The Avengers The Official 'Hulk in Avengers' thread.

[Rock Sexton]

We've talked about Hulk in the Avengers, but what about a Defenders movie down the line? Marvel own Hulk and Dr Strange. I don't know about Namor, but the Defenders doesn't need Silver Surfer. As long as they own Nighthawk, Valkyrie and Hellcat, they're good to go. I believe Marvel owns Luke Cage as well.

We could even one day have an Avengers vs Defenders movie.

I mean no offense ... but with all these comic names being thrown around, I think some of you are getting waaaaaay too ahead of yourselves. They are only putting out two Marvel movies a year. They've now got the IM, Thor, Cap, and Avengers franchises being fleshed out .... with the possibility of Edgar Wright's "Ant-Man" as well .....

I just don't see something Avengers vs. Defenders viable ... at least nowhere in the short-term. And by the time the idea might be explored, you've got age issues with the actors playing the Avengers.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I don't see Defenders happening. I think Avengers will be the only team movie series until Marvel/Disney get X-Men & FF back.

Is there even a Defender team in the comics right now?

 

[allhollows86]

Edward Norton recently said that he would reprise the role of Bruce Banner, aka the incredible Hulk, if the fans wanted him to.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/05/14/edward-norton-the-avengers/

Show your support for Ed Norton as the Hulk by signing this petition! Hopefully, if we get enough signatures, the bigwigs at Marvel Studios will get the message!


http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/BringBackEdNorton

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't see Defenders happening. I think Avengers will be the only team movie series until Marvel/Disney get X-Men & FF back.

Is there even a Defender team in the comics right now?

Why wait to get those franchises back though? It could be years. If Marvel are already making Dr Strange and if they had the rights to Namor (i'm not sure if they do) then they've already got the big three of the Defenders (including the Hulk). They just need to put them together in one movie and throw in the other smaller three. It wouldn't be as difficult as the Avengers, especially since the Defenders were a non-team anyway without formal membership.

 

[Cyclonus]

Petition signed, everyone should sign that and email it to everyone they know. On another note, I don't know why so many people want the Hulk to be the villain or for the Hulk to fight the Avengers. It maybe because of the Ultimate Avengers or stories of him fighting hero's in the past. But there are stories of him helping other Marvel hero's alot. During the making of the Incredible Hulk, Marvel's big thing was they wanted the Hulk to be portrayed as a hero, they even advertised the movie that way before it was released. Now people want him to be a villain again? Hulk needs to be a member of the Avengers, a hero. He would just be that reluctant hero.

Hulk wants to be left alone, but from old stories and animated shows he also wanted a friend or friends which the Avengers would be. Now I could see him and Thor maybe getting into alittle to prove who is stronger, kind of like the Human Torch and the Thing did in the F4 movies, which could add a little humor to the movie. But Hulk should not be a villain in the Avengers. He needs to portrayed in a positive image, Banner even showed he was gaining control over the transformations at the end of the movie. The Hulk doesn't need to be portryed as a big rampaging emotionless, dumb monster, with a good script and his character written the right way they could some how fit him in the Avengers as a helping member instead of just fighting him

 

[donko]

I agree but unfortunately the Hulk will be a problem in the beginning of the film. That is if they follow the comic history. As for Banner being in control at the end of the movie? For all we know that could have been Loki smiling through Banner as he gained control of the Hulk. That ending could easily go a different way. It is obvious that the Hulk will be in the movie but Banner needs to be there as well. I want to see dialogue between Tony and Banner. They are opposites so it would make for good comic relief!

 

[Norm3]

I hope it play out like the Original series. With Hulk joining the Avengers. But they need to have him show some intelligence for a change. He needs to start speaking.

 

[Cyclonus]

Well they didn't portray the Hulk as dumb really in the 2008 version, so they should have him speak in the Avengers film, he was just quit most of the film talking wise. He did show some intelligence though in the beginning of the film when he transformed in that plant and the soldiers were trying to shoot at him and he said - leave me alone, also in the fight with the Abomination and the Abomination asked him - any last words, and the Hulk replied - Hulk Smash. He seemed to understand people when they spoke to him in the film, so he is not a complete savage Hulk, he did show intelligence in the other parts of the film also.

 

[Timstuff]

Edward Norton recently said that he would reprise the role of Bruce Banner, aka the incredible Hulk, if the fans wanted him to.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/05/14/edward-norton-the-avengers/

Show your support for Ed Norton as the Hulk by signing this petition! Hopefully, if we get enough signatures, the bigwigs at Marvel Studios will get the message!


http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/BringBackEdNorton

Signed! I would have donated too, but I'm a bit cash-strapped right now. $10 would be pretty easy to part with since I'd consider it just using the money that would have gone to my ticket for Incredible Hulk 2 which I was not able to buy.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Anyone else think that part of the purposeful hype and "drama" leading up to the actual film is why there's so much unknown about the Hulk and whether or not Norton will reprise the role?

 

[jadejaws]

After reading the Hollywood Reporter article, I'm starting to scratch my head on whether the Hulk will even be included in Avengers at this point. Although, common sense dictates that Marvel would have to be completely "gone" to leave him out considering the RDJ cameo in TIH and the news snippet in IM2. IMO
One thing I've been wondering a lot lately is what they'll do visually with the Hulk should Norton not return. I mean, would Marvel completely redesign him at this point? Will the Hulk still look like the version we got in TIH? I personally enjoyed the design in 2008. There were a few things body wise that I may have done differently, but the facial/hair concepts were perfect. I guess I'd be disappointed if they went a completely different route...anyone have thoughts on what they might do?

 

[Son of Coul]

Feige has said Hulk is definitely in, Banner they're not sure yet.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Anyone check out this interview with Joe Carnahan ("Smokin' Aces") .... apparently Marvel had brief discussions with him to direct the Avengers. He had some interesting things to say about The Hulk .....

Paramount Pictures and Marvel Studios previously announced that “Firefly” and “Buffy” creator Joss Whedon would be helming the film, which is currently scheduled for release in 2012. But Carnahan confessed to MTV that he found more than a few interesting directions that he thinks a successful "Avengers" movie could go.

"You always wind up in conversations, and there was an 'Avengers' conversation," Carnahan admitted during an interview with MTV News on Saturday. "But it wasn't really a thorough one. I was sent the material [and] I loved it." Few details have been unveiled thus far about the film, but he reiterated some of the speculated story details, which include a team-up by Marvel superheroes to stop none other than the Hulk. "I think the 'Avengers' movie you make is Hulk tearing up Manhattan and the Avengers have got to go in there and shut him down," he said. "I think it's very cool."

Carnahan said that given the volume of mythologies and individual stories that each superhero could get into by him- or herself, there are only so many options that filmmakers have for a feature-length adventure. "I think that you're going to have to very quickly get to this situation where you start to make your heroes into villains," Carnahan observed. "I think that somebody like the Hulk, it's such a great place to take him."

At the same time he admitted that such creative decisions might kill the possibility for future installments for at least one of the involved heroes, who to date include Hulk, Iron Man, Black Widow, Thor, Captain America, Nick Fury, and Hawkeye. "[For Hulk] I think they may consider that kind of the franchise-killer, but I think something like that would be awfully interesting." Regardless, Carnahan acknowledged that he's as excited as the rest of us to see how Whedon and company help the Avengers assemble. "Listen - you've got Joss Whedon and he's talented as hell," he said. "I think he's going to do a fantastic job with that."

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/06/0...lks-for-the-avengers-favored-hulk-as-villain/

 

[Doctor Jones]

So the Hulk will be bad? I'm fine with that. It gives more development room anyway and we can still see some Banner stuff.

 

[Rock Sexton]

So the Hulk will be bad? I'm fine with that. It gives more development room anyway and we can still see some Banner stuff.

My whole thing is why not do both? They have to take him down in the beginning, as sort of the initial test run of the Avengers all working together. This gets them ready for an even larger threat, when they will need his assistance.

Banner still hadn't learned how to control the Hulk until the end of TIH with the Abomination fight and the meditation scene. Yes, he indeed was learning to induce himself, I've watched the movie almost a hundred times already and that scene is quite blatant to me.... but now that he can, they could more strategically employ his abilities.

Norton definitely has the range to play a bad guy, but it wouldn't work in the course of a full Avengers movie because we already know Banner to be the likable scientist. Having Hulk in the movie with no Banner is like having Cap without his shield, Thor without his hammer, Iron Man without his suit ..... I mean talk about "short changing" the character. It would be almost offensive to only have the Hulk.

 

[Sarg92]

It would be stupid to have Hulk as the main villain in The Avengers! Marvel need to bring new characters that we haven't seen in films yet or bring other actual villains like Loki into the film so that there is a sense of this "Marvel Universe" and that all these characters exist in the same place!

Hulk is fine for being a threat that is the first mission for the Avengers but there should be an actual villain in the film that is of a bigger threat than the Hulk and in the end they need his help to take the villain down. Correct me if I'm wrong but in the comics; didn't the Avengers team up to take down a Loki controlled Hulk and then he helped them later on to take down Loki?

One thing that I don't like from the Carnahan interview is that Marvel are considering or have considered using Hulk as the villain so that they can kill off any possibility of a Hulk franchise!

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If Hulk is the main villain it will be a ridiculous decision by Marvel, as they will run the characters name into the ground, the Hulk is an anti-hero, not a villain.

I wouldnt mind him 'appearing' as a villain for the first half of the movie, but during a fight the Hulk saves a bunch of innocents from a collapsing building and they realise he isnt a villain, he is just defending himself.

I am really interested with what Whedon does with the character, but I hope they aint making him the villain.

 

[Microchip]

Don't know if everyone saw this comment in the other thread, but...

I have it on good authority that Ed Norton is returning and, depending on scheduling, he'll be appearing alongside Renner et al for the official announcements at SDCC.

That'd be great. In the buildup to the Avengers movie, maybe when it's about 6-8 months off, they should release a TIH director's cut. (A)because it'll remind everyone about the Hulk who will have been absent for about 4 years by that point, and (B)because it'd probably be a better movie, a lot of the cut stuff looked interesting.

 

[Spidey Snooch]

If Edward Norton and Marvel don't work things out, how about Frank Whaley for Banner? He's DEFINITELY got the whole semi-psycho thing going on; he usually looks like he's about 5 seconds from snapping. I think he's perfect.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Not gonna happen. It's pretty likely Norton's gonna return & THANK GOD! Norton's a great Banner.

I'd be fun with dumb Hulk, as long as he talks more. I think Hawkeye & Hulk could be the comedic relief in the movie.

 

[OptimusPrime114]

I've been thinking lately. If they ever do new hulk movie that is based on that storyline from the 80's where the Hulk, for time, had Banner's brain, how should they do that?

 

[irapogi]

i have a feeling we'll have norton in the avengers panel as a surprise in SDCC. i'd totally cream myself if that happened.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Anyone else think that part of the purposeful hype and "drama" leading up to the actual film is why there's so much unknown about the Hulk and whether or not Norton will reprise the role?

It is interesting, but idk if it is puposeful.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

so.... anything new?

 

[irapogi]

sadly no i guess. i'm overseas so i can't tell properly, but how far away is SDCC?