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Well, apparently, the Sinister 666 is NOT The Grim Hunt as evidenced by the new interview:

Following OMIT, Spider-Man will be thrown into the “Origin of the Species” story; which Wacker and Azaceta are extremely excited about. Originally planning to call the arc “Sinister 666”, fans can expect numerous appearances from Spidey’s rogues gallery as Wacker said they “throw everyone we can at Spider-Man.” Azaceta promised the likes of Freak, Rhino, and Electro will be returning to make Peter Parker’s life just that much more difficult in the arc.

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There were some early pages of the first part shown a few months back that had the Lizard running away looking like the "Lizard of old", and I see by the new pages that the Lizard has been replaced by Vermin...

Nice catch by Spidey editorial... :up:

:yay:
 
There were some early pages of the first part shown a few months back that had the Lizard running away looking like the "Lizard of old", and I see by the new pages that the Lizard has been replaced by Vermin...

Nice catch by Spidey editorial... :up:

:yay:

So they did change that, huh? That is a nice move on their part. They probably should have been on top of that a little sooner, heh. However, that is pretty cool and that should calm down the animosity of the fans who were flipping out over it.

I have a feeling we'll be hearing "This is a pretty solid story but the artwork is crappy".

I actually like Paul Azaceta's work on Spider-Man and think he's leaps and bounds better than Max Fiumara. :o
 
I'm looking forward to this arc! :woot:

But, then again, I felt that way about OMIT... :csad:

Well, at least this isn't written by Joe Q! :woot:
 
So they did change that, huh? That is a nice move on their part. They probably should have been on top of that a little sooner, heh. However, that is pretty cool and that should calm down the animosity of the fans who were flipping out over it.

I have a feeling we'll be hearing "This is a pretty solid story but the artwork is crappy".

I actually like Paul Azaceta's work on Spider-Man and think he's leaps and bounds better than Max Fiumara. :o
LOL, i noticed the lizard art and someone chided me for it.
Said it was a different artist so they could draw it anyway they wanted...
basically...screw continuity, which is why we are now where we are...
 
I'm hoping this is the story where Kaine puts Kraven back into the ground.
 
Loved the first issue to this arc. Doc Ock was so badass in it.

Best part was then Menace was screaming from her contraction pains when she's in labour, and Ock shoves a tentacle claw on her mouth and tells her to be silent. LOL. He delivers her baby, and holds it up in his tentacles and sarcastically congratulates Lilly on having a boy.
 
Just picked this one up today, glanced through it and it looks pretty nice (Azaceta has a unique style, and I enjoy his work every once in a while). I'll have to add more thoughts upon reading it.
 
Least we forget that there was another issue of Amazing Spider-Man that came out today, here’s what I thought of Amazing Spider-Man #642, the first part of the much anticipated (i.e. heavily promoted) “Origin of the Species.”


In the first place, Paul Azaceta is not the right artist for a comic like this. It just looks like a bland imitation of Mike Mignola’s work on Hellboy only without the atmosphere and energy. Not to mention Javier Rodriguez’s coloring doesn’t help matters either since it results making the pencils look incredibly flat, stiff, and lifeless. Well, at it somewhat gets better towards the end of the issue when the action starts, though.

Basically, much of Mark Waid’s script in the first half is Peter Parker, once again, experiencing typical hard-luck, in this case trying to prepare for his date with Carlie Cooper. This includes trying to sell his camera for some ready cash (with Betty Brant having to graciously buy it off him when he can’t sell it for a decent price), having to deal with the consequences of being fired and blacklisted by J. Jonah Jameson, forced to wear a ugly sweater in the blazing heat for his date after having no other clothes, and having his ex, Mary Jane, there at the Coffee Bean to entertain Carlie via telling embarrassing stories about him.

Now, this would be fine, if atypical, fare, if Waid offered us a real reason why Peter is so ga-ga over Carlie or why we should care about wanting these two to be a couple. Is it because she was concerned about how hot he was in that sweater? Or that she was worried what happened to Peter when he “disappeared” after Lily crashed through the Coffee Bean and villains started showing up? Well, so would any other girl Peter would date and who didn’t know he was Spider-Man. Again, we keep getting TOLD how wonderful Carlie is for Peter, but not really SHOWN this. And no, having Peter think to himself how different she is from the Black Cat and MJ, or having MJ herself tell Peter she approves of her ex’s date by saying how she “likes her” because she’s “really present” and “knows there’s more to life than her”--despite us not actually seeing Carlie exhibit these qualities--is not good enough.

Waid, however, has no such problem with Michele Gonzales, as once again we see why she quickly became one of the more despised members of the supporting cast in Brand New Day: proving that lawyers really are outright crooks and thieves, she sells Peter’s clothes so that she can get his share of the rent. So much for Fred Van Lente trying to redeem her character in issue #626.

Things pick up though in the second half when Harry Osborn’s ex-fiancée, Lily Hollister, a.k.a. Menace (and ANOTHER one of Norman Osborn‘s baby mammas), crashes through the coffee shop and starts going into labor. This caused Peter to slip out and change into Spider-Man, just in time for the Shocker and Tombstone, just one of several villains hired by Doctor Octopus to find her. And then Doc Ock himself shows up just in time to perform what is probably the creepiest baby delivery of the week. This part of the story is appropriately fast-paced and frenetic, but it does seem as though it’s over rather quickly, even though it certainly does set-up a nice cliffhanger for part two.

Make no mistake, out of the two issues of Amazing Spider-Man that have come out this week, this is the better of the two. Unfortunately, what is supposed to kick-off the story arc that’s supposed to bring all the various subplots that have been around since Brand New Day to a head comes across like a phoned-in, generic Spider-Man story for at least 2/3 of the issue. Not exactly an ideal start, especially in the wake of One Moment in Time.

http://stillanerd.livejournal.com/2833.html
 
So wait... Let me get this straight.

Norman Osborn impregnated Carlie in hopes a new heir of the Osborn/Goblin throne, and set up zero securities for her and her child? Seriously? He's a billionaire, and oh yeah, RAN THE WORLD FOR A WHILE.
 
So wait... Let me get this straight.

Norman Osborn impregnated Carlie in hopes a new heir of the Osborn/Goblin throne, and set up zero securities for her and her child? Seriously? He's a billionaire, and oh yeah, RAN THE WORLD FOR A WHILE.

Slight correction aside that it's Lily, not Carlie, who Norman Osborn impregnated, excellent point!
 
I'm still a bit behind on Spidey, but uh...when did Norman and Lily do the Nasty Nirdlinger? And why?! I thought she loved Harry, or do I have no idea what I'm talking about? :dry:
 
It's all very complicated, i don't even get some of the stuff...
the timeline seems to jump back and forth. certain things are said and done that seem like they should take place issues earlier, while oothers just feel completely out of place.
The "Camera-Con" seems like it should've been a few months ago in that it didn't really add to the story here, but wouldv'e a while back. that's my opinion though...
 
Slight correction aside that it's Lily, not Carlie, who Norman Osborn impregnated, excellent point!

You might want to add yet.

As for this issue? Sigh. Where to start?

The art? Wow! What happened to Pete & the supporting cast? You know, I've head some purists thought John Romita Sr. glamorized the cast. This issue, talk about de-glamorization!

The Parker luck? Just came off as ridiculous. And MJ approving of Carlie? Seriously, Marvel, you're trying too hard.

As for the Lily scene, why the hell was she flying around on that glider in the first place?

Hope fades again... :csad:
 
So wait... Let me get this straight.

Norman Osborn impregnated Carlie in hopes a new heir of the Osborn/Goblin throne, and set up zero securities for her and her child? Seriously? He's a billionaire, and oh yeah, RAN THE WORLD FOR A WHILE.

Well, he is also now the most hated man in the world and locked up in prison. So, whatever funds he had were and are confiscated by the United States government.
 
Yes, but it's Norman, there are always hideouts and fail-safes just in case...
As for Paul's art... OMG, i think i actually prefer Joe Q's... I didn't even know that was Pete and Betty in the beginning....
 
Oh man I can't get over the "fat Spidey" this in issue... :woot::woot::woot:

I just read some old 80's issues of Amazing today. Why is it that they write the comics like parodies today?

Daredevil isn't written like a really bad sit-com why is Spidey handled like crap?
 
Because that's what we were mind-wiped into wanting....
 
Wait a ****ing minute- Did they actually show a 9 month pregnant woman in a hospital gown riding on a Goblin flyer? Is this the idiocy these comics have devolved into?

Although the pencilling is pretty good. It's just the inking and coloring that make it look like shelf assembly instructions.
 
Wait a ****ing minute- Did they actually show a 9 month pregnant woman in a hospital gown riding on a Goblin flyer? Is this the idiocy these comics have devolved into?

LOL, yes they did. And Ock delivered the baby.
 

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