The Official Cosmic Marvel Thread

[KangConquers]

Discuss what ever you'd like to involving Cosmic Marvel, whether it's older Jim Starlin stories, newer Abnett and Lanning stories, or just cosmic pissing contests about which of your favorite Alpha Plus beings is better.


I wish I had a better thread starting post, but I currently have the flu, and plan on laying down for a bit.

 

[The Morningstar]

Cosmic Marvel was the best thing in comics whilst it was running. With the events like Annihilation, which is possibly the best comic book event ever, and ongoings like Nova and GotG, it was a good time.

Tis a shame most comic book readers are philistines and it all sold so poorly.

 

[KangConquers]

Cosmic Marvel was the best thing in comics whilst it was running. With the events like Annihilation, which is possibly the best comic book event ever, and ongoings like Nova and GotG, it was a good time.

Tis a shame most comic book readers are philistines and it all sold so poorly.

What do you think of Annihilators? While I like it, I think it's far from being as brilliant as GOTG due to all of the characters in Annihilators being bad asses with very few flaws.

The Guardians had such a great cast and concept; leave the fate of the universe in the hands of a bunch of nuts who (outside of messianic Adam Warlock) have no place being saviors of the universe.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Annihilators has been so disappointing it hurts. I think what DnA did that really resignated with people is that they took this giant cosmic landscape and these impossible threats and told them through the eyes of everyday people, like Nova and Starlord. Even their supporting cast were relatable.

With Annihilators they attempted this with Quasar but it just didn't work. It just wasn't relatable.

When you have that much power on a team the threat needs to be astronomical to challenge them. The Dire Wraiths and Magus just weren't big enough to make me care. They needed to face the Void or the Celestrials or something. Heck, even a fully powered Hiro-Kala from Son of Hulk would have been more interesting.

 

[THANOSRULES]

After a while I grew to see that Giffen's Annhilation I was the best of the new marvel stuff and DnA's stuff was never quite as good as Giff.

I saw retrograde quality with all the DnA cosmic stuff (especially Nova).

Nova had basically regressed to saying "Blue Blazes" (he didnt even have his cool Giffen Scar)

While I liked GotG..it was really quite Bendis esque...and the faux "interview style/debrief" paneling really got on my nerves.

Seemed like Marvel really wanted to pump a "heavy Mettle" feel to the cosmics under Giffen and when DnA took over things went down hill.

Get Giffen back! Get him Marvel cosmics!

 

[jerkhero]

I hope Marvel has some plans for new cosmic stuff. At least they included Nova and Rocket in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3. Guardians are also making an appearance in Avengers cartoon. Or maybe i'm reading too much into it.

There's also the rumors about GotG (and i guess other cosmic Marvel) movies, but i don't know it those are true.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I really wish they could've kept either Nova or GotG going. Either of them would've been a good window into the cosmic stuff. The Annihilators minis just aren't really as good because they lack that ragtag, cosmic frontier feel of the Guardians or the newly rebuilt Nova Corps.

 

[runawayboulder]

Isn't the Cosmic line kinda dead now? A little late for this type of thread....

 

[JewishHobbit]

There's supposedly plans so who knows. The cosmic side of things is supposed to play a part in Avegers vs. X-Men though how much I don't know.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think the Annihilators minis sold especially well. The editors are probably trying to figure out how to repackage cosmic stuff next. I have a feeling all of these double-shipping series and .1 issues are just placeholders to keep Marvel publishing roughly the same quantity of issues per month while they figure out what new series and characters they want to add to the overall line and how to push them most effectively.

At least, I hope so. I don't want to be buying 2 issues of Thunderbolts a month at the expense of new series forever.

 

[runawayboulder]

I hope the Cosmic role in the Avengers/X-Men war is them coming down and kicking the crap out of all of them.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Better yet, Nova coming down and just shaking his head at the whole lot of them. "The last time you guys were at each other's throats, the whole universe nearly got owned by bugs and the Skrulls infiltrated every aspect of your society. And you still haven't gotten the message?!" Then he flies off to space again and resolves to forget about Earth completely.

 

[KangConquers]

Isn't the Cosmic line kinda dead now? A little late for this type of thread....

Dead? When has the cosmic line ever really "died"? It fades away for a little bit and comes back.

Besides, with some sort of cosmic movie on the horizon (GOTG and Inhumans seem to be the two most talked about options), I find it hard to believe that they won't revive the line.

 

[KangConquers]

Annihilators has been so disappointing it hurts. I think what DnA did that really resignated with people is that they took this giant cosmic landscape and these impossible threats and told them through the eyes of everyday people, like Nova and Starlord. Even their supporting cast were relatable.

With Annihilators they attempted this with Quasar but it just didn't work. It just wasn't relatable.

When you have that much power on a team the threat needs to be astronomical to challenge them. The Dire Wraiths and Magus just weren't big enough to make me care. They needed to face the Void or the Celestrials or something. Heck, even a fully powered Hiro-Kala from Son of Hulk would have been more interesting.

The great thing about GoTG was the cast. Annihilators is a giant sausage fest, with a bunch of straight laced supertypes. I love every single character in the Annihilators, but they play off of each other horribly. You need a character like Crystal, or a situation like the Phalanx invasion to make Ronan come to life, otherwise, he's just a bad ass with a hammer.

GotG were like the outcasts who crashed the cool kid party. They were constantly interfering in the affairs of bad ass cosmic beings, powerful emperors and empresses, and in general, butting in where no one wanted them. They were sort of a joke butt to the rest of the cosmic universe, and that's what made them compelling.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Dead? When has the cosmic line ever really "died"? It fades away for a little bit and comes back.

Besides, with some sort of cosmic movie on the horizon (GOTG and Inhumans seem to be the two most talked about options), I find it hard to believe that they won't revive the line.

well its as dead as it is ever been seeing as how there are zero cosmic ongoings save for FF , which I guess kinda is.

As a big cosmic fan, i wouldnt really consider Inhumans a true cosmic group of characters.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Hickman is carrying on a lot of cosmic story threads. He's brought the Annihilation Wave back under Johnny Storm's control, he's got Black Bolt and the Kree Supreme Intelligence gearing up for a whole new war, Galactus is supposed to return to either FF or F4 soon, etc.

 

[KangConquers]

I haven't bought comics regularly for about a year, so the current "phase out" isn't effecting me that much. These things are cyclical.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea i've pretty much stopped buying comics altogether. They are all ****e at the moment. Especially Marvel.

 

[KangConquers]

Yea i've pretty much stopped buying comics altogether. They are all ****e at the moment. Especially Marvel.

If I enjoy something or hear great things, I buy trades. I got kind of tired of reading the same story for half a year.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Hickman is carrying on a lot of cosmic story threads. He's brought the Annihilation Wave back under Johnny Storm's control, he's got Black Bolt and the Kree Supreme Intelligence gearing up for a whole new war, Galactus is supposed to return to either FF or F4 soon, etc.

Yeah, I am digging what I read, problem with FF is in 2 months they will be fighting earth based threats and may largely ignore cosmic stuff for good stretches.

 

[JewishHobbit]

The cosmic angle of Fantastic Four has me curious but I don't want to read 50 comics to get the story. I'll pass.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I am digging what I read, problem with FF is in 2 months they will be fighting earth based threats and may largely ignore cosmic stuff for good stretches.

True. But I like enough of the F4 and the Future Foundation characters that that's not a big deal for me. The only times I get exasperated with it is when Hickman focuses on his pet conspiracies like this Inhumans thing.

 

[KangConquers]

Not an Inhumans fan, Corp?

 

[JewishHobbit]

I've never really found them that interesting. I liked Jenkins' 12 issue maxi-series. I also liked them in the whole War of Kings era. Beyond that I've never given a lick about them.

 

[THANOSRULES]

Kirby Inhumans...such a cornerstone of marvel. I'm forever a fan, but I really think they have always been more style than substance.

I mean, they are generally stuck up and into themselves and it's hard to root for them.