The Official Superman Thread

[Darthphere]

This has me thinking of that crappy Bruce Willis movie about the kid with autism.

 

[Hush]

Mercury Rising ^^^

 

[SouLeSS]

Seeing Bizzaro snapping that kids arm, the kid crying, and him going "You am not super-you. You break." then just throwing him aside to his doom was worth the 3$ TBPH

 

[Michael Corleone]

They didn't understand because they were stupid.

They didn't need to understand it to know it was an hack job of a story that would have been lined up with the likes of Austen. The only reason it got any attention was because of Lee's artwork.

 

[Knives122]

Seeing Bizzaro snapping that kids arm, the kid crying, and him going "You am not super-you. You break." then just throwing him aside to his doom was worth the 3$ TBPH

Yeah that was cool, but I'm betting Zod, his goonies and his son all get thrown back to the phantom zone.

 

[The Leaguer]

They didn't need to understand it to know it was an hack job of a story that would have been lined up with the likes of Austen. The only reason it got any attention was because of Lee's artwork.

The stupid element remains.

 

[Darthphere]

They didn't need to understand it to know it was an hack job of a story that would have been lined up with the likes of Austen. The only reason it got any attention was because of Lee's artwork.

Azzarello being compared to Austen is just stupid, you proved Leaguer right.

 

[Mee]

I don't read much Superman, but I thought For Tomorrow was great.

 

[Darthphere]

Seeing Bizzaro snapping that kids arm, the kid crying, and him going "You am not super-you. You break." then just throwing him aside to his doom was worth the 3$ TBPH

Yeah that was awesome.....when I saw it in that old Frankenstein movie with the little girl by the lake like 60 years ago.

 

[yenaled]

I actually read the two issues today, I'd passed before on a few reasons. Mainly not liking previews, solit information and reviews. But my friend had bought them so I read them.

Oh god

This just feels like Donner was pissed off that WB didn't run with him for the new Superman movie so is just doing HIS sequel in comic book form.

Geoff Johns hasn't managed to keep characterization straight from Up, Up & Away to this. Superman calling people of Earth "them" after he just lived a year as a normal human and having no trouble what so ever fitting in, Perry White is mental, Clark can't talk to his parents but goes and talks to a hologram of a dead father he never knew.

Naming of the child annoyed me as well, didn't even occur to Clark or Lois to mention Connor as a possible name? Something with emotional significance to the characters. Yes, Christopher is a nice homage to Reeves but means nothing in the comics... if in the movies the son was called Christopher it would mean a lot, the comics not as much. Jerry or Joe means more if you want to go the homage route.

And yay, another version of Zod.

This Superman just feels old and outdated, where as Busiek is writing a Superman which feels perfect for this period of time and perfect for his world.

Yes a little rant, but it's so annoying especially when this out selling Superman which is so much better in both the writing and the art.

 

[Darthphere]

I actually read the two issues today, I'd passed before on a few reasons. Mainly not liking previews, solit information and reviews. But my friend had bought them so I read them.

Oh god

This just feels like Donner was pissed off that WB didn't run with him for the new Superman movie so is just doing HIS sequel in comic book form.

Geoff Johns hasn't managed to keep characterization straight from Up, Up & Away to this. Superman calling people of Earth "them" after he just lived a year as a normal human and having no trouble what so ever fitting in, Perry White is mental, Clark can't talk to his parents but goes and talks to a hologram of a dead father he never knew.

Naming of the child annoyed me as well, didn't even occur to Clark or Lois to mention Connor as a possible name? Something with emotional significance to the characters. Yes, Christopher is a nice homage to Reeves but means nothing in the comics... if in the movies the son was called Christopher it would mean a lot, the comics not as much. Jerry or Joe means more if you want to go the homage route.

And yay, another version of Zod.

This Superman just feels old and outdated, where as Busiek is writing a Superman which feels perfect for this period of time and perfect for his world.

Yes a little rant, but it's so annoying especially when this out selling Superman which is so much better in both the writing and the art.

Bravo.

 

[Assassin]

I wish this was All star superman, because while i love this story because my love for superman 1 and 2 (donner cut ****ing rocks) I hate it when i relize its not an alternate reality.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I wish this was All star superman, because while i love this story because my love for superman 1 and 2 (donner cut ****ing rocks) I hate it when i relize its not an alternate reality.

I have to agree but with Superman now being a dad in the movies it was only a matter of time before they did the same to him in the comics. Remember they have been trying to make him a dad for a while since Lois and Clark there have been talks of it. It just died down till SR.

 

[Assassin]

but its not what the fans want. give him a Ward, not a son

 

[Mee]

How bout neither.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

but its not what the fans want. give him a Ward, not a son

Conner was his ward and look how he treated him

 

[sethcohen]

for me, both these stories (movie and the current comic) miss the mark on something i have been hoping to see in superman for a long time for a multitude of reasons. firstly i had hoped that the comics would be the first to give him a child, not a poorly concived movie making him the ultimate deadbeat dad as well as solidifying one of the stupidest ideas about superman and lois lane in the public minds (lois and clark cant have sex because of his abilities, let alone concieve, BULL****!)

the book misses the mark for me in that it just interjects this lil kryptonian brat from the phantom zone... again, why cant lois and clark just have a kid? no cop-outs about his powers preventing it, just let them have a kid. then on top of it we get the 42nd version of zod? shoot me in the face that sucks... didnt we cover this post crisis? isnt zod dead?! what the hell... the first crisis was necesarry for the evolution of the DCU... it couldnt possibly continue the way it was because storytelling had evolved from stand alone stories, to "serial" storytelling to continuity as we now know it. but now IC is just rewriting for the sake of rewriting... oh? whats that? donner wants zod? ok, superboy-prime can just erase him from before! yay! now donner gets his wish! this sucks... change for the sake of evolution is good, but change for the sake of change just plain sucks... its stuff like this and what has been done to wally and bart over on the flash that really is just making me begin to resent IC... this whole story wreaks of cowardess... i wish a writer would grow some balls and just GIVE HIM a kid without all these lame strings attached... kurt busiek is the only writer i know of thats had the balls to say that lois and clark do actually have sex... and its pretty obvious that even though kal-el is an alien, he is still a mammal so it is concievable that a child could be born...

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

They did do a story once about them having kids and while the kid was inside Lois it kicked her so hard it killed her.

 

[sethcohen]

wasnt that mallrats?

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

No an annual story, a very good one it showed why Lois and Superman could never have a kid. But things have changed since the 90's so who knows.

 

[sethcohen]

so it was an out of continuity story? and besides, im pretty sure that as of post crisis kal didn begin to develop abilities until adolecence, putting lois in the clear of a suntan induced cannonball kick from the inside out.

 

[yenaled]

I wouldn't mind one bit if he has a son, I'd love Lois to go through pregnancy and to give birth to an actual son of Superman. It would be cool and would work with Lois and Clark's relationship.

But they don't seem to want to invest the time into a good story about it.

 

[sethcohen]

EXACTLY! i completely agree yenaled! thats why im so upset and dissappointed with this story arc and SR!

 

[CConn]

I wouldn't mind one bit if he has a son, I'd love Lois to go through pregnancy and to give birth to an actual son of Superman. It would be cool and would work with Lois and Clark's relationship.

But they don't seem to want to invest the time into a good story about it.

I think it more has to do with the (probable) fact this kid won't stick around past this arc. I mean, if it was Lois and Clark's biological child, he'd pretty much have to be in the mythos forever. But this kid could fall into a kryptonite well and nobody would care.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I wouldn't mind one bit if he has a son, I'd love Lois to go through pregnancy and to give birth to an actual son of Superman. It would be cool and would work with Lois and Clark's relationship.

But they don't seem to want to invest the time into a good story about it.

It's bound to happen eventually, Superman Returns pretty much set the foundation for Lois & Clark/Superman to have a superboy or supergirl of their own to take place in The comics eventually .