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Discussion in 'The Hype Archives' started by Lobo, Aug 19, 2008.
I really don't want Superman reduced to this...
You won't notice when his feet are in motion though.
Of course, who would want an academy award nominee bring new life and bring us a great performance, as well as a movie that made alot, alot of money, and a sequel.
Robert Downey is a great actor, and his performance was almost flawless. I understand that it may have been because he himself lived a very similiar life, with addictions and all, but I think it was a great performance, and he was lauded for it by many critics. The movie was a huge hit and has spawned a sequel, more than what SR can say. I happen to think his performance was better than anything, and anyone in the Batman movies, even Ledger.
Say what you want about Cavill, but he is hot at this moment, and he has been cast in a Woody Allen movie. Allen can be a creep in his personnal life, but he knows talent, from actors, directors of photography and others. Anyone want to list the Oscar winners from his films, of the top of my head, Woody himself, the DoP, Dianne Keaton, Dianne Wiest, Mira Sorvino, and Penelope Cruz, maybe others.
That he cast Cavill, then says alot. As for Singer, the only Oscar winner from his directing, Kevin Spacey, as some critics of the movie said, the movie only came alive after he took over the most scenes.
Oh my, I said something that some may disagree with, must make me a troll. Because you can't just disagree with people.
Understandable, but RDJ is 5'8"-5'9". If you cast a Superman actor who is 6'0"-6'2", thicker soled boots are all you would need. He wouldn't have to wear Go-Gos like RDJ.
And again, when the actor isn't being shot full-body, you won't see the boots. And when he is, you can use them.
Or are we concerned about how behind-the-scenes set photos will look?
Dude look like a lady from the waist down.
He's got a ass.
I'm well aware of that. And proud of it.
Ouch! Me neither. That pic looks so wrong..
Just imagine the jokes if the next Supes actor is a really short guy. Not good. That's one of the reasons why Dean Cain sucked as Supes, imo.
IMO, the actor playing Superman should be one of if not the tallest man in the room On and Off the screen. He has to be the whole package: the right look, solid acting and the right personality.
It could be fake as well. t:
I hope so becuase I hurried up and scrolled down the page before I seen his picture then as I was scroling up I thought things about RDJ. Naughty things....
Ok, so I might get flammed for this but here it goes:
My friend, my brother, and I were talking about if they were to do a complete reboot of Superman, and make it darker (as has been rumored from what I know), how would we want him to be portrayed? What would we want him to look like?
We all agreed that he should be older. Somewhere in his 30s or early 40s even, maybe looking a bit like Earth-2 Superman.
So who could play Superman like that? Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
He has the capability to play Superman as a badass as well as having a very human side to him.
Probably not the most popular envisioning but that's how I picture it.
No its just doesn't work Superman should 25-30 max either he just gotten out of college or traveling the world.
oh to make it darker just Pa or Ma kent die in the film by the big bad to make superman a angry god.
Haha, that's a very clever veiled insult. I give you credit for that one. That's like something I would have come up with, haha.
No, I just believe in Henry Cavill... and my writing probably appears passionate and, well, lucid because I don't misspell every other word and write "like" and "f**k" and "pwned." And I do passionately believe that Henry Cavill was born to play Superman. All of those out there who don't think so, if he ever gets the part, you'll see. I see Superman in him as clear as the daylight. I saw The Joker in Heath Ledger before he played the part, when so many were saying "Oh my God, Nolan ruined The Joker, Ledger is just a pretty boy," I was saying, "No, he'll be the greatest Joker ever," and I was right. I was right about Ledger and I'm right about Cavill. And I hope you see one day.
Also, it's not a coincidence that there are many people on this board who say that Routh is stiff, that he's wooden and doesn't display proper emotion and says his lines like he's reading off a cue card. It's because that's true. Out of everyone on this board, it's the people who back Henry Cavill who are backing the guy who actually has the talent, the guy who actually deserves the praise that he's given, not just because we want more sh**ty watered-down Superman right away, but because we want a quality Superman movie with an actor who can actually act and with a plot that doesn't involve a growing island. It's those who passionately praise Brandon Routh, this obviously below-average actor, who appear like they have some personal stake in his success, who appear as though they have no perception of acting ability, screen presence, nor quality filmmaking. I love Superman. I LOVE Superman... and guess what? I fell asleep in Superman Returns. That's actually true. That movie couldn't even entertain a die-hard Superman fan. So, actually, your comment has created a new theory of mine. This board is full of Routh's mother, father, uncle, brother, wife, ex-girlfriend, butcher, bookie, valet parker, his personal chef, his dry cleaner. They're all his buddies and they're on this board making it look like he has fans.
Frankly, I don't get all vemon directed at Routh, he was directed by Singer, he acted the way Singer and the script wanted him to. Granted, he was little stiff in the beginning but by the end when he spoke Jor-El's words, the scene packed a punch, and thats from someone who doesn't like the kid idea!!
Plain and simple, if it was a different story, we would have got a different Superman from Routh, the blame is all on Singer!
If Henry Cavill was born to be Superman isn't he British? Will that mean he comes from Yorkshire (or some other farming comunity) then?
Any more pictures by the way?
I totally agree. Considering there was this big hoo haa over the Casino Royale "reboot" and with Daniel Craig arriving to give Bond a harder image, the fact that Judi Dench remained in her same character, and nobody gave a toss is encouraging for other movies.
People who watched Casino Royale didn't give a damn that Judi Dench was still M.
According to people's thinking on here, because Casino Royale was a reboot or restart, then that means Judi Dench should not have been anywhere near the franchise anymore in order to make a "clean" start.
Not only that, David Arnold, the composer of the last few Bond movies continued on with the reboot, even though according to some people here, a reboot means new everything, new cast, new music etc.
If they were that bothered, they would have dumped Judi Dench straight away, but they didn't.
It doesn't matter whether Routh is in the reboot or not. The general public will come and watch regardless of who is in the lead role.
That said, the idiots at WB have failed miserably at coming up with new suggestions for Superman castings.
Don't blame Routh for Superman Returns, blame Singer.
its not his fault he was given those lines to do, and that script.
And anyways, time is ticking, and nobody has come up with a suggestion good enough to replace Routh, ie someone tall enough, superman face, etc
Cavill has been a shout, but WB might not take a risk on a Brit for their flagship franchise.
I don't think it matters if Cavill is a Brit or not.
I couldn't have said it better myself. You & I share a vision of Cavill as Superman, and I, too, knew that Heath would be great as the Joker. Your post sounds like it could have been plucked from my very own mind.
This is a common excuse that makes its rounds on the boards. Yes, it's all Singer's fault. And the screenwriters' fault. Couldn't possibly be Routh. No, no. Singer singlehandedly suppressed and stifled the greatness that is Routh's acting because he's a crap director. I'm sure we'd all love to believe that Routh delivered a mindblowing performance, but then Singer said, "Cut! You know what, Brandon? That was ok, but I'd rather you deliver your lines like a plank of wood. You should come off as still and dull, ok? Let's try it that way. I'm sure it'll be better, because after all, I AM a director." Please.
Its called "acting." Henry is an actor.
And what's up with you constantly asking people to post pictures? It's called Google Image Search - look into it.
I actually thought Routh acting got much better during the film at first he was stiff but then got into it and made it into his own.
WB will be walking on eggshells with the next Superman movie, it may upset people if they decided on a non American in the role, as they did when they ditched the American way.
Personally, It wouldnt matter to me if the actor playing Supes were American or not. Bale wasnt and that worked out pretty well.
As of this moment, I still think Routh has the best shot of getting it tho. we shall see.
Boo Hoo!!. American's need to look at whats best for the character not whether he's american or not. You got Heath as the Joker & he was an aussie = The Bizz-nitch. You got Hugh Jackman as Wolverine & he was the Bizz-nitch, also an Aussie. You got Bale as Batman, British, also the Bizz-nitch. You got American's playing Punisher & Daredevil & catwoman & Ghostrider & what do you get?. You get average movies with miscast actors. pls don't discredit actors cause thier not American, it's wrong & the stats are against you.
I don't think the 'American Way' tag pissed of anyone other than a handful of American fans..
I don't care for it, the 'American Way' doesn't sound very Superman like to me.. for example if he was fighting for the American Way does that mean we will get a scene with Superman raiding out sand bunkers in Iraq with his heat vision t:
Superman can't be shown to have any bias to any 1 nation, it puts the character in a bad corner if 2 countrys are at war. Truth & Justice are fine IMO
As for a Brit like Cavill being cast, it wouldn't really matter so long as he didn't have a thick British accent.
I'm surprised people are taking this comment so seriously. It was clearly a joke.