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The Official Dollhouse Thread

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Finally caught up. Honestly, i wish more shows were compressed like this. There are some events that could stand to be expanded on, but honestly, many of the events don't, as is true for all TV shows, and if this had been a five year run, we would've had the renegade echo YEAR instead of just the episode. I really admire the way Joss has compressed this.

I do grow weary of seeing the originally hardcore Adelle reduced to... a sniveling mess. The fact that she started out with a science bent is interesting, if odd.

But honestly, it paid off in spades with that shot of all the characters in the same room. Just pure pwnage. Boyd is still my favorite. But Alpha became my second favorite character in his episode. "You're out of paper." Glorious, if not brilliant. Also, his deduction of Ballard being in love because he DIDN'T sleep with Echo. I'm not used to seeing so much Tudyk villain (V Miniseries as well), but it's working out swimmingly.

Theories:
Boyd's "personal issues" assuredly involve Whiskey, and not something wack (and actually personal) like a long-lost daughter.
Mr. Ambrose is Clyde's partner, and Harding is Clyde 2.0. He's all about 'orders from the top, you understand.' Bennet could be Clyde 2.0 as well, as a dark horse, and as a tie to Caroline seeing them, but she'd be a non-traditional (unzappable) pseudo-doll if so.
As theorized, they took out Ballard's love for Echo. It makes glorious sense.
The original purpose of the Dollhouses is testing, and deflection of purpose. The ultimate goal of Rossum is likely something shortsighted, like money or Ambrose/Clyde's partner's personal fetish or something.
 
Haha, I love that I'm sitting here watching the show and I had the thought "aw, he killed her, that's so sweet" when Victor kills Sierra to get her out of the Attic. Fun. :hehe:
 
So caught up in stuff, forgot to post the reminder of tonights episode. No doubleheader.
 
HOLY SH_T
HOLY SH_T
HOLY SH_T
HOLY SH_T
HOLY SH_T
HOLY SH_T

That's the head of Rossum?!
 
Nooooooooooo! I thought he was just gonna die, not this!




But I love it.
 
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Well that ending was... distressing... in the best possible way.

Putting everything else to one side, poor [BLACKOUT]Topher and Bennet.[/BLACKOUT] :csad:
 
Happy couples?

Sic The Whedon on them!!

And [blackout]Boyd and Claire too[/blackout], come to think of it.
 
The ending was a surprise...didn't see that one coming.
 
Happy couples?

Sic The Whedon on them!!

And [blackout]Boyd and Claire too[/blackout], come to think of it.

Not really, if you really think about it (aside from the outcome we've already known since Epitaph One regarding the fate of Whiskey.

On that note, the reveal regarding Boyd as the head was slightly spoiled when Claire killed Bennet and everyone realized she was a sleeper. The cogwheels started turning with the thought, 'Wait, wasn't she staying with Boyd? Could he be a traitor?'. That said, I didn't think he'd be as high as the head. Think of the times he could've potentially died in the show. What kind of mastermind plans that way?!

That said, the ending was awesome. :D
 
That said, I didn't think he'd be as high as the head. Think of the times he could've potentially died in the show. What kind of mastermind plans that way?!

That said, the ending was awesome. :D


Actually, remember what Dewitt said after Mr. Ambrose was shot? The bigwigs download multiple times so he could have returned several times in a new body with the same personality to complete his masterplan.
 
This:

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made me go :wow:
Not me. Mostly because of this:
Happy couples?

Sic The Whedon on them!!
Whedon can't abide a happy couple.

Good ending, though. I figured [blackout]Clyde's partner[/blackout] was someone from the existing cast, but I never would've guessed [blackout]Boyd[/blackout]. Actually, putting those two together, I kind of figured [blackout]Dr. Saunders was Clyde's partner and was acting through Whiskey since his original body died[/blackout].
 
Because of the breaks and knowing that this show had been canceled I put it on the back-burner. So today I thought hey I have some time might as well check out an episode. A few hours later and wow this show went from okay to awesome pretty damn quickly. It really makes me wonder what a few more seasons would have gotten us.
 
A part of me thinks that it only got this good because it was cancelled...:O
 
A part of me thinks that it only got this good because it was cancelled...:O
That could be the case, especially because once it was canceled, I think Fox just stepped back from it and let them do whatever.
 
That, and the plot's getting rushed to finish the story. Therefore, all the major plot points that might've been stretched out over the course of another season or more are getting crammed into these few episodes. Hence, the manic pace.
 
... oh ****.


Oh ****.


Oh **** oh **** oh ****.








..... oh ****!



... I... I don't know what else to say. Holy mother titty ****ing christ ****.





Okay, I do know what else to say. Of the episode's two big oh **** moments, I only liked the second one. Which, I must say, is mind numbingly awesome. Boyd is the big bad. Boyd. The character who, up until this point, had essentially been this series' snarkier, more cynical, and more morally ambiguous (and slightly depressing) version of Giles, is the big bad. The main villain. The leader of a massive medical technology company with Bond villain like plans for world domination. That is awesome.



However, Bennet's death... I've never actually been all that upset with Whedon's negative outcomes for relationships before. Tara's death was obviously plot relevant, as it was the main fuel for the last arc of that season, and I thought it was handled well. Besides, Joss' plan was to bring her back, that just fell through. Buffy and Angel's relationship problems never bothered me, because I never liked them as a couple anyway. I mean, I really like the episodes where they are a couple, and the ones that focus on their relationship. But they were a high school romance. All passion, no substance. It doesn't bother me because, at the end of the day, they didn't have much of a relationship. They just stared into each others puppy dog eyes and occasionally took breaks to kill things.


... aw hell, I'll just get to the point. I didn't dislike most of Whedon's other unhappy ends to relationships because A) most of them actually served the plots and character arcs in really important ways, and B) (this being the most important), most of them happened a good long while after the characters were introduced. We got, like, what, 30-ish episodes of Tara-y goodness. 20-something for riley. Dozens with Anya. Angel got his own damn series. And wash was in every episode of Firefly (not that that's saying much). But Bennet... Bennet was in the show for all of three episodes. I would have been less upset if this happened a season later, I guess. Of course, Dollhouse isn't going to have a third season, but we're talking hypotheticals here.




Still. Boyd is the big bad.




Oh ****.
 
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