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So, The mighty odinson is back, with the first issue in almost 3 years now out in stores, what do you guys think so far?

"I for one liked the idea of Gods existing because man decides they should. That was one of my favorite ideas that was presented in the Earth X trilogy. The Asgardians are only as real as we believe they are. I like it better without the idea that they are all just aliens tricked by a fake Odin, but the idea that "faith" makes them stronger is an interesting one. I'm also excited about the return of the Donald Blake alter ego.
 
I wish more happened in this first issue but it was an alright set-up issue.

Too bad Oeming isn't on this...
 
I guess i was just starting a thread to discuss the new book. I didn't see that one was already there. Sorry, feel free to delete or merge this one.
 
I guess i was just starting a thread to discuss the new book. I didn't see that one was already there. Sorry, feel free to delete or merge this one.

I kinda like this thread more :D. The first issue was pretty kick ass i thought. I also liked the "With Faith Comes Strength" spin they are putting onto Thor. And I really liked how they made him come back in such an out of the way place. It gives Thor/Donald Blake alot more room for creation and imagination. I mean if it took place in New York...what could you really do?
 
I have always hated the faith = power idea for Thor. It works on gods like DC's Olympians because no one ever sees those guys. Thor is down on Earth, among the people, every day. If the notion that faith = power holds true, shouldn't Thor then be pretty much the most powerful being ever? The concept just doesn't work with a superhero god who's down among the mortals all the time.

Of course, that's not necessarily what Don Blake even meant. He could've just been referring to the idea that the gods were reborn in human forms, just as Thor was brought back to life through Blake, his own human avatar. Granted, I'm not really sure which of those possibilities is worse at this point. Neither of them strike me as all that great, though.
 
I did. First thing I did when I got home from work last night. It was slow and not very eventful, but that's how most of JMS' arcs start off, and I think it was the right approach to take for the first issue of a new series for a character who's not been seen or heard from in years. What did happen was mostly good. I like Don Blake more than any other mortal form Thor has had because I like medical dramas and I like the conceptual dichotomy it creates--Thor, the great destroyer of Asgard's enemies tied to Blake, the great healer. I was a bit confused as to why Blake had his own distinct personality, since anyone who's read Thor knows that Blake was nothing more than a human construct built to house Thor's essence while he learned humility; everything Blake was came from Thor, unlike Masterson, who was literally a separate person, or Olsen, who had an existing personality that Thor had to try and mimic when he continued his life. As I mentioned before, I'm iffy on the concept of man and god becoming more intertwined, since it usually just winds up making the gods look like unimpressive *****es instead of awe-inspiring deities. Also, it grates on me how writers patronize us by saying a character like Thor isn't "accessible" without a literal human side like Blake; anyone who says that a being can't be immensely powerful yet eminently human needs to read Gaiman's Sandman and take some notes. :o

Anyway, it was a bit boring but still a fairly promising setup. The thought that JMS will have all of the Asgardians have Blake-like human avatars isn't so galling if they're not going to be kids, as he and Millar initially planned, so I can actually kind of deal with it--just as long as the gods are still aware that they're gods and aren't just stupid humans in divine bodies. I'll wait out the first arc and see where JMS is taking things before I make any real judgments, though.

Technically, the issue was kind of hit-and-miss. JMS' narration swung rapidly from carrying an appropriate, mythic tone to droning on in repetitive nonsense. The "and then I... and then I... and then.. and then... and... then..." bit near the beginning was a prime example of the latter. But it was mostly okay, if not quite as awe-inspiring as JMS probably intended. The dialog was better. As I said, I don't know where this personality for Blake came from, but it's actually not so bad. He reminds me a little of Bruce Banner when Bruce wasn't so strung out and crazy from constantly being chased everywhere. He gives the impression that he's more intelligent than any human being has a right to be, but it's an easygoing sort of genius where he's really laid back and cool and maybe a little jaded due to all the things he's seen, as well. The art, as opposed to the writing, was spot-on 100% of the way through. To anyone who claims that Coipel draws a "fat" Thor, take a look at Thor fighting those demons at the beginning. The dude is not fat, he's just ****ing enormous, as he should be. I don't like how Coipel has Thor's hair so short, but other than that he nails Thor perfectly. The rugged face with squinty eyes and a terse, almost sour mouth perfectly suits Thor. In fact, the one area the art falters in for me is the costume, which I've never liked--I think the armor is a tacit implication that Thor's new, stronger connection to humanity has made him weak and feeble, no longer able to face the world with just his bare skin and basic cloth for protection. But I can get past the costume and still enjoy the art as a whole.

Oh, if there were any doubt that I'm a Thor fanboy, let me dispel it now: my main burning question after putting down the comic was not about the philosophical implications of the god/man divide or any narrative possibilities for future stories or anything like that. It was, "Now that Blake and the cane are back, does that mean the stupid 60-second rule is back, too?"
 
So, The mighty odinson is back, with the first issue in almost 3 years now out in stores, what do you guys think so far?

"I for one liked the idea of Gods existing because man decides they should. That was one of my favorite ideas that was presented in the Earth X trilogy. The Asgardians are only as real as we believe they are. I like it better without the idea that they are all just aliens tricked by a fake Odin, but the idea that "faith" makes them stronger is an interesting one. I'm also excited about the return of the Donald Blake alter ego.

i seem to remember a scene where a person trying to understand asgard compared the asgardians to "alens from another dimension" to which volstagg replied"in truth thou speakest aright" confirming the theory:ninja:
 
Oh, if there were any doubt that I'm a Thor fanboy, let me dispel it now: my main burning question after putting down the comic was not about the philosophical implications of the god/man divide or any narrative possibilities for future stories or anything like that. It was, "Now that Blake and the cane are back, does that mean the stupid 60-second rule is back, too?"

I hope not especially since he still has the Odin power and that is not tied with Mjollnir.
 
He certainly didn't seem to have the Odinpower when he was getting his ass kicked in oblivion. He reached out for Mjolnir as if his life depended on it. I know it's symbolic and all, but mostly it just screamed "*****" to me. Literally the second thing Thor does after waking up in oblivion is get his ass kicked. He talks to Blake, then he proceeds to get beat the **** down. Not the way I was hoping to be reintroduced to Thor, to be honest. :(
 
He certainly didn't seem to have the Odinpower when he was getting his ass kicked in oblivion. He reached out for Mjolnir as if his life depended on it. I know it's symbolic and all, but mostly it just screamed "*****" to me. Literally the second thing Thor does after waking up in oblivion is get his ass kicked. He talks to Blake, then he proceeds to get beat the **** down. Not the way I was hoping to be reintroduced to Thor, to be honest. :(

Hmm that does not make me happy. i am still waiting for my copy in the mail but I had thought they said he retainned the odinpower.
 
I don't know, he may have. But if he has, he seems to have either forgotten how to use it or deliberately handicapped himself. I saw no evidence that he still had the Odinpower in this issue. Of course, it's only the first issue of an ongoing series, so JMS may well prove me wrong next issue or the one after that.
 
I don't know, he may have. But if he has, he seems to have either forgotten how to use it or deliberately handicapped himself. I saw no evidence that he still had the Odinpower in this issue. Of course, it's only the first issue of an ongoing series, so JMS may well prove me wrong next issue or the one after that.

Dude, if you'd been sleeping for 3 years, you'd be a little stiff, too. ;)
 
Possibly. Truth be told, I'm kind of glad Thor's at least not back in full "Ragnarok" mode, actually. Sure, he was probably one of the most powerful beings ever with the addition of the Odinpower and rune magic, but Thor is a warrior, not a mage. I like seeing him smash Mjolnir into people's faces and stuff. I just wish he wouldn't get his ass kicked doing it.
 
I really hope he still has a little left over from Ragnarok. My fear is he ends up in WW Hulk and gets his ass whipped.
 
That would definitely suck. I still kind of want Thor and the Hulk to meet up, though, if only to see Korg's reaction and to see the Hulk curse and yell at "longhair" again. :)
 
I have always hated the faith = power idea for Thor. It works on gods like DC's Olympians because no one ever sees those guys. Thor is down on Earth, among the people, every day. If the notion that faith = power holds true, shouldn't Thor then be pretty much the most powerful being ever? The concept just doesn't work with a superhero god who's down among the mortals all the time.

Of course, that's not necessarily what Don Blake even meant. He could've just been referring to the idea that the gods were reborn in human forms, just as Thor was brought back to life through Blake, his own human avatar. Granted, I'm not really sure which of those possibilities is worse at this point. Neither of them strike me as all that great, though.


Galactus would **** everytime he even HEARD the name Thor.

But Heaven on high, I hope they're not doing the "gods in humans" idea again.
 
I'd prefer that over the "gods are powered by human faith" idea, myself.
 
Was that an Alex Ross invention, or did he just expand upon it?
 
What, you mean the thing from Earth X? I think he applied it to Thor and the Asgardians first. It's been a facet of DC's Olympians (the ones who hang with Wonder Woman) since at least the '80s, though. It was part of a big plan Ares had.
 
Yeah, Earth X was the first time I'd read anything remotley like that. I doubt that's where JMS is going, but I did see the similiarities.
 
I think JMS' wording is open to interpretation. The way I read it, he was implying that either the gods draw power from the belief of humans or the gods themselves were reborn in human bodies after Ragnarok, much the way Don Blake returned right after Ragnarok. Or, I guess, maybe both.
 
I think JMS' wording is open to interpretation. The way I read it, he was implying that either the gods draw power from the belief of humans or the gods themselves were reborn in human bodies after Ragnarok, much the way Don Blake returned right after Ragnarok. Or, I guess, maybe both.

I'd be less opposed to the latter.
 
Me, too. That would at least open up some interesting story possibilities, with the other gods finally understanding Thor rather than looking at his obligations to Midgard with contempt. The former one just makes the Asgardians a rehash of DC's Olympians and/or Earth X's Asgardians.
 

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