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IMDB says Victoria Cartagena is Montoya. That's all I know

 

Yeah, Renee montoya... Totally legit.

Also, I see someone put Sara Paxton as Bette Kane...

 

http://www.fox.com/gotham/

Everyone knows the name Commissioner Gordon. He is one of the crime world's greatest foes, a man whose reputation is synonymous with law and order. But what is known of Gordon's story and his rise from rookie detective to Police Commissioner? What did it take to navigate the multiple layers of corruption that secretly ruled Gotham City, the spawning ground of the world's most iconic villains? And what circumstances created them – the larger-than-life personas who would become Catwoman, The Penguin, The Riddler, Two-Face and The Joker?

GOTHAM is an origin story of the great DC Comics super villains and vigilantes, revealing an entirely new chapter that has never been told. From executive producer/writer Bruno Heller (“The Mentalist,” “Rome&#8221, GOTHAM follows one cop's rise through a dangerously corrupt city teetering on the edge of evil and chronicles the birth of one of the most popular super heroes of our time.

Growing up in Gotham City's surrounding suburbs, JAMES GORDON (Ben McKenzie, “Southland,” “The O.C.&#8221 romanticized the city as a glamorous and exciting metropolis where his late father once served as a successful district attorney. Now, two weeks into his new job as a Gotham City detective and engaged to his beloved fiancée, BARBARA KEAN (Erin Richards, “Open Grave,” “Breaking In&#8221, Gordon is living his dream – even as he hopes to restore the city back to the pure version he remembers it was as a kid.

Brave, honest and ready to prove himself, the newly-minted detective is partnered with the brash, but shrewd police legend HARVEY BULLOCK (Donal Logue, “Sons of Anarchy,” “Terriers,” “Vikings,” “Copper&#8221, as the two stumble upon the city's highest-profile case ever: the murder of local billionaires Thomas and Martha Wayne. At the scene of the crime, Gordon meets the sole survivor: the Waynes' hauntingly intense 12-year-old son, BRUCE (David Mazouz, “Touch&#8221, toward whom the young detective feels an inexplicable kinship. Moved by the boy's profound loss, Gordon vows to catch the killer.

As he navigates the often-underhanded politics of Gotham's criminal justice system, Gordon will confront imposing gang boss FISH MOONEY (Jada Pinkett Smith, “The Matrix” films, “HawthoRNe,” “Collateral&#8221, and many of the characters who will become some of fiction's most renowned, enduring villains, including a teenaged SELINA KYLE/the future CATWOMAN (acting newcomer Camren Bicondova) and OSWALD COBBLEPOT/THE PENGUIN (Robin Lord Taylor, “The Walking Dead,” “Another Earth&#8221.

Although the crime drama will follow Gordon's turbulent and singular rise through the Gotham City police department, led by Police Captain SARAH ESSEN (Zabryna Guevara, “Burn Notice&#8221, it also will focus on the unlikely friendship Gordon forms with the young heir to the Wayne fortune, who is being raised by his unflappable butler, ALFRED (Sean Pertwee, “Camelot,” “Elementary&#8221. It is a friendship that will last them all of their lives, playing a crucial role in helping the young boy eventually become the crusader he's destined to be.

 

I'm interested because I like cop shows and Batman but I think it'll either tank because Fox is terrible with keeping great shows alive (See Terminator: TSCC or Firefly) or they'll demand so many changes so often it'll be ruined before it ends the first season.

 

And God bless!

 

I'd love it if this tied in with the new Man of Steel world Batman.
What year is this show supposed to be set in, by the way?

 

This is gonna be awesome! And blimps there's blimps!

 

Sweet logo!

 

Blimps?

My excitement just reached critical mass.

 

This could be a masterpiece..

 

That city landscape feels like Batman TAS come to laugh. Holy crap.

 

BLIMPS!!!

Seriously though, Logue did say that the show was going for a cool anachronistic look to it, so we shouldn't be too surprised. And it's interesting that they've got Bullock as a "police legend." Chances are he's going to fall off that pedestal a bit.

 

Eh. Looks like we're getting a pre-Joker after all.

Can't say I'm too thrilled by that.

 

Very, very creative logo. Looks like the bat symbol

 

Man, if they make the sky red in the show...

 

Very nice. Can't wait.

 

It is amazing how much those blimps makes me excited.

 

I entered this thread to ask this, so... Bump, I guess?

 

It's separate to the DCFU.

And the time period is unknown.

 

Logue has implied it's got a very grey time frame like BTAS did.

Pretty certain that it will have enough certification as the past that of they felt they should connect it, they could. However, I doubt they will.

 

Me neither. I despise the concept of seeing a pre-Joker altogether. I prefer the TKJ route of having his past be a mystery. Establishing a concrete origin takes a bit away from the character IMO.

 

I'm in two minds on it.

The Joker was designed, and always has been, as an enigma.
No one in the comics nor out, know for certain who he is. Not even Joker himself clearly knows. He's running from his past all the time and he refuses to let it catch up with him, for whatever reason.

It's what gives him an edge over almost every other villain out there.

But what is more or less consistent is the fact he was at one point the Red Hood. But what is before that should remain a mystery.
Hell, even his character under the mask will probably be a give away enough.
Was he just a hapless pawn to other people's schemes or was he always a sadistic psycho?

Like I said in the thread, the status quo is being changed...and I'm for it, really.

 

I don't mind the status quo being changed. However, 1) I'm not a fan of this particular idea, especially if we know his name, life, and exactly how he became the Joker and 2) It's something I've seen done before in the past many times and I was never a fan of it.

To be fair, I can't say the idea is wrong or (fully) inaccurate. There still are a few writers even in today's comics that write the Joker with his origin known. I just much prefer the mystery route. It's far more interesting IMO.

 

I'd rather have a different kind of Joker than no Joker at all.