The Official Choose A Director Thread

[jmc]

^ That's true, but it also needs depth, Bay lacks the ability to create any sense of it, only he could take on one of World War 2 biggest events and totally butcher it.

 

[El Payaso]

I doubt you could do better. It's not laziness. The majority of audiences just see movies as entertainment and nothing more. We don't go to the movies to think. We go to be entertained. Movie buffs/geeks are the only ones who actually give a crap. If you, or anyone else, don't like those 'brainless action movies', than don't see them. It's that ****in' simple.

We is too many people.

Majority of audiences thinking movies are just to spend a boring afternoon is okay; majorities have been wrong before.

If you, or anyone else, don't like 'movies with substance,' then don't see them. It's that *****n' simple.

 

[BATZARRO WWD]

I think he'd do allright. Not my first choice, but in terms of it being entertaining and over-the-top and, well, comicbooky, I think he'd pull it off.

 

[dark_b]

^ That's true, but it also needs depth, Bay lacks the ability to create any sense of it, only he could take on one of World War 2 biggest events and totally butcher it.

well SR IMO had to much depth.
so why not now make a movei with only good visuals

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

SR's depth was an illusion. It was just boring globbly goop to me, just like 2003's Hulk movie.

I think that the fans are due an exciting Superman movie that is intelligent too. IMHO, we didn't get that 2 years ago.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

We is too many people.

Majority of audiences thinking movies are just to spend a boring afternoon is okay; majorities have been wrong before.

If you, or anyone else, don't like 'movies with substance,' then don't see them. It's that *****n' simple.

Yeah, well, it goes both ways. That doesn't make anyone wrong.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Yeah, but it would be hollow with one dimensional characters. No way, no Bay, this guy is a blight on movies.

Now, if only, movies actually mattered.

 

[ultimatefan]

I don´t give a crap what you think of Superman Returns, if Michael Bay directed a Superman movie, that´d be the sign to bring in the apocalypse, for humankind earned it.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

^ Wow. Overreact much? Like I said before, this is never gonna happen, so don't even bother to get all worked up over it.

 

[Sawyer]

Watching the Transformers blu-ray HUD feature and it said that "At one point Michael Bay considered directing Superman Returns." This happened when the John Tuturro character stripped down to his singlet with a logo in front like the Superman insignia.

I know for many fans Bay better not even come close to a Superman film, but I for one would be very excited. At least he would make Superman look good, and at this point that's what I want, hopefully with a decent script.

He certainly fits the 'director' Millar has been referring to.

At least the film would have been enjoyable to watch.

But, yeah, he should never direct Superman.

 

[Mindreaper21]

At least he wouldn't have made Superman look gay. We also would have had an actual fight scene between Superman and a villain who could actually challenge him.

 

[Dark Jaguar]

At least he wouldn't have made Superman look gay. We also would have had an actual fight scene between Superman and a villain who could actually challenge him.

and that would be it. One really long, good fight scene...
they'd have to reshoot half the movie 6 months later just to give it some personality.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

Now, if only, movies actually mattered.

You ever think that maybe a movie that's all action and no plot isn't what some people actually consider entertainment? Some of us aren't so easily satisfied.

 

[romeogbs19]

I'm all for Bay -- but honestly, director doesn't worry me so much as the writers -- the script needs to be good or else we'll get X-Men 3 ... or, heaven forbid, SR2 ...

 

[Jake Cassidy]

You ever think that maybe a movie that's all action and no plot isn't what some people actually consider entertainment? Some of us aren't so easily satisfied.

I never even said that.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Super-nipples!!!

 

[theMan-Bat]

I personally voted for Tim Burton.

So did I.

 

[p4poetic]

I agree with everything you said. For me, the best interpretation of Superman was done with S:TAS/JL/JLU. The best interpretation of Clark himself was done by Dean Cain, and the best Luthor was Clancy Brown. His voice really captured what I imagined Luthor to be, as did Michael Ironside, and Darkseid. I also think the DCAU gave us the best interpretation of Kara as well. Teri Hatcher did a very competent version of Lois, where one could believe she was the journalist that she purported to be. Kate Bosworth really played a role that she was too young to play. Nothing against her talent, but she was too young.

Again, I think Luthor works best when he has the corporate element, but also has a great scientific mind as well. Both are critical to the character, IMO. Seeing Luthor as just a mad scientist, is really outdated. Seeing Superman with no physical adversary to cut loose against in a Superman film, is really outdated, IMO.

I think John Shea captured Lex Luthor so well. His voice, his deliver, the demeanor, the presence...I don't recall him being that tall, so for him to accomplish this performance is amazing.

Here's my take:

The best characters, and the actors who portrayed them:

Superman/Kal-El - Christopher Reeve

Metropolis Clark Kent - Dean Cain

Smallville Clark Kent - Tom Welling

Haven't seen enough of Routh to make a clear decision on his Superman prowess, but the sequel should be interesting, indeed.

/end

 

[Sam]

My favorite is not on that list: Zack Snyder.

 

[The Batman]

IMO, its a shame that people have to constantly bash donners work in order to hgihlight their love for the overrated TAS (not that it wasnt bad, mind you). The films, flaws and all, still represent the most definitive superman in media. Only George Reeves or the Fleischer cartoons come remotely close

 

[The Guard]

The Plane Rescue is great - but it had none of the emotion of the helicopter rescue. The only point it gives me a tingle down my spine is when he lifts the shuttle of the plane.

So...none of the emotion of the passengers inside...in one of the most intense plane crash sequences ever...compared to Lois hanging there and screaming?

K.

In the helicopter rescue I get a tingle when I see the shirt ripped open, when he comes out of the revolving door and then again when he catches Lois. I even get a little ripple at the "that's a bad outfit...woo" line.

The plane sequence didn't have this emotion attached.

You didn't feel ANYTHING when he's blasting toward a plummeting plane? None of the music moved you? Nothing?

 

[The Kid]

IMO, its a shame that people have to constantly bash donners work in order to hgihlight their love for the overrated TAS (not that it wasnt bad, mind you). The films, flaws and all, still represent the most definitive superman in media. Only George Reeves or the Fleischer cartoons come remotely close

No it's overrated, but better than anything on tv these days at least.

I agree the movies are the primary representation of supey, and to a lot of kids, Routh probably is THE superman to them. I can't imagine what they'll think when they see STM later in life. Or I should say he's the movie superman. Smallville's probably still their superman now that I think about it. Oh it's just so confusing...

And hey, thanks for making it seem like I started this whole thread. Makes me seem special or something.

I don't want to double post so I'll put it here:

Watching it recently, the plane rescue might have benefited from more I guess emotion... there's a cold-ness to fully cgi stuff ping ponging across the screen that I felt from it, it lacked that... human touch.. *lightning crackles* Not that it wasn't really cool. I got the same cold feel from the cgi in spidey too even though that's also cool.

 

[darthlaney]

So...none of the emotion of the passengers inside...in one of the most intense plane crash sequences ever...compared to Lois hanging there and screaming?

K.



You didn't feel ANYTHING when he's blasting toward a plummeting plane? None of the music moved you? Nothing?

There were a lot of people flying around - but I can't say I felt fear for them. Like I said good sequence, but the film makers didn't get that they needed not only a major event, but they also needed to (re-)introduce Superman in an iconic and emotional way.

and

C'mon you barely see him on the way to the plane and it was preceded by a really crap \S/ reveil - Also why did they make it that Superman caused most of the damage to the plane - why didn't he get under it and just stop it, instead of trying to grab a wing - that was dumb.

 

[Nixon]

Superman didn't cause most of the damage to the plane. He grabbed the wing to try and stop the plane from spinning. Without doing that, there was no way he could catch the plane. The reason he grabbed the wing and not an end of the fuselage was because had he done that there would be a very good chance that the plane would've broken in two. With the wing, even if it broke off (which it did) there's a very good chance that the fuselage and everybody inside it would stay intact (which it did).

 

[darthlaney]

Ok.... the shear force at the point of loading, which resulted in a bending moment proportional to velocity which was resulted from the momentum shift in rotational pattern, vesave, producing acceleration in both a downward and horizontal fashion........ok I'll take my hand off it...

C'mon Nixon he grabbed the plane at its weakest point, at a time when it was under maximum strain and snapped the friggin' thing off.

Why didn't he just fly directly up from underneath it grab it, keep flying upwards, rotating it in the reverse direction to the way it was turning.

The fuselage is far stronger than the wing and wouldn't have broken as easily. That's why it remained intact when he caught it in the bball stadium.