The Obama Thread (Merged x6)

[Ben Urich]

Warren G. Harding was pretty black.

Bill Clinton.

 

[Matt]

Dude I study politics, and concetrate in racial politics. dude . It's only like the 100th time I've said this.

This year, according to recent polls we will have the largest influx of black representitives we have ever had, and largest increase in black state reps as well. Massachusetts is about to elect a black governor (46/33). Tenessee and black senator (48/46). Steele is actually 46/46 with his opponent. A total of 138 are running this year alone. currently about 50% of them are more than carrying those elections. 15% are tightly contested.

In fact black people in the South have successfully combined the well known stereotype of black christian moral values and the progressive nature of most Democrats/Liberals. To make candidates who both appeal to the value voters and local dems.

I've studied politics too. I have a concentration in American and a minor in Poli sci, so lets not turn this into a pissing contest.

I'm not saying things aren't changed. But its not there yet. Also, you cannot compare one area to an entire country. Second, you cannot compare senate or governor to the President.

We've simply going to have to agree to disagree. You think I am wrong, I think you are naive. We'll have to leave it there.

 

[comicgirl]

Warren G. Harding was pretty black.

Clinton, baby...

 

[JLBats]

Harding, *****es!

 

[Ben Urich]

They should make a TV movie with Sam Jackson as Barack Obama.

"I've had it with these mother****ing bullies on ths mother****ing playground!"

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Sigh, being racist doesn't mean you just join the KKK and say slurs.

Polls won't show anything either. These are things that people don't talk about, don't even think about. But time and time again, history has proven, it is there.

Umm no, time and again polls and surveys have proven pretty accurate in determining racism. In fact if you were to survey the KKK (as I just had to) you'd find that they are less racist across the board on all questions. "Would you live next to, date, allow a negro in your home, hire, elect, etc." all showed positive increases, especially "live next to" which showed a dramatic increase of about 25%. Applying that to a general public, who actually used to show incredibly low numbers, show that race is not the issue it once was. Also considering how nearly at the "black races" this year are hotly contested shows that the determination is starting to dwindle.

Even in Maryland, which is currently 46/46, Steele actually is losing black voters for running as a Republican, yet still holding a tight race.

 

[comicgirl]

Umm no, time and again polls and surveys have proven pretty accurate in determining racism. In fact if you were to survey the KKK (as I just had to) you'd find that they are less racist across the board on all questions. "Would you live next to, date, allow a negro in your home, hire, elect, etc." all showed positive increases, especially "live next to" which showed a dramatic increase of about 25%. Applying that to a general public, who actually used to show incredibly low numbers, show that race is not the issue it once was. Also considering how nearly at the "black races" this year are hotly contested shows that the determination is starting to dwindle.

Even in Maryland, which is currently 46/46, Steele actually is losing black voters for running as a Republican, yet still holding a tight race.

Steele has been trying to play both side against the middle.

I live in PA; a lot of MD voters think he's a Democrat. His tv spots and road signs are........ambiguious

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Steele has been trying to play both side against the middle.

I live in PA; a lot of MD voters think he's a Democrat. His tv spots and road signs are........ambiguious

Watch Harold Ford ads, you'd think he were the Republican and Steele was the Democrat.

 

[comicgirl]

Watch Harold Ford ads, you'd think he were the Republican and Steele was the Democrat.

I know, WTF!?!?! That's our "cousin" Maryland.

P.S. - I'll be so glad when we had Santorum his walking papers! yes!

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I know, WTF!?!?! That's our "cousin" Maryland.

P.S. - I'll be so glad when we had Santorum his walking papers! yes!

Yeah he is gone.

 

[jaguarr]

The fact that he is a Washington outsider may be very attractive to a lot of voters. He's also incredibly charismatic, a uniter, and very much seems to be in touch with the more common man and wants to really do what's right for the entire country as a whole, not just his rich "friends" so to speak. I've really had enough of elitism in our leadership and Obama is so far outside of that whole thing that it makes having him as a President very enticing. I would vote for him in the generals.

jag

 

[comicgirl]

Yeah he is gone.

nah,nah,nah-nah......hey-hey-hey.........stay the hell in Virginia!t: ..oh, yes...that will be a good day.

Barak for Pres ' 08, baby!! Take that, Trent Lott!!

 

[BT18]

First of all, the republicans already have all the racists votes all locked up (and no I'm not including anti-white racism which I know is the only kind the Hannitys and Savages of the world and their followers see).

But this is just endemic of the bull$hit that is celebrity driving politics, and just people not giving a damn enough to look into anything beyond what the corporate media feeds them.

Obama would make a fine candidate in 2012, but lets hope Democrats have an incumbant running then.

I can't even count the number of times I saw John Edwards accused of only having "4 years of national experience for president" and people buying into it, despite the fact that he was elected in 1998, giving him 6. What are they going to do with Obama, say he'll only have 2 years experience ? Hey, why not?

There are 3 people who would be great candidates. Apparently it's up to people outside of the corporate media to shove them down the throats of the unengaged out there, all of whom have a perfectly good chance of winning the primary and a GREAT chance of winning the general election the minute they announce their candidacy.

General Wesley Clark

Senator Russ Feingold

Senator Barbara Boxer

and by the way, I was a supporter of Obama before probably anyone else on SHH had heard of him, back when his main claim to fame was an inordinate amount of people signed up to his meetup.com profile, just starting out running in the Illionois primary in summer 2003.

 

[NOFX]

I cant wait until White people are no longer the majority! We wont have issues like "oh he's black, he cant win!"

 

[Immortalfire]

His name sounds like a terrorist.

 

[JLBats]

His name sounds like a terrorist.

Point to Matt.

 

[comicgirl]

His name sounds like a terrorist.

Hey, fire! What's up, man! Come on, that sounds like something Dubya would say. What! Did you say Osama?!

 

[ShadowBoxing]

His name sounds like a terrorist. .

Change on letter to "S" and his full name would be Barak Hussein Osama.

 

[comicgirl]

First of all, the republicans already have all the racists votes all locked up (and no I'm not including anti-white racism which I know is the only kind the Hannitys and Savages of the world and their followers see).

But this is just endemic of the bull$hit that is celebrity driving politics, and just people not giving a damn enough to look into anything beyond what the corporate media feeds them.

Obama would make a fine candidate in 2012, but lets hope Democrats have an incumbant running then.

I can't even count the number of times I saw John Edwards accused of only having "4 years of national experience for president" and people buying into it, despite the fact that he was elected in 1998, giving him 6. What are they going to do with Obama, say he'll only have 2 years experience ? Hey, why not?

There are 3 people who would be great candidates. Apparently it's up to people outside of the corporate media to shove them down the throats of the unengaged out there, all of whom have a perfectly good chance of winning the primary and a GREAT chance of winning the general election the minute they announce their candidacy.

General Wesley Clark

Senator Russ Feingold

Senator Barbara Boxer

and by the way, I was a supporter of Obama before probably anyone else on SHH had heard of him, back when his main claim to fame was an inordinate amount of people signed up to his meetup.com profile, just starting out running in the Illionois primary in summer 2003.

General Wesley Clark would be great.

 

[Immortalfire]

Change on letter to "S" and his full name would be Barak Hussein Osama.

This is all too weird. Beware of this guy

 

[eat aliens]

I don't think Obama is bad for a democrat, I did like his speach at the DNC. But he hasn't even served a full term in the senate and as far as I know hasn't done much. He'd be better off building a larger reputation for himself adn run in 2012.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I don't think Obama is bad for a democrat, I did like his speach at the DNC. But he hasn't even served a full term in the senate and as far as I know hasn't done much. He'd be better off building a larger reputation for himself adn run in 2012.

Probably so. Some think he ough to try to get on board with the next Democratic candidate as VP, that might be a wiser choice. But he does have that JFK appeal.

 

[raybia]

Man, I really hope that if Obama runs he doesn't hire Matt as his campaign consultant.

If Ford wins in Tenn. look for Obama to run for Prez. A President who happens to be black is destined to happen eventually. He may or may not win but I wouldn't let the fact that I'm black stop me. Any black person with that type of mentally might as well either kill himself or move to Africa.

 

[raybia]

Probably so. Some think he ough to try to get on board with the next Democratic candidate as VP, that might be a wiser choice. But he does have that JFK appeal.

If he doesn't get become the Democratic nominee but he performs well, look for him to be the VP running mate anyway.

 

[JLBats]

Harding, *****es!

You people sicken me for not acknowledging this