The Official 007:Casino Royale thread

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  1. regwec Make Mine Marble

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    This is all very strange. Martin Campbell has repeatedly stated that his Casino Royale will tell the story of the very beginning of James Bond's '00' career. And yet we have Judi Dench returning to play the 'M' who is categorically said to have replaced the male 'M' we knew before Goldeneye. Either the production is in total disarray, or someone here isn't telling the truth.
     
  2. Movies205 Corporate Money

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    I'm hoping they've gone and scrapped the idea of doing a restart, a character study of bond will ruin the character, the great thing about Bond is you don't need character development it's all about the story, the mystery, the thrill of it all.
     
  3. Two-Face Harvey Dent

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    This picture is much better other one you posted. I'm blind as bat then.
     
  4. Octoberist point blank

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    They don't need to make it into a prequel.

    Like what someone here said, James Bond is like Bart and Lisa Simpson. They never age, yet they progress through real time and events like the rest of us. I've always had the notion it's just "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy of Bond's imortality.

    But a prequel could ruin that factor, esp it's giving a very specific time in his life. Because of that, what about SPECTRE and the Soviet Union?
     
  5. regwec Make Mine Marble

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    I understand that, but I am responding to Campbell's suggestion that the film would be a prequal.
     
  6. SaxtonTemple Registered

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    With Judy Dench as M they're just going with the ol' suspension of disbelief story.
    But why do we need Judy Dench at all? Why a female M when we don#t have a Q at all?
     
  7. Timstuff Registered

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    OK, this is really jumbled. Either they're going to take the story of Casino Royale, which is supposed to be Bond's first story, and move it into the future with a pre-establish Bond so they can keep Judi Dench and John Cleese (which would be ******ed, so why even call it Casino Royale?), or they're going to make it be a prequel, but for some reason we still have the same M as the recent movies and (hopefully) John Cleese as Q. This sounds like a complete jumble, even by James Bond standards. I know that the movies with different actors aren't really supposed to hold continuity with eachother (heck, they downright can't), but you'd think they could at least try to suspend our dis-belief a little.

    I have a feeling that Bond is going to take a nap for a few years after this movie, much like he did between the Dalton films and the Brosnan ones. The whole production just sounds so ham-fisted that I don't see how it can do anything but damage the franchise even more.
     
  8. spider-jide Registered

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    But isn't Q in the casino royale novel? I'm sure I read something breif about him when reading it.
     
  9. MaskedManJRK Registered

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    Maybe Dench is playing a lower level than M? From what I've saw of Goldeneye, she was in there before she was bumped up to the position.
     
  10. Everyman Registered

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    I am getting really worried too. Bond has never been really strong on continuity, but they tried to keep some consistency (Bond is a widower, for example) and the prequel or reboot idea (I am not sure which route them want to take) sort of jeopardizes this... The fictitious country backing up a terrorist group is another big mistake.
     
  11. Movies205 Corporate Money

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    Bah it'll work out fine except rustle the feathers of us fans. People aren't going to give a **** if they decide to go the prequel route and Dench is there as long as it's good. But they might care that Brosnan isn't there see the difference between Begins and this situation is that the Bond Franchise hasn't failed except the fans hate it but each movie has made a **** load of money while Batman and Robin was universally panned BY EVERYONE. So that's what it has working against it which is the shadow of Brosnon and it doesn't help that he's running his mouth about it in magazines.

    Also you seem to imply that the nap inbetween Licence to Kill(1989) and Goldeneye(1995) was intentional, whether this allusion was intentional or not I don't know but this was not the case. A law suit between the producers and Kevin McClory(i believe, correct me if I'm wrong) put a block on any James Bond movies being made till finally it was cleared up and they started work on Goldeneye. Timothy Dalton decided not to reprise his role as James Bond since he felt too much time had passed hence why Goldeneye has a Timothy Dalton feel to it.
     
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    The actual reason there was such a large gap between LTK ('89) and GE ('95) was because there were problems between Cubby and MGM/UA.

    The whole issue started when MGM/UA low-balled the marketing of LTK. They scrapped Bob Peak's original artwork (which was much more in the vein of the other Bond posters) for some garbage, every other day poster. You'll know what I mean if you google the original LTK posters. Then they demanded the title be changed from "Licence Revoked" to "Licence To Kill" becuase they believed the American audience didn't understand the word "Revoked."

    Needless to say, the movie tanked thanks to bad marketing, bad writing and an unimpressed audience. But Dalton was still slated to return as Bond in "The Property Of A Lady." It would go into production and hit theatres around 1991 or 1992. Although at the time, both Bond and MGM were a sinking ship.

    To cut it short and sweet, there was a proposed merger between MGM and Pathe Communications. Paretti, the guy who ran Pathe was a corrupt businessman and tried to sell the television rights to Bond to help with his finances. Cubby was PISSED and felt the Bond franchise had been low-balled. After alot of legal issues and battles which lasted 3 or 4 years, MGM/UA was once again MGM/UA and gained back the Bond franchise.

    Even then though, the next Bond film went through many script changes and rewrties, especially after True Lies came out with Schwarzenegger, which had similar action sequences.

    Regardless though, it was thought of at the time that even though Cubby had left it up to Dalton to return or not, the big boys at MGM were admamant a new Bond be chosen. So Dalton bowed out gracefully, enter Pierce Brosnan and the rest is history.
     
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    The actual reason there was such a large gap between LTK ('89) and GE ('95) was because there were problems between Cubby and MGM/UA.

    The whole issue started when MGM/UA low-balled the marketing of LTK. They scrapped Bob Peak's original artwork (which was much more in the vein of the other Bond posters) for some garbage, every other day poster. You'll know what I mean if you google the original LTK posters. Then they demanded the title be changed from "Licence Revoked" to "Licence To Kill" becuase they believed the American audience didn't understand the word "Revoked."

    Needless to say, the movie tanked thanks to bad marketing, bad writing and an unimpressed audience. But Dalton was still slated to return as Bond in "The Property Of A Lady." It would go into production and hit theatres around 1991 or 1992. Although at the time, both Bond and MGM were a sinking ship.

    To cut it short and sweet, there was a proposed merger between MGM and Pathe Communications. Paretti, the guy who ran Pathe was a corrupt businessman and tried to sell the television rights to Bond to help with his finances. Cubby was PISSED and felt the Bond franchise had been low-balled. After alot of legal issues and battles which lasted 3 or 4 years, MGM/UA was once again MGM/UA and gained back the Bond franchise.

    Even then though, the next Bond film went through many script changes and rewrties, especially after True Lies came out with Schwarzenegger, which had similar action sequences.

    Regardless though, it was thought of at the time that even though Cubby had left it up to Dalton to return or not, the big boys at MGM were admamant a new Bond be chosen. So Dalton bowed out gracefully, enter Pierce Brosnan and the rest is history.
     
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    yep!!! He refuses to dye his hair black for the role!!!! What an arrogant bastard!!!!
     
  15. regwec Make Mine Marble

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    No he hasn't. In the most recent interview, he replied "wait and see" when asked that question. It is sometimes fun to mix fact with opinion.
     
  16. spider-jide Registered

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    Well, If Craig looks the way he did in that promo shot of him as 007 holding a gun, I'm cool with that appearance.
     
  17. Octoberist point blank

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    There's a rumor on filmforce.ign.com that the producers want to change the main villian into a middle eastern "Bin Laden" like villian.

    Why even call it Casino Royale. I mean, sure you can't have the Cold War/Soviet references there (I mean, you can if it's done right..like a neo Soviet group), but this is silly.

    Hopfully, it REMAINS a rumor.
     
  18. MaskedManJRK Registered

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    Pic?
     
  19. Carmine Falcone So it goes.

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    Not bad, but there could have been a better choice.
     
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    http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/673/673044p1.html

    From NightFire to Casino Royale?
    The latest Bond girl buzz!
    by Stax


    December 1, 2005 - According to the German site T-Online, Aussie actress Kimberley Davies is in the running to be the next Bond girl in Casino Royale. The 32-year-old blonde bombshell was a regular on the Oz soap opera Neighbours.



    She has also appeared in Jon Favreau's film Made and the TV retelling of South Pacific. Or perhaps you know her from Operation Wolverine: Seconds to Spare, opposite Antonio Sabato?




    Kimberley Davies

    Davies is already familiar to 007 fans for her role as Bond girl Alura McCall in the videogame NightFire. She recently left the U.K. TV series I'm A Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! after injuring herself, according to Channel 4.

    Thanks to MI6 for the heads-up!
     
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  24. regwec Make Mine Marble

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    She purty. And I'm not even really in to blondes.
     
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    She is hot, she is unknown, she would be a fine Bond Girl, but maybe not Vesper Lynd.
     

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