men event. And I heard that there going to make it darker then House of M and Decimation. Sounds like there going to depower more mutant and kill even more off. :csad: So the numbers may lower down to there 99 or 60. Only 99 or 60 so mutant left in the world. i hope this is not true.

Is this your first post that isn't insulting or criticizing DC?
 
they need to do something because we have like 5 xmen teams and wolverine is in about 10000 books and magneto may or may not be dead again, and xavier is trapped in the mkrann. they need to break it all down...give us new blue and gold teams maybe even a reserve team that do alot of underground missions. keep wolverine in 1 x-book, and in wolverine's ongoing. and for the love of god bring back jean and keep her alive! i hate emma frost. i think everythings too scattered and unorganized.
 
they need to do something because we have like 5 xmen teams and wolverine is in about 10000 books and magneto may or may not be dead again, and xavier is trapped in the mkrann. they need to break it all down...give us new blue and gold teams maybe even a reserve team that do alot of underground missions. keep wolverine in 1 x-book, and in wolverine's ongoing. and for the love of god bring back jean and keep her alive! i hate emma frost. i think everythings too scattered and unorganized.
 
they need to do something because we have like 5 xmen teams and wolverine is in about 10000 books and magneto may or may not be dead again, and xavier is trapped in the mkrann. they need to break it all down...give us new blue and gold teams maybe even a reserve team that do alot of underground missions. keep wolverine in 1 x-book, and in wolverine's ongoing. and for the love of god bring back jean and keep her alive! i hate emma frost. i think everythings too scattered and unorganized.
 
The way it was heading earth would soon be mostly populated by mutants! Or at least new york. Marvel universe earth is based on ours: either that had to stop or they had to bring down the number of mutants to a more 'realistic' level. get me?
198 is not a more "realistic" number.

It seems like joe Q just wants t kill the hole idea of X-men off and leaves to people that hunt and kill anyone how has any kind of powers. I think that Joe Q's message is that hating anyone that is different from you is a good thing and I can't agree with something like that.:csad:
 
If the X-Men are the last of the mutants, doesn't that kind of defeat their whole purpose? They'd no longer have a mutant populace to fight for or any evil mutants to fight against. They'd become just another Avengers team, basically.

Isn't it ironic? When the X-Men hit it big in the 90's, practically every single Marvel book that wasn't X or Spider related did anything and everything to try to mooch off the wealth, and amung them was the Avengers, with the whole jacket thing, "The Crossing" convelution and "attitude".

Fast forward about 10 or so years, and now that the X-Men have been milked so dry from their former glory that Marvel can't just spit out solo's starring B-Listers and expect them to sell well for a year (or 6 months), they may be forced into the mold of the new hot franchise, the Avengers. Now that the Avengers have hit it big, they have 2 core titles (3 if you include Avengers: Initiative), along with several "members" of various teams who have solo's that crossover, and have been the workhorse of Marvel for the past 3 years.

Calliber said:
Whats so bad about having millions of mutants?

Indeed, what IS so wrong about that? Last night's episode of HEROES noted that if millions of New Yorkers died, some 4-8 million people or more, it would be approximately .07% of Earth's population. So you could easily have millions of mutants and be able to play off how rare they are.

Perhaps the first problem is that 99.9999% of Marvel's stories deal with New York city; the first wave of post CW books have lowered that figure to about 95.9999%. Therefore, it can give the illusion of there being many mutants cluttering into New York City. The second is that "events" are a gimmick and after spending years fearing that mutants would overrun the planet, it seems to be an easy fix for instant drama to reverse that and make them endangered and rare, almost as rare as the Inhumans or the Eternals. Ideally, the X-Men are there to tell allegories about prejudice, but in practice they spend most of their time in character-specific soap opera or generic superhero hoey (time travel? Aliens? Alternate realities?) that make this lose track. The only writer who attempted to try to steer the ship back to what the premise was always preached to be in theory was Morrison, but his run alienated newcomers against hardcores, and despite big sales, Marvel's done everything possible to undo that storyline, drilling in the lesson to never be innovative with the X-Men again.

The ugly truth about franchises, especially ones that are almost half a century old, is they cannot change very much. Change them enough and they become something new, something that may not sell as well and may take some readjusting, as as well new techniques to write. Like anything in life, writers, editors, and the audience deathly fear change. Especially for a franchise that kept Marvel afloat during the 90's and even today is still big.

The problem with DECIMATION was that all of the core writers on the core titles avoided it, and the only titles that dealt with it were the B-List books (X-FACTOR, NEW X-MEN) and mini's. The core X-Books did what they always did; character specific soap, generic superhero action, and bent over backwards to avoid the "event" that the editors forced on them. Plus, no major character was effected by M-Day, and those rare ones that were have been "repowered" at the whims of whatever writer wanted it. Iceman was repowered immediately, followed by Polaris and even Magneto. An event that effects no one has no oomph. Love or hate CIVIL WAR, it had the cajones to effect practically every major character. DECIMATION was practically ignored by every major character, and thus a waste.

Bring on the .07% of mutants, I say. But that won't happen. It's much easier to rely on the same successful X-cycles of soap, aliens, and schlock than daring to logically and realistically dwell on the "deep issues" that this beloved franchise professes to be about, but hasn't been, for quite a while (beyond an occasional one-shot tale or two).
 
Well from what I heard is that Marvel and Joe Q got a new big X-men event. And I heard that there going to make it darker then House of M and Decimation. Sounds like there going to depower more mutant and kill even more off. :csad: So the numbers may lower down to there 99 or 60. Only 99 or 60 so mutant left in the world. i hope this is not true.

The point of Endangered Species is not to drop down the number of mutants. The point of the story is to deal with the inevitable extinction of mutants and that the death of even ONE mutant is a big deal.
 
I'll tell you what they're gonna do.

Sixty mutants left... and they're all Wolverine.

You ****in' know they'd do it, too.

deally, the X-Men are there to tell allegories about prejudice, but in practice they spend most of their time in character-specific soap opera or generic superhero hoey (time travel? Aliens? Alternate realities?) that make this lose track.

In fairness, the racial allegory always sort of broke down for me at the level of the ostensibly oppressed group actually posing a legitimate threat to life on Earth.
 
Perhaps this event, will make the main X-men[ the uncanny and astonishing team] the last of the mutants or something like that, could be interesting. bring the already dwindling mutant population down to 40.

I hear they're bringing in a new mutant to kill everyone off: Ben Ratner or something like that...maybe Brad. Yeah, Brad Raytner :woot:
 
I think the reason there's only 198 mutants left is cuz Marvel itself couldnt even keep up with all of em. You guys gotta admit, after the x-men struck gold in the 90's, there were sooo many x-books, and new mutants popping up all over the place, i couldnt honestly keep up with all of it. Lately, marvel's been trying to rebuild and reconstruct itself and i think making mutants an endangered species is Marvel's way of starting over with a clean slate.
 
Yeah, there were a lot of mutants, but Marvel ironically mowed down their numbers just when new ideas of how to make those numbers work started coming in. Things like Mutant Town--an entire slum in New York that humans have abandoned and left to the mutants--were interesting concepts that probably still had a few years' worth of stories to tell.
 
Yeah, there were a lot of mutants, but Marvel ironically mowed down their numbers just when new ideas of how to make those numbers work started coming in. Things like Mutant Town--an entire slum in New York that humans have abandoned and left to the mutants--were interesting concepts that probably still had a few years' worth of stories to tell.

You're right. I didn't follow the books, but I did pick up the trades for both NYX and District X, and they both good reads. Seems like that would have been a decent direction to go in.
 

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