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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Thread Manager, Aug 31, 2012.
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We have a thread for Obama, might as well have a Mitt Romney thread as well.
Figured this would be a good way to start it off.
Romney overtakes Obama in polls
Well, let the bashing begin.
I should probably add I don't think Romney has the right to refer to himself as a job creator and should be called out on it, he was a wealth creator
BREAKING NEWS. RON PAUL TO BE ON THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO SEPT 4TH. MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT.
Do you think Romney is worried? There are two options. Paul will endorse Libertarian Gary Johnson in some way, or he is doing a write-in campaign (15 states). He has lots of $$$ left over.
He's not going to do either. His major announcement will probably be how his movement continues on in the future.
I don't think paul will do anything to screw his sons politcal future
After the recent disrespect from the GOP and the TSA, I doubt he does that. Although I did read he is gonna be on the show, but no announcement. There si no reason for him to be on the show if he isn't saying 'Vote for Gary Johnson' or 'I am doing a write-in campaign, suck it GOP'
If he just say the movement continues...well, Paul supporters are already going to Johnson...so...sadly it seems to be a small % that are so far finding the Johnson/Gray ticket...only 25K has been raised in the last 2days towards the GJ2012 ongoing Get Gary on TV money bomb. At $355,890,.25 Not really enough...he can do quite a bit of radio ad time with that $$$. He has two ads ready to go out onto the radio. Whaetver happens, happens around mid Sept.
After what they did to him... I'm not so sure he'll go away quietly. You can only throw a man under a bus so many times.
Let's hope he goes old school Clint Eastwood...
and not new school Clint Eastwood...
Although looking at the empty chair while endorsing Johnson would be amusing...or better yet endorsing Romney while interacting with a empty chair...
What happend with Ron Paul?
anybody notice Romney or the RNC failed to mention he went to Havard. You think somebody would take pride in something like that but I guess for that audience that is considered a negative
TSA thought Paul was a 'threat to Romney''
Paul seems to be done with the GOP as well...
Romney Adviser Lowers Post-Convention Bump Expectations
I think in this day of 24 hour cable news channels, the bump you can get from conventions is not that big since generally people form their opinions sometimes of a candidate from the first time we get introduced to the candidate but as it stands now I think alot of people have formed an opinion from all the stuff we seen already, that the convention won't change
Neither candidate is going to get much of a bounce these days....at the most maybe 4 points....
The debates will shake things up.
no...the debates are not debates. nothing but softball questions. CPD won't allow it. I'm not watching unless Jonshon/3rd parties get in.
I don't know how much, maybe one of them....but the moderators aren't that great...they are ok. They don't want to throw Obama off...so I don't think the questions will be all that hardball, and they want to look unbiased so they can't hit Romney too hard or they will end up on an SNL skit like CNN was after the Clinton/Obama debate....I'm afraid they will be pretty meh.
Commission on Presidential Debates. Ran by Democrats and Republicans...in 1987 the League of Women Voters quit doing the national debates. Since the CPD has taken over only one election year has a 3rd party gotten into the debates, and in 2000 they announced a 15% threshold to get into the debates. But they let Gallup decide which 3 or 5 polls matter and those polls don't poll 3rd party on a regular basis.
I have very harsh words for them...NC-17 style. But for the time being I play nice and just e-mail and call them demanding/asking Johnson gets into the debates. I rather go down kicking and screaming til the bitter end than do nothing and just hope they let him into one. They decided tomorrow I believe on the debates...Johnson won't get in, so from the 3rd to the first debate it's time to just blitz their asses off.
I don't think it's worth having a third party representative in the debates. Fifteen percent is pretty generous, actually.
There's nothing easier in the world than being an Independent or third party candidate in an election you have no chance at winning. You can promise the sun, moon and stars knowing full well that you could not and won't have to deliver on any of your promises. Personally I think that lowers the level of debate rather than raises it.
No, 15% is too high. Gallup default position is to not include any 3rd parties i their polling. Perot got invited to the debates at 7%. Although he had around 40% that summer, then dropped out, came back in Sept or Oct and was at that 7% when into the debates I believe.
Pretty hard to also get invited when the thing is rigged. Rasmussen put him in 1 poll finally and he got 1%. 16% favorable, 20% unfavorable, 63% no opinion.Then he got dropped. This was last week. Then in like June or July, he was at 3% in a ''special'' Gallup 3rd party inclusion poll. After that he was dropped. And PPP only includes him in ''libertarian leaning'' states. Nationally according to a late August polling of JZ/Washington Times he is at 3.8%.
He has tv ad/radio ads coming out middle Sept.
Why is fifteen percent too high? If anything, it's astonishingly low to be given access to a debate wherein there are three candidates and (ideally) all are given equal time. Fifteen percent is very generous. I'd have no qualms with it being raised to twenty percent.
Inviting a third party candidate is not the magic pill to fix politics. Neither are third party candidates who promise to fix all of your problems despite knowing what they are saying is impossible.
Hmmm, it's not easy in America. Especially if they are serious about fixing the nation. The two party system is so ingrained in America's conscious that a third party has no chance BECAUSE they don't get the same national attention. And it would raise the level of debate because it would force the other candidates to offer more than generic talking points.
A new Gallup poll shows that 38% of national adults rated Mitt Romneys convention speech as either excellent or good -- that's the lowest percentage since Gallup began tracking this question in 1996.
*The other past convention speeches:
58% said Barack Obamas 08 speech was excellent or good
52% said the same of John Kerrys 04 speech
52% for Bob Doles 96 speech
51% for Al Gores 00 speech
51% for George W. Bushs 00 speech
49% for Bushs 04 speech
47% for John McCains 08 speech
The Gallup poll also found that 40% of national adults said the GOPs convention made them more likely to vote for Romney, while 38% said it made them less likely.