The Official Mitt Romney Thread

[hippie_hunter]

Except Romney has already explained most of his former positions, even the pundits thought he did an adequate job during the primaries.

 

[Thundercrack85]

It's somewhat unusual for someone to change their view on virtually every position they have ever held, especially in the course of 4 years.

 

[Thor The Mighty]

It's somewhat unusual for someone to change their view on virtually every position they have ever held, especially in the course of 4 years.

I agree. It makes one think that he will say anything to be elected and has no real ethics. I agree that a lot of politicians have flip flopped but Romney in particular has this problem.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

The Romney campaign said on Tuesday that its ads attacking President Obama's waiver policy on welfare have been its most effective to date. And while the spots have been roundly criticized as lacking any factual basis, the campaign said it didn't really care. "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers," Romney pollster Neil Newhouse said at a panel organized by ABC News. This is a different standard than the one Romney himself has held up for the election-season ad wars. Reacting to attacks by a pro-Obama super PAC, Romney recently told a radio station that "in the past, when people pointed out that something was inaccurate, why, campaigns pulled the ad." The presumptive nominee's top communications hand, Eric Ferhnstrom, was quick to make the case that the two instances were not comparable.

So Rmoney doesn't care about running ads that are truthful. Great, just what we need from a president

 

[terry78]

There you have it.

 

[Kelly]

Well, hell then who are you going to vote for? Obama doesn't care either....

Hmmmm....

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Well, hell then who are you going to vote for? Obama doesn't care either....

Hmmmm....

Name one of Obama's ads that are blatantly false? Mind you the dead wife ad is a super PAC.

 

[hippie_hunter]

It's somewhat unusual for someone to change their view on virtually every position they have ever held, especially in the course of 4 years.

Except Romney has been pretty consistent from 2008 - 2012. His flip flopping positions come from when he was running for Senate and his tenure as governor.

Name one of Obama's ads that are blatantly false?

- Obama's "Truth" Team claims that Mitt Romney would ban all abortion, even in the case of rape or incest. That is blatantly false, Mitt Romney all the way back in 2005 has come out saying that he supports certain exceptions for abortion like rape and incest, and he has even put out advertisements twisting Romney's position on abortion to make it come out as Akin-styled extremism:
http://www.barackobama.com/truth-te...source=obama&utm_campaign=em12_20120822_sc_tt

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- Or don't forget how the Obama campaign has tried to paint Romney as a corporate raider who shipped jobs to China and Mexico. Ignoring the fact that Bain Capital under Romney did not perform any hostile takeovers that corporate raiders do and the jobs shipped overseas that the Obama campaign claims, happened after Romney left Bain Capital

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- The Obama campaign tries to paint that Romney would only pay 1% of his income in taxes under the Ryan plan, ignoring the fact that this plan has been dropped from future Ryan budgets.

And yeah, fact checking organizations from the Washington Post and FactCheck.org and PolitiFact have all called Obama several times.

Mind you the dead wife ad is a super PAC.

Priorities USA Action is an extension of the Obama campaign, the same way that Restore our Future is an extension of the Romney campaign. It was founded by "former" members of the Obama campaign team, it has Obama's endorsement, it was founded to specifically raise money for Obama's re-election efforts, and the Obama team refuses to denounce the actions of Priorities USA, all the while it's reported that behind the scenes Obama is totally fine with the negativity that Priorities USA has stooped to (at least Gingrich faked his outrage at Winning Our Future).

This isn't like Crossroads GPS, or super PACs funding by groups like the NRA, unions, and corporations. Priorities USA Action and Restore our Future are nothing but "unofficial" parts of the Obama and Romney campaigns. And they should be ashamed of them for using them for the extreme negativity while thinking that their hands are clean.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

All I saw about the abortion stance was that Ryan has said no abortions under any circumstance. I do agree with you on the fact that these super pacs are garbage under handed tactics on both sides

 

[hippie_hunter]

Even Ryan has come out in favor of those particular, and rare, circumstances.

 

[SV Fan]

Even Ryan has come out in favor of those particular, and rare, circumstances.

It doesn't change the fact that Ryan and Akin co-authored abortion bills together. I thought Ryan was supposed to be Mr Budget Expert(here is a tip to Mr Ryan, if you want to cut the budget the military is the easiest thing to cut, until defense spending is on the table I think he is full of poop)

 

[Kelly]

I would need to look at the specific restrictions in the bill they sponsored together, have not found that yet....and as far as stopping Federal of funding of abortions? Which I do know was in the bill..... I'm totally for that, I do not think my taxpayer dollars should be paying for elective surgery....

Do I have a problem with federal funding going to sex education from 6th grade on up? Sure go for it....but for abortions? no...

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Even Ryan has come out in favor of those particular, and rare, circumstances.

Republicans emphatically approved a toughly worded party platform at their national convention Tuesday that would ban all abortions and gay marriages, reshape Medicare into a voucher-like program and cut taxes to energize the economy and create jobs.

That's the official GOP platform that they are running on just released from the RNC it does not state any exceptions.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobil...rtion_n_1837571.html?icid=hp_politics_top_art

 

[SV Fan]

Do I have a problem with federal funding going to sex education from 6th grade on up? Sure go for it....but for abortions? no...

Think of abortions this way, it saves you money in the long run. :P

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I would need to look at the specific restrictions in the bill they sponsored together, have not found that yet....and as far as stopping Federal of funding of abortions? Which I do know was in the bill..... I'm totally for that, I do not think my taxpayer dollars should be paying for elective surgery....

Do I have a problem with federal funding going to sex education from 6th grade on up? Sure go for it....but for abortions? no...

The big how-do-ya-do about the bill with Akin was that it said "forcable" rape as if there is any other type of rape

 

[SV Fan]

The big how-do-ya-do about the bill with Akin was that it said "forcable" rape as if there is any other type of rape

In defense of the word forceable, their is statutory rape(ie say if a 20 year old boinks a 15 year old who willfully allows it). The word forceable basically wanted to stop those abortions

I think my biggest peeve with some Republicans is they go on and on how they want Government out of peoples lives, then when it comes to many social issues they the exact opposite of Big Government staying out of your life. that and the fact they want to cut spending and heaven forbid you touch 1 cent from defense. It's hard to take them seriously.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Ya but even in the case of a 15 year old getting knocked up in a statutory case an abortion should be allowed if she wants it. Unless of course she is looking to get on MTV

 

[Marvolo]

A mother should have the right to an abortion and shouldnt be up to an old congressman to tell her when it is ok.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobil...ition_n_1837456.html?icid=hp_politics_top_art

Here is an article all about how Mittens Rmoney has flip flopped and changed his position which is not clear and is also different than what the GOP platform is and it also goes into the Ryan/Akin bill too

 

[Lighthouse]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobil...ition_n_1837456.html?icid=hp_politics_top_art

Here is an article all about how Mittens Rmoney has flip flopped and changed his position which is not clear and is also different than what the GOP platform is and it also goes into the Ryan/Akin bill too

I'm actually kind of ok with his lack of integrity. I'd much rather have him change his views to get elected than to actually have those crazy views.

 

[Kelly]

A mother should have the right to an abortion and shouldnt be up to an old congressman to tell her when it is ok.

I agree, but I do believe that "late term abortions", "live birth" regulations should be in place.

I see no reason why a choice of abortion cannot stay within the first trimester....that is 3 months......make a decision. AND, don't ask me to pay for it.....

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

A group of coal miners in Ohio feel they would have been fired if they did not attend an Aug. 14 event with presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and contribute to his campaign —and to make matters worse, they lost of day of pay for their trouble.

In phone calls and emails to WWVA radio host David Blomquist, employees at the Century Mine in Ohio said they feared retaliation if they did not attend the Romney event.

That's just messed up



Edit: Sorry, I had to take the link out, it had wording in the blog that is not allowed on this site.... : /

Coal miners forced to attend Romney event and donate to his campaign!
08.28.2012
12:26 pm



No sooner did I post the below item on the Battle for Blair Mountain—the largest working class uprising in American history that you’ve probably never heard of—then I clicked over to Raw Story to find this puke-inducing item: Coal miners say they were forced to attend Romney event and donate.
This story broke on the WWVA AM radio station in my own hometown of Wheeling, WV. I’ve got no doubt that many, probably most, of these miners will be voting for Mitt Romney, anyway, but this is still ******* shameful, isn’t it?

A group of coal miners in Ohio feel they would have been fired if they did not attend an Aug. 14 event with presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and contribute to his campaign — and to make matters worse, they lost of day of pay for their trouble.
In phone calls and emails to WWVA radio host David Blomquist, employees at the Century Mine in Ohio said they feared retaliation if they did not attend the Romney event.
“Yes, we were in fact told that the Romney event was mandatory and would be without pay, that the hours spent there would need to be made up my non-salaried employees outside of regular working hours, with the only other option being to take a pay cut for the equivalent time,” the employees told Blomquist. “Yes, letters have gone around with lists of names of employees who have not attended or donated to political events.”
“I realize that many people in this area and elsewhere would love to have my job or my benefits,” one worker explained. “And our bosses do not hesitate in reminding us of this. However, I can not agree with these callers and my supervisors, who are saying that just because you have a good job, that you should have to work any day for free on almost no notice without your consent.”
“We do not appreciate being intimidated into exchanging our time for nothing. I heard one of your callers saying that Murray employees are well aware of what they are getting into upon hire, or that they are informed that a percentage of their income will go to political donations. I can not speak for that caller, but this is news for me. We merely find out how things work by experience.”
Murray Energy Chief Financial Officer Rob Moore told Blomquist that the charges were untrue.
“There were no workers that were forced to attend the event,” Moore said. “We had managers that communicated to our work force that the attendance at the Romney event was mandatory, but no one was forced to attend the event. We had a pre-registration list. And employees were asked to put their names on a pre-registration list because they could not get into the event unless they were pre-registered and had a name tag to enter the premises.”
“What about not getting paid for an eight-hour day?” Blomquist wondered. “If the mine was shut down for the visit, I understand, but wouldn’t it be fair — let’s use the word ‘fair’ — to still pay these individuals for that day? I mean, it wasn’t their fault they weren’t working.”
“Our management people wanted to attend the event and we could not have people underground during Romney’s visit,” Moore insisted.
“But why not still pay then their wage for that day?” Blomquist pressed.
“By federal election law, we could not pay people to attend the event,” Moore replied. “And we did not want anyone to come back and see where anyone had been paid for that day.”
“I’m not saying pay then to attend the event, I’m saying, ‘Hey look, we have to close down the mine, if you want to attend this event, that’s fine, but you’re still going to get a day’s pay for the work that you would have done,’” Blomquist pointed out. “Why not do that?”
“As a private employer, it was our decision and we made the decision not to pay the people,” the Murray chief financial officer said.
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The Center for Responsive Politics show that Murray Energy has contributed nearly one million dollars to Republican candidates in the past two years. I wonder where all that filthy lucre came from? Actually I don’t, it’s pretty damned obvious where it came from.

 

[Kelly]

Well, they don't look too happy in the picture...

And hell, they shouldn't have gone, if they were fired they could have sued and got to retire early....

I smell something in all of that....and it ain't coal. ; )

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Ya I feel bad for those guys but its not like most of them probably are voting for Obama. Just seems like they should have just done the event when they weren't working

 

[SV Fan]

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Funny stuff, to bad this wasn't shown in prime time. lol