Discussion in 'Sports' started by Thread Manager, Dec 1, 2012.
God dammit Pepe.
I know someone will argue that it happens with a lot of top clubs but it always seems like other teams hand City results at the Etihad.
Liverpool should have taken all 3 points, fantastic strikes from Sturridge and Gerrard, but Agger and Reina were to blame for the goals they conceded even though they were well taken by Dzeko and Aguero.
No doubt the first goal should have been pulled up for the foul on Dzeko, but no way Liverpool should have kicked the ball out when he clearly wasn't hurt, he was just sitting on his arse moaning instead of getting up and chasing back to help his team.
Bellamy said Liverpool had arrived after the last two games, but for me Liverpool have played well against the other big teams for the last 2 seasons, the problem is slipping up against the lower half teams, it's the bread and butter that puts you in contention for the league and they need to get that sorted out.
I would have taken 2 points from Arsenal and City anyway, would never have imagined though that we'd throw wins away in both games.
I have nothing against Brendan Rodgers and was happy that a top team went for a young Brit manager, but some of the accolades he has got from pundits this year seem OTT. Bellamy and old GQ were saying how well he's managed Downing, but it's only a few months ago Rodgers was trying desperately to force him out the club, Henderson hardly got a look in. Sturridge apart his signings have been suspect (not a Joe Allen fan at all).
People talk about this passing football they play, but under Kenny they were hardly a longball side, I remember against Arsenal at home last season they put in a performance I haven't really seen matched since.
I dunno if I'm being overly harsh but with Dalglishs signings becoming a bigger
presence in the side after a settling in period and the emergence of Sterling, it just seems like it's been right place, right time rather than Rodgers genius. I honestly don't think if Kenny was still manager they'd be any worse off.
*puts on tin hat and awaits Spideys barrage!*
Newcastle still have a few more first team English players but half of them a rubbish.
I prefer quality of over quantity t:
once again I feel we could easily have won a game, so im frustrated but theres been some great positivesnfrom the last 2 games as we have shown that we can play better football (IMO) than arse and citeh, IMO we lost both games due to lapse in concentration, the signs are good though
and I say it week in week out but ladies and gentleman can I start saying "I told you so" about Hendo yet?
*Crawls in and collapses on the floor*
Still Alive folks...blasted computers hate me...
Great to see that not only we're making a bit of ground between us and City, but that Rooney is getting back to his better form.
Also congratulations to Joey Barton for his first Ligue 1 red card.
I approve of this event
Dark day for soccer
380 matches suspect in European Fixing Probe
not surprised in the slightest if I am honest
I don't imagine it is due to how it actually happened (plus dudeks amazing save) but if Milan threw 05 it will be one of the most upsetting things ever
EDIT: last 3-4 years we're in the clear, now to sit back with the popcorn
I think Liverpool deserved to win. Actually it was very similar to that game against Dortmund. They were pressing our midfield high with good intensity and had pacy players upfront. But we don't press, we have no width, no pace, no mobility... Again and again. I think it's over for City and hopefully they'll show some better performances in FA Cup. However the scary thing is Mancini didn't learn anything so if he'll stay we could see similar failure in CL next season.
Damn, how do they get away with it when all these games are recorded and kept like permanently.
I never thought Milan threw that one. They simply thought they'd already won it with the 1st half (they were allegedly already celebrating in their dressing room at half time iirc) and didn't have their heads in the game for the 2nd.
And this match fixing involves officials as much as it does players....(thinks back to Orviebo somehow missing 3 stonewall penalties Chelsea had a few years back, lol).
Remains to be seen if any English teams and/or officials are named and shamed, but I'd certainly take a good look at Chris Foy's finances if I were them (conspicuous amount of 'upsets' when he is in charge, usually with controversial decisions in favor of the underdogs).
I'd think it naive at best to beleive these syndicates have not infiltrated the English league as well, just remains a question of how much and who have they got to?
Hmmm I'm trying to think of a manager, who not only has been in the CL in the last 4 years, but also has a history of dodgy dealings...... I'm really stuck on this one
papers are claiming it actually is one of our matches where the opposition keeper was told to let in 3 but we only scored once.... and it was a rebound from a save.... makes us sound ****! haha seriously though I dont know if it is speculation that it is that match cos we had 7 shots on target, he could have easily fumbled 3 goals
To be honest, the only game I can think of is the Chelsea Barcalona CL game...but maybe that's too obvious to be the game...
If the syndicates are smart they'd avoid high profile games like the plague. A lot easier to get away with this stunt for matches where the spotlight aint so bright.
Having said that the investigation has caught them out, and a good number of the players & officials involved, so maybe they aint so smart.
Regarding Chelsea's infamous game with Barcelona playing volleyball for fun...I think that ref was just incompetent. They still needed a late injury time stunner to win them that game after all (if the ref was on the take he'd have gifted them a penalty or 2 to make sure they got the win, rather than just deny us a few stonewall penalty claims and hope they got something in the net as late as they did).
Which game was it that Chelsea had 4 penalties turned down and Ballack was going crazy. Chelsea Bayern?
Also that ref who sent off Van Persie 0.1 seconds after he kicked the ball for timewasting (against guess who..) would be a good place to start (& if he's innocent then you fire him).
I think the issue is that with lower profile games the unusual amounts of money involved would itself attract suspicion while it wouldn't necessarily be a big deal for worldwide gambling on a major match.
I think theres probably plenty they havent even got the feintest whisper of