The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 2

[Poetic Chaos]

2 fights left. Hopefully 1 is the one we want, if not both.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I want to see him fight Manny and Cotto. I doubt the former, but I can see the latter. He could go out the legit MW Champion.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Called it knew it would be a near shut out.

Terrible card
Terrible main event
Terrible ref

Floyd fight very well, slick, fast, accurate. Maidana did not deserve a rematch in the first place

This sums it up and I gave Maidana maybe 2 rounds in this fight. I think Amir Khan is next.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Ended up seeing it at a bar. Didn't see all of the undercards, but from what I read they were terrible. I knew Bayless would play a hand in this. Not going to say he nor the gloves had anything to do with the outcome. But I knew this was going to be a boring, over priced, safety first sparring session.

Question now is who's next?

Nobody outside you know who will outdo Canelo vs Cotto on May 5th weekend. Mayweather may very well conceed that date.

 

[Docker2.0]

Terrible card
Terrible main event
Terrible ref

Floyd fight very well, slick, fast, accurate. Maidana did not deserve a rematch in the first place

Was it!!!!??? The people in my house got so bored by the under card they started talking other sports. I like Floyd but the main event wasn't that great either.

 

[Docker2.0]

That was even easier then I thought it was gonna be. Giving Marcos more then 1, maybe 2 rounds is ridiculous.

Did anyone notice the judging? One judge had Floyd winning by 2 points, I believe anyway. I was drinking but because it was unanimous no one cared. It wasn't that close at all.

 

[Warhammer]

Ended up seeing it at a bar. Didn't see all of the undercards, but from what I read they were terrible. I knew Bayless would play a hand in this. Not going to say he nor the gloves had anything to do with the outcome. But I knew this was going to be a boring, over priced, safety first sparring session.

Question now is who's next?

Nobody outside you know who will outdo Canelo vs Cotto on May 5th weekend. Mayweather may very well conceed that date.

I've seen you say this a few times now. Maybe I'm just ignorant to this but what does Bayless have to do with this?

 

[Docker2.0]

Did anyone notice Floyd got badly hurt after he got hit after the bell? I saw the replay and his eyes were in the top of his head. I also think he started the next round kind of sloppy because he was still out of it.

 

[Doc Samson]

Yeah he definitely got caught. I still don't understand why there's this misconception that he can't take a good shot. Cotto, Mosley, Corley, Burton, Judah & now Maidana have all caught him with strong shots that would've dropped most boxers.

But I will say, leading up to the fight and especially in the post-fight interviews, this is the first time Floyd seems to not want to do this anymore. Almost like it's becoming a chore.

That's a dangerous mentality. All of a sudden he's talking about not necessarily fighting in May, maybe not fighting again until September, his fire and will just seem to be diminishing. I saw the same things in other fighters before, and they wind up getting knocked out soon after. If his focus isn't there, maybe he should stay away for a year. No matter who the next opponent is, any fighter stepping in the ring without desire is setting themselves up for something bad to happen...

 

[the last son]

I mean he is pushing 40

 

[Doc Samson]

Indeed, but he was also pushing 40 last year. I'm just saying it's obvious when that starts to come to the surface that a fighter either needs to take additional time off or expect some difficulties down the road. I'm sure he sees the end on the horizon, but he'd be wise to make sure he's focused, or he's not gonna get there unblemished. I'll guarantee that...

 

[Docker2.0]

Agreed! It seemed like he didn't even want to be in there during this fight. It was worse mentally he looked in the ring in awhile. He looked good physically because he showed he still had his legs but he wasn't all there. That said, I can't see him stopping right now. I can honestly see him being broke in 5 years. Not saying he's not good with his money but his entourage, legal troubles, and lavish lifestyle without a lot of sponsors........it's a recipe of bankruptcy.

 

[Iron_Stark]

I want to see him fight Manny and Cotto. I doubt the former, but I can see the latter. He could go out the legit MW Champion.

So whenever Martinez, GGG etc. were brought up Mayweather was too small, now that Cotto is the MW champ all the Floydboys want him to move up to get the title from someone he already beat. Hate to break it to you but Cotto has gone on record to say he's going to finish his career with Arum. Unless Mayweather wants to go down as the biggest duck in history by fighting Cotto and not Pac with Arum involved, then the Cotto fight is off the table. Besides, according to everyone, Floyd can't make the middleweight limit, he's too small to barely make light middle, no way would anyone want to have him move up, healf comes furst, memba?


Speaking of, De La Hoya just said Canelo wants the Cinco de Mayo weekend. Most likely vs Cotto. Mayweather is going to have to move his date or just retire. No way will a fight against Khan or anyone not named Pac be able to compete with Canelo vs Cotto.

 

[Docker2.0]

I don't know why you post here. You add NOTHING to the topic and you seem obsessed with your hate of Mayweather. If you don't understand why it doesn't make sense for him to fight Martinez or GGG but for him to fight Cotto, then you never will. No matter the topic, you find a way to insult Mayweather or call someone a Floyd fan, no matter the topic or if someone says he's a great boxer. Just saying.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Not one thing that I said was hating on Mayweather. All I posted were facts, or really close to being fact.

I must not understand, please enlighten me how people can say GGG, Martinez, middle weight and junior middle weight are/were too big for him, but all of a sudden Cotto at middleweight isn't.

And enlighten me on how Mayweather vs anyone not named Pac will do better than Canelo vs Cotto.

Seems to me if I'm not sucking on Floyds balls I must be a hater and a Pactard.

 

[Docker2.0]

Iron Stark isn't going to like this news:


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...does-925-000-pay-per-view-buys-182401464.html

I'm actually shocked by this. I thought this thing would get around 650,000-700,000 views max. There was really no buzz for it and even when Floyd went to the ring it was eerily dry. But I'm happy for him.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Other sources have inicated that it made lower. Either way Mayweather hasn't had a million plus buys since Canelo, and that was the only million plus fight he's had in his Showtime deal. Showtime and GBP have been losing money with Mayweather and that's a fact. And if that figure is true about the amount of buys well that's 925,000+ people that felt cheated with that sorry ass undercard and boring main event.

Speaking of the card, remember how you kept saying Haymon may be trying to sabotage GBP well that card has been already confirmed that Mayweather Promotions did the majority of the event. So you could see it had Haymons fingerprints all over it. Mayweather Promotions is going to fail hard with cards like that. Guess that's why Ellerbie is about to get the boot.

I still don't see any fighter out there other than Pac that Mayweather can fight that will out do Canelo/Cotto

 

[Docker2.0]

Other sources have inicated that it made lower. Either way Mayweather hasn't had a million plus buys since Canelo, and that was the only million plus fight he's had in his Showtime deal. Showtime and GBP have been losing money with Mayweather and that's a fact. And if that figure is true about the amount of buys well that's 925,000+ people that felt cheated with that sorry ass undercard and boring main event.

Speaking of the card, remember how you kept saying Haymon may be trying to sabotage GBP well that card has been already confirmed that Mayweather Promotions did the majority of the event. So you could see it had Haymons fingerprints all over it. Mayweather Promotions is going to fail hard with cards like that. Guess that's why Ellerbie is about to get the boot.

I still don't see any fighter out there other than Pac that Mayweather can fight that will out do Canelo/Cotto

You and the Mayweather hate.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Adonis Stevenson vs Jean Pascal being lined up for April 4th 2015. Negotiation's are ongoing says Stevenson's promoter.

Should be a cracker and considering Hopkins vs Kovalev in November this time next year we could be having a 175lb undisputed championship fight.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Canelo just jumped ship to HBO, and I'm sure other GBP fighters will follow. Pretty much sets up Cotto match for May. Possible rematch in September, or with GGG or Chavez Jr. Canelo taking the Mexican holidays back.

Showtime is beyond screwed, especially with the way Haymon and Espinoza have been putting together horrendous match ups.

 

[Docker2.0]

Adonis Stevenson vs Jean Pascal being lined up for April 4th 2015. Negotiation's are ongoing says Stevenson's promoter.

Should be a cracker and considering Hopkins vs Kovalev in November this time next year we could be having a 175lb undisputed championship fight.

Why so much time between the fights? When was the last time Stevenson or Pascal fought? They should fight earlier than that.

Canelo just jumped ship to HBO, and I'm sure other GBP fighters will follow. Pretty much sets up Cotto match for May. Possible rematch in September, or with GGG or Chavez Jr. Canelo taking the Mexican holidays back.

Showtime is beyond screwed, especially with the way Haymon and Espinoza have been putting together horrendous match ups.

My gawd man. You come off so freaking bias on how you completely hate Mayweather or anyone associated with him that any time you make a good point, it's hard to take it seriously. It amazes me how you single out Al Haymon about making bad fights but don't say ANYTHING about Bob Arum when he does the same thing and quite possibly worse. How can you black ball your on fighter when he beats your cash cow? How can you single out Mayweather for fighting Maidana when Pacquiao is fighting freaking Chris Algeria on PVP?!? This is why you come off bias.

 

[Fallen Angel]

It's is a bit weird man. Pascal last fought in February I think against Lucien Bute and Stevenson fought Fonfara back in May. This could easily be done for a December fight.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Why so much time between the fights? When was the last time Stevenson or Pascal fought? They should fight earlier than that.

My gawd man. You come off so freaking bias on how you completely hate Mayweather or anyone associated with him that any time you make a good point, it's hard to take it seriously. It amazes me how you single out Al Haymon about making bad fights but don't say ANYTHING about Bob Arum when he does the same thing and quite possibly worse. How can you black ball your on fighter when he beats your cash cow? How can you single out Mayweather for fighting Maidana when Pacquiao is fighting freaking Chris Algeria on PVP?!? This is why you come off bias.

Whem have I ever praised the Algeri fight? I'm not going to pay for it just like I didn't pay for Floyd/Maidana 2.

Arum atleast now wants to deal with GBP. Haymon doesn't even want to put his own guys together to fight. How can you defend Garcia/Salka, LSC vs that Roman guy, Matthyse and Broner fighting those bums and not each other, plus all the solo Mayweather promoted fights where all his guys like Love got exposed as chumps.

And Espinoza had the gall to go on twitter saying he didn't want to make Canelo/Clottey, yet ok'd those mismatches, especially the Salka fight.

There's no bias, just truth. Tell me where I'm lying.

 

[Docker2.0]

The hypocrisy is when you focus on Haymon and Mayweather. Again, I think they both are bad for boxing but to constantly bash Mayweather and Haymon when Arum is doing the exact same thing, even more so than anyone is else crazy. When has Pacqiuo fought anyone outside of TR promotions recently? Same thing with Donaire. The list goes on and on with his fighters.

 

[Iron_Stark]

The hypocrisy is when you focus on Haymon and Mayweather. Again, I think they both are bad for boxing but to constantly bash Mayweather and Haymon when Arum is doing the exact same thing, even more so than anyone is else crazy. When has Pacqiuo fought anyone outside of TR promotions recently? Same thing with Donaire. The list goes on and on with his fighters.

Pac fighting Bradley and Algeri is tons better than Haymon opponents like Salka and that Pros vs Joes fight card, the Mayweather undercard BS, the Broner fight card BS, and all the other crap that Showtime and Haymon have been putting together.

While there have been crappy cards on HBO, the majority of crap that was put out this year has been coming from Showtime and Haymon's fighters. And you can't say it hasn't.

And for once I didn't bash Mayweather, atleast he has the power to pick his opponents that aren't bad.