Yeah, Vieiria and Pires are long gone, football fans need to stop being like Canadian wrestling fans, stuck in 97 lol. I can't see us really challenging, our CM is too weak, I agree that Chelsea are still the favourites as I think Mourinho has the edge and the deep squad needed, but no one team is looking like dominating to me, all have weaknesses. I get what you mean, individually both Koscielny and Vermaelen have had great games for Arsenal but don't compliment each other, meaning Vermaelen is now better suited as Koscielny's back up these days. I agree with you on Mertersacker, I thought he was too slow, especially for the PL, when Wenger bought him, but his experience and the old "extra yard in his head" aspect make up for it and then some. Is everyone healthy now are or they missing the International's? Not to the under 20's mate, you're "Leeds? who's that?" I kid I kid!!! How's this season going so far?