BvS The Official Zack Snyder Directs Everything Thread

[TheFlamingCoco]

“I’ve pored through the DC universe for a way to tell this thing.”

It sounds like Zack read a lot of comics for inspiration. This is a good thing

Also, I feel that WB had Ben cast, and that Zack's just "dealing with it."

"In the announcement, Silverman stated, “We knew we needed an extraordinary actor to take on one of DC Comics’ most enduringly popular Super Heroes, and Ben Affleck certainly fits that bill, and then some. His outstanding career is a testament to his talent and we know he and Zack will bring new dimension to the duality of this character.”

Notice how much more Greg Silverman talks about Affleck than Snyder does.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/warner-bros-pictures/ben-affleck-revealed-as-batman/656526234358932

 

[J.Howlett]

“I’ve pored through the DC universe for a way to tell this thing.”

It sounds like Zack read a lot of comics for inspiration. This is a good thing

Also, I feel that WB had Ben cast, and that Zack's just "dealing with it."

"In the announcement, Silverman stated, “We knew we needed an extraordinary actor to take on one of DC Comics’ most enduringly popular Super Heroes, and Ben Affleck certainly fits that bill, and then some. His outstanding career is a testament to his talent and we know he and Zack will bring new dimension to the duality of this character.”

Notice how much more Greg Silverman talks about Affleck than Snyder does.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/warner-bros-pictures/ben-affleck-revealed-as-batman/656526234358932

It doesn't really matter at this point anyway. WB was going to set up a cinematic universe, whether Snyder and Goyer wanted it or not.

The fact that both are still on board is a solid sign that they're okay with the "possible" mandates handed down by the studio.

Again, 2012 was the death of one-off's and trilogies for the genre. Man of Steel came out too late.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ I do think MOS would have been better received had Avengers not preceded it. Though the same could be said of pretty much every superhero film

 

[J.Howlett]

^ I do think MOS would have been better received had Avengers not preceded it. Though the same could be said of pretty much every superhero film

That film kind of screwed the genre in a way I'm not to happy about.

Still, I honestly don't think WB's going to do a cinematic universe in the way everyone is thinking.

I can see Superman vs. Batman, Justice League, Affleck solo Batman films, one Wonder Woman film, another solo Cavill Superman film and possibly one more Justice League film.

This is not going to be the expanded universe that Marvel's doing. WB has too many different avenues as a studio to generate revenue to concentrate solo on their DC properties.

I just don't see it anymore.

Snyder's only sticking around to do three of these films and then he's gone.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ Snyder being gone, funny enough, worries me. Unless the studio takes the property seriously a WORSE director will probably be hired.

 

[J.Howlett]

^ Snyder being gone, funny enough, worries me. Unless the studio takes the property seriously a WORSE director will probably be hired.

Snyder will finish some type of trilogy. Affleck will do his solo films. The question, who's out there that wants to develop a DC property for WB with an eye for directing?

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Outside of Kevin Smith..who knows?

I seriously think they should look toward the indie scene to try to find strong directors. And they should let the DCUOM/DCAU writers write the movies

 

[J.Howlett]

Why would Affleck do Batman films? He's got a pretty good future laid out in non-comic films already. Unless he's always wanted to do one, he doesn't really need to build confidence of a studio or what have you with a tentpole franchise.

From what Kevin Smith said on Twitter after his announcement, Affleck's a diehard Batman fan and he's wanted to do Batman for a while. It's the reason he did Daredevil (couldn't get his hands Batman...do a character that's somewhat similar).

Also, from a Affleck standpoint, WB probably gave Affleck the keys to the kingdom over at the lot. You do Batman for us, we'll finance as many "Argo's and Town's" as you want.

That's why Affleck probably signed on to this.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

My fear is that if Affleck just does Batman films, and weak/midtier directors do the other films, we'll once again feel a sense of nepotism for Batman. :/

 

[J.Howlett]

My fear is that if Affleck just does Batman films, and weak/midtier directors do the other films, we'll once again feel a sense of nepotism for Batman. :/

It's almost inevitable, I think. I will change my mind...depending on who they get to direct the solo Wonder Woman film if Gadot makes a great impression in this upcoming film.

Either, I can understand WB's position. They have a lot of avenues for tentpole films. And if Batman's their only viable/sure fire slam dunk comic book property, why not keep pumping out films? He's global now.

 

[J.Howlett]

It's the "one for you, one for me" side of the business that everyone talks about it.

If Affleck delivers viable Batman films for the studio, they won't say no to any project he brings before them because of how much money's he made them.

Like Nolan, they want to keep Affleck on the lot. To do that, that means financing films that might not make a profit for them, but are prestigious pet project for Affleck.

And yeah, Affleck wanted to play him. But because of his directing career, WB gets a two for one situation.

 

[J.Howlett]

Of course he doesn't "need" this but why did he take it, considering where he is in his career?

Clearly, I think, Affleck has things mapped with WB that completely benefit his career in a major way.

And again, I don't Kevin Smith was lying when he said that Affleck's want to play Batman in the past.

 

[BatLobster]

Well, if this means anything, I do recall an interview with Affleck years ago where he was asked if he'd ever be interested in directing a comic book film, and he said something along the lines of it being something that he'd love to tackle eventually but doesn't feel quite ready for at the moment.

If I were to guess, I think he's going to be sponging up a lot on the set of this movie and if he feels confident that he can pull it off, there's a good chance he'll give it a crack.

Just think of how much money he stands to make if he directed and starred in a Batman film...and that's leaving the fact that he's a longtime Batman fan out of the equation.

 

[BatLobster]

I think if Affleck got the gig directing Batman, he'd be able to do it on his own terms like Nolan did (IE making other films between Batman films).

 

[EssayM]

This is why I'm annoyed that DC is owned by Time-Warner and thus forced to use them for any movie adaptations. Yeah, Marvel is owned by Disney, but they also have their own studio that can focus solely on getting the right people and planning the MCU, whereas DC has to wait in line with all the other movies WB is making right now. That's probably why the Marvel movies are coming out faster and (mostly) better, whereas DC has to wait forever to get out anything that's not Batman or Superman related (and usually have it end up subpar anyway). I know why it happens, but it still frustrates me.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I would love to see the directors of The Lego Movie take on a Flash or Green Lantern movie.

 

[J.Howlett]

This is why I'm annoyed that DC is owned by Time-Warner and thus forced to use them for any movie adaptations. Yeah, Marvel is owned by Disney, but they also have their own studio that can focus solely on getting the right people and planning the MCU, whereas DC has to wait in line with all the other movies WB is making right now. That's probably why the Marvel movies are coming out faster and (mostly) better, whereas DC has to wait forever to get out anything that's not Batman or Superman related (and usually have it end up subpar anyway). I know why it happens, but it still frustrates me.

Never going to change with Batman and Superman making as much money as they do. If WB could get one more character to be as viable as them, that would be the nail in the coffin for any other DC characters hitting the big screen in my opinion.

 

[BatLobster]

I would agree if he weren't where he's currently at already. He's been a Hollywood star for quite some time, and now he's an accomplished director. He's basically on the road to being another Robert Redford or Clint Eastwood, even if he never had any comic movie involvement whatsoever. So artistically, there's a lot more to gain by following projects that speak to him moreso that way, and more importantly that he can have even greater control over. Financially it'd be hard to ignore...but seems he's doing rather well already, and again...he's already in more creative demand than a lot of directors who are making their name with franchises. He's already like Cauron after he did an HP film...heck he's already Cauron after Children Of Men...he doesn't need to do another HP. Affleck can go straight to his Gravity if he wants to.



Yeah, but he wouldn't have to bother with the Batman ones in between if he doesn't sign up. Pu it this way, he's in a position now to go purely with his heart. If he wants Batman, then great. If he'd rather do something else, then not doing Batman won't hurt that.

Well, sure I agree. He's in a position to turn it down if he doesn't want to do it. I just think he might want to do it.

And I also think actor's ego plays a factor here. I think he clings to the idea of being a leading man which is why so far all of his movies have been starring vehicles for him.

I think...IF this movie is a critical and financial success...the prospect of directing and starring in Batman movies will be one hell of a mighty proposition for him. Let's face it, Batman is pretty much the dream comic book property for most directors out there, it's his favorite character, on top of that he'd get to continue playing the character, being the face of WB's biggest franchise, and winning back credibility with the "fanboy" community that he himself is a part of.

If people thought Argo winning best picture was his "redemption", that would have nothing on all of the above. That would be having his cake and eating it too.

I think Affleck is a great director, but I'm not convinced that he has the heart of a "pure" filmmaker. I think his heart is still very much attached to being a big, leading man actor and that definitely had a lot to do with him taking the role of Batman in the first place. Directing the Batman movies would be his means of quality control.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

As long as strong independent minds are assigned to other movies, I'd be happy with Ben doing the batseries.

 

[BatLobster]

Oh, I do think he's very serious about directing, and obviously he's got a knack for it. But I also think he's at a stage in his career where he's taking both his acting career and directing career equally seriously.

 

[The Sage]

Of course he doesn't "need" this but why did he take it, considering where he is in his career?

Clearly, I think, Affleck has things mapped with WB that completely benefit his career in a major way.

And again, I don't Kevin Smith was lying when he said that Affleck's want to play Batman in the past.

Agreed. I think Affleck might end up directing Justice League and offering assistance in helping getting other DC projects launched afterwards, with his own connections to directors and writers. Plus WB will let him do his own projects. It's a win/win for both. And us. Good for business.

 

[BatLobster]

Like that movie with Timberlake?

More like that one with Fincher.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Agreed. I think Affleck might end up directing Justice League and offering assistance in helping getting other DC projects launched afterwards, with his own connections to directors and writers. Plus WB will let him do his own projects. It's a win/win for both. And us. Good for business.

That sounds like a good plan. Ben being the Rominov type character who assigns writers/directors for certain projects

 

[Marvin]

I would love to see the directors of The Lego Movie take on a Flash or Green Lantern movie.

You mean the 21 jump street guys?
All I've seen of them is quick and abundant comedy with some touching endings. Then I again I haven't seen the lego film but it looks like more of what I just described.

 

[The Question]

You mean the 21 jump street guys?
All I've seen of them is quick and abundant comedy with some touching endings. Then I again I haven't seen the lego film but it looks like more of what I just described.

The Flash seems like a strong candidate for quick and abundant comedy with a touching ending.


But seriously, if he weren't tied up with Ant Man I'd go for Edgar Wright. Get him and Simon Pegg to write it, too. A Flash film with roughly the same tone and style as Hot Fuzz would be perfect.